Do people interested in BDSM have higher IQ’s?

[Jin]

I have yet to find a professional study that has been done with this subject but if you know of one please post the link. My theory (or someone else’s theory if there has already been a study on it) is that people interested in BDSM or role-playing have a higher IQ that the “average” sex life. I think this because the average “sex” life is mostly physical while BDSM or role-playing has more of a mental process in it. People with higher IQ’s desire a more mental sexual life or fantasy. At least that’s my reasoning. Oh and as for GPA being an indicator of intelligence GPA is more of an indicator of how hard you try, except for the fact that some people can get 4.0 without even trying but even then those people might have a high IQ in just one type of field. But anyway I would rather have an employee with a high GPA then IQ any day.
Rules:
Please do not answer if you are no interested in BDSM
Please do not vote if you have never taken an official IQ test
You may vote even if our IQ test was taken a long time ago

[Isabelle90]

My last IQ test was in high school. Does that still count?

[gagged_Louise]

Not sure of any kind of general answer, but at the very least I think you have to break through a barrier of "how you're supposed to be living". It does take courage and commitment to be into this, and openmindedness, as well.

I don't doubt my own intelligence though - or that of many others here...

[blythe spirit]

I am not at all confident that IQ scores can measure a person's intelligence accurately. When I last tested I was 10 and the score indicated that I was gifted; however, if I tested again and scored the intelligence level of a 15 year old, as I did when I was 10, then I'd be a moron. As an aside, some people think I am a moron. *giggles.

[His_blizzard]

I am not at all confident that IQ scores can measure a person's intelligence accurately. When I last tested I was 10 and the score indicated that I was gifted; however, if I tested again and scored the intelligence level of a 15 year old, as I did when I was 10, then I'd be a moron. As an aside, some people think I am a moron. *giggles.

My younger son simply cannot take standardized tests, (he usually scores in the "lower percentile") and yet he is an honor student at a university, speaks italian fluently, can translate ancient italian texts to english, is a computer wiz and and tutors anatomy and physiology at his school. He also plays many instruments and can read and write music. Need I say more...... ?
But I digress. IQ scores aside, I have found that the Dominants and submissives that I have met and who I consider to have a true and realistic D/s soul are intelligent, well spoken and have a great sense of humor. Just that the Doms can't seem to spell worth a shit. ROFLOL! LOL Just my copper tarn worth, ~blizz~

[jeanne]

Just that the Doms can't seem to spell worth a shit. ROFLOL!

OMG! It's absolutely true. My theory why: Their brains are so busy that their fingers just can't keep up. :rolleyes:

And let's not even mention the punctuation...

[gagged_Louise]

*gg* It does seem sometimes that subs are much better at writing and discussing, maybe 'cause we have to explain things to ourselves, and sometimes you even have to encourage your husband to get onto the road *winks at Jeanne* Not putting down Doms as a class, of course...

[Playfulsub]

I'll answer yes, but with a qualifier. I don't necessarily think IQ tests alone are an accurate gauge of a person's intelligence. Some people, including myself, do not test well. That said, I graduated with a 3.85, and left graduate school with a 4.0. If I had a choice to write a paper or take an exam, I always opted for the paper.

So far, my experience with those interested in bdsm are highly intelligent and well-spoken individuals. I also find many excellent writers among the bdsm crowd. I think you might be onto something with the fact that bdsm has more of a mental element to it than pure physical sex.

[Sir_Russell]

Maybe it is just me and my low IQ but where the hell are the rules

[cadence]

I don't know about that to be honest.
I hate saying people who have high IQ's are more inclined to lean towards BDSM.
I would rather use the terms imaginitive and artistic.
I can't write well, I am not good at the art of debate, and seldom do I pay attention to real world events.
I have music though, and I consider myself to be artistically inclined.
To be honest, I would be worried about taking a IQ test and find out how low my score would be.
Would I have to switch from submissive to Domme? :eek:

[Logic1]

I have done 2 different "standardized" IQ tests and ended up with 115 and 125 but that was about 5 years ago and I dont really think those tests really tell anything about intelligence.
I would agree with cadence that imaginative and artistic are those that have an inclination for BDSM rather than intelligent.
no I am not gonna answer the poll.

[Ozme52]

Just that the Doms can't seem to spell worth a shit. ROFLOL! LOL Just my copper tarn worth, ~blizz~

Oh look! A literary reference.... :rolleyes:


OMG! It's absolutely true. My theory why: Their brains are so busy that their fingers just can't keep up. :rolleyes:

And let's not even mention the punctuation...


*gg* It does seem sometimes that subs are much better at writing and discussing, maybe 'cause we have to explain things to ourselves, and sometimes you even have to encourage your husband to get onto the road *winks at Jeanne* Not putting down Doms as a class, of course...



To be honest, I would be worried about taking a IQ test and find out how low my score would be.
Would I have to switch from submissive to Domme? :eek:

I hope we're all amused with ourselves. :rolleyes:

If we're all finished teasing the poor dom/mes, perhaps you can all line up, bend over, and show how good you are at counting too. :hubba:

[Ozme52]

The problem with IQ tests is they're standardized to be taken at a young age. So if you "score" 100 at age six, and thereby get a quotient of 150, the same exact results at age 25 might get you a score of 105... or maybe even less that 100, depending on how your age is calibrated into the scoring.

I "lost" nearly 30 points over the last 47 years. LOL. No worries... It was all due to the age adjustment.... well, I think so. LOL

So jin, do you want the original score from when I was first tested in grade school or the new score? (Actually the new one was indeed an internet test so I guess it doesn't count... I'll put in the original score. GASP!!)

[Tufty]

Do people interested in BDSM have higher IQ’s?

I'm sorry, I don't understand the question...

[cadence]

^LOL^

[Jin]

I don't know about that to be honest.
I hate saying people who have high IQ's are more inclined to lean towards BDSM.
I would rather use the terms imaginitive and artistic.


Good idea, I know there is a test that measures creativity somewhere, but I’m guessing most people would have rarely taken it. I think there is something in one of my psychology books about high IQ being related to creativity. I’ll look that up. Oh and I also think people interested in BDSM might be related to “sensation seeking” people. I have a paper with the test on it so I might post that eventually if someone else hasn’t.

[jeanne]

I hope we're all amused with ourselves. :rolleyes:

If we're all finished teasing the poor dom/mes, perhaps you can all line up, bend over, and show how good you are at counting too. :hubba:

Oh dear. Note to self: teasing Doms about their spelling and punctuation = bad. :eek:

But - how can I resist such an easy target?! :rolleyes:

*and now I'm really in trouble*

[Qmoq]

Good question, I think. There's a comedian and social thinker in Britain who suggested that more intelligent people are more likely to be openly gay because a thick person wouldn't think that such options are available. I won't say if I agree with him or not, but I see his point.

However, I think the above test is a bit flawed. Those with low IQs are less likely to want to read stories, hence they wouldn't come to this site. Plus... my IQ is up around 145-155, but in most online tests it comes out at around 135 because the test doesn't go to the very highest levels.

Finally, if my IQ was 90, I wouldn't put my score down - I'd inflate it by 20 points or not bother!

Q x

[His_blizzard]

I hope we're all amused with ourselves. :rolleyes:

If we're all finished teasing the poor dom/mes, perhaps you can all line up, bend over, and show how good you are at counting too. :hubba:

Opps...sorry Sir. My bad. ***giggles*** :cool:
But oh, how I would love be be doing a little counting with my Master right about now.

[Playfulsub]

I hope we're all amused with ourselves. :rolleyes:

If we're all finished teasing the poor dom/mes, perhaps you can all line up, bend over, and show how good you are at counting too. :hubba:

I would, but I suck at math and I'd probably lose count. :d

[jeanne]

I would, but I suck at math and I'd probably lose count. :d

Oh - you don't want to lose count, Playful. Then you have to start over. Not good. :eek:

[gloombunny]

Sooner or later every subculture or niche hobby gets around to deciding that its members must be smarter or cooler than everyone else. I don't buy it.

[cadence]

I hope we're all amused with ourselves. :rolleyes:

If we're all finished teasing the poor dom/mes, perhaps you can all line up, bend over, and show how good you are at counting too. :hubba:

I might be artistically creative, but I truly suck at math, therefore I do not see a red arse in my forseeable future!

[TomStraye]

I normally run off the scale at 195+ but I've found it really depends on my mood and the test environment. I do best sitting in a bar with a beer in one hand and a cigarette in the other, but that's probably just from being an ex-journalist and spending most of my life living in pubs around Fleet Street, of which there used to be a great many!

My last official (MENSA) test, however, I only got 141-150, so that's what I ticked for this poll. I could make the excuse that I hate exam rooms, hadn't slept for 36 hours, hadn't eaten for 18 hours and was sloppy drunk at the time having just sent a newspaper to press but ...Well, mostly I just got bored and the invitatation I hod to help a bunch of newly qualified doctors celebrate in the pub just across the road was so much more appealing.

I mention that because, being bored and in need of a drink and a cigarette, I just killed the last two sections of the IQ test ticking off boxes at random. I think that's when I lost faith in IQ testing as a science. I scored higher that way than when I was trying. *L*

[Jin]

Good question, I think. There's a comedian and social thinker in Britain who suggested that more intelligent people are more likely to be openly gay because a thick person wouldn't think that such options are available. I won't say if I agree with him or not, but I see his point.

However, I think the above test is a bit flawed. Those with low IQs are less likely to want to read stories, hence they wouldn't come to this site. Plus... my IQ is up around 145-155, but in most online tests it comes out at around 135 because the test doesn't go to the very highest levels.

Finally, if my IQ was 90, I wouldn't put my score down - I'd inflate it by 20 points or not bother!

Q x

I know. >.< This hardly makes for a professionally done psychological survey... :28: But I figured since I'm going to major in psychology I should try and organize some amateur "experiments" myself, and am kind of curious anyway.

[snowflake]

It has been a very long time fr me since i did the IQ test.. and i was at 125.. but i doubt i am that now..

I think Candice had it right .. it is not so much how intellegent you are.. but more how creative and artistic..

To be honest i feel you have to be able to dream a little before you can expeirence a good BDSM scenerio... whether it be in Real Life or on the net...

I think ones that are extremely intelligent .. may know what is written in a book .. but they forget how to dream in most cases... They are more into realistic thoughts then into imaginative.. and can not allow their bodies or emotions soar..

As far as the Dom/mes spelling areas, and their bad punctuations.. It is because they get lost in the thoughts and their subs, and forget to check spelling.. hehehehe i know even do that.. lol... {tries to get in good with the Dom/mes}

As for math.. giggles i had a grade of 91% .. hmmm funny how i forget at times how to count.. especially when over ones lap... Blushes

But back to the IQ test...that is my opinion... Take it or leave it.. it is up to you..

hugs
snowflake

[Torq]

Absolutely !!!

T

[Isabelle90]

I'll answer yes, but with a qualifier. I don't necessarily think IQ tests alone are an accurate gauge of a person's intelligence. Some people, including myself, do not test well. That said, I graduated with a 3.85, and left graduate school with a 4.0. If I had a choice to write a paper or take an exam, I always opted for the paper.

So far, my experience with those interested in bdsm are highly intelligent and well-spoken individuals. I also find many excellent writers among the bdsm crowd. I think you might be onto something with the fact that bdsm has more of a mental element to it than pure physical sex.

Playful, I agree with you 100%! IQ tests alone are not accurate. IMO, written tests cannot possibly indicate one's true capacity to learn. There are those in my profession that would disagree, but they would be wrong. LOL

I, too, have come across several individuals in this lifestyle that are extremely articulate and well-versed in not only BDSM, but many other subjects as well.


I have done 2 different "standardized" IQ tests and ended up with 115 and 125 but that was about 5 years ago and I dont really think those tests really tell anything about intelligence.
I would agree with cadence that imaginative and artistic are those that have an inclination for BDSM rather than intelligent.
no I am not gonna answer the poll.

Imagination, creativity, and artistic abilities are intelligences that cannot be measured with a written test, but do indeed account for an intelligent person. Anyone can read books and commit words to memory. It's the application that is difficult. That requires an imaginative and creative brain. Applying that knowledge into life takes wisdom. (For everything else, there's MasterCard. LOL)

**Umm, I'm really hoping that a sense of humor means I'm a smarty and not just a smarty pants!

[ThisYouWillDo]

I thought I queue tests were to see how long people would stay in line ...

and it's a close call between the Russians in a food line and the Brits waiting for a bus.

Seems to me IQ tests just show your ability to answer particular questions at the time of testing. But that's all any kind of exam or test can do. It's an indication only. I suspect it's as good a measure as anything.

The only IQ tests I've done are on the internet. I know I did well, because they told me I was a genius and wanted me to spend $50 on a full report. I declined.

I don't know my score, so I didn't vote, but the debates here are more fun than in other places.

[Ozme52]

Oh - you don't want to lose count, Playful. Then you have to start over. Not good. :eek:


It's no skin off of my paddle if I have to start over... :rolleyes:

[Ozme52]

I thought I queue tests were to see how long people would stay in line ...

and it's a close call between the Russians in a food line and the Brits waiting for a bus.

Seems to me IQ tests just show your ability to answer particular questions at the time of testing. But that's all any kind of exam or test can do. It's an indication only. I suspect it's as good a measure as anything.

The only IQ tests I've done are on the internet. I know I did well, because they told me I was a genius and wanted me to spend $50 on a full report. I declined.

I don't know my score, so I didn't vote, but the debates here are more fun than in other places.

Yep. :cool:

[Polaris]

Can't we just establish that we are smarter, better and cooler than all the rest? :) I agree that IQ tests are a insufficient means to measure ones intelligence...especially as there are so many different types of intelligence that those tests completely ignore (emotional or social intelligence, for example). It strikes me, however, that BDSM people seem to be rather well educated, smart and in general thinking and reflecting a lot...I do believe that there is some kind of connection between intelligence (in its widest sense) and an inclination towards BDSM...but that might just be my vanity ;)

[jeanne]

Can't we just establish that we are smarter, better and cooler than all the rest? :)

Yep! :rolleyes:

[Ozme52]

Yep! :rolleyes:

Not mocking me are you jeanne? :eek: :icon176:

[jeanne]

Not mocking me are you jeanne? :eek: :icon176:

Um...no. I didn't realize until you pointed it out...

Although, if I were, I'd probably do something like this:

:eek: :icon176:

I know. I'm bad. That was just too easy. :)

[ThisYouWillDo]

I guess, whether we are more intelligent than average, average, or below average, we understand ourselves and what makes us tick a bit better than those who have never had to think about it.

[Guest 91108]

I don't buy that intelligence is involved.
I've seen some Doms and some subs make some pretty unintelligent moves, big mistakes in judgement; Not very good for showing their intelligence level.
The artistic and creative idea seems logical though.
I think it's more of a taste as in what one likes.
and I think the use of the term "Lifestyle" is so overused and overrated.
How many lifestyles can one have? chuckles.
spiritual lifestyle. BDSM lifestyle, Gorean Lifestyle, laidbackkissmyass lifestyle, my Dark lifestyle on and on....

[Logic1]

Imagination, creativity, and artistic abilities are intelligences that cannot be measured with a written test, but do indeed account for an intelligent person. Anyone can read books and commit words to memory. It's the application that is difficult. That requires an imaginative and creative brain. Applying that knowledge into life takes wisdom. (For everything else, there's MasterCard. LOL)

**Umm, I'm really hoping that a sense of humor means I'm a smarty and not just a smarty pants!

I think you wrote what I meant but mine came out wrong somehow.
IQ tests shows how good you are at answering a particular type of questions in a particular way and I dont normally do well under those circumstances.

I am not that interested in knowing how intelligent I am either cause I know that I am smart enough. Guess that is down to self confidence though.

[alpha_Straye]

sorry i wasnt done writing yet. i was trying to preveiw, not post. oops! see below.....

[alpha_Straye]

i hope this wont sound bad somehow but looking at this general conversation as a whole... looking at all the thought that went into these answers (or more likely was done long before), people taking into account the human want to be the best of the best, etc, adding that into the equasion to come up with a balanced answer before saying anything.. *L*.. ask this question at a website for vanillas and see what kind of answers you get *smile*. i think this answers the question on it's own.

i seem to recall there has been a study done and it found that BDSM people are often smarter than average. which makes perfect sense to me- BDSM/DS is about the mind. gotta have one in order to enjoy stimulating it.

i do agree about people tending to want to prove their niche is the best and the coolest, etc, but wanting to believe it doesnt change what is or isnt true. the tendancy to slant that way doesnt make it false. i think our lot is smarter as a whole (though that's gone down a bit as we've become more main stream). but then who says being the smartest is the same as being the best? there are quirks and disadvantages that can come with being smarter than most. and to be smarter than the average person is not to say that the average person is worse or stupid or perhaps even superior in some other way.

anyways, my disability is not in my intelligence but my good days and bad days effect the overall functionality of my brain as an organ... so where that leaves me on a given day IQ wise is anybody's guess *wry smile*. ive had a whole range of test scores, most of them unofficial. i was mildly horrified to get 100 once, but i was very unwell that day *L*. on my most recent casual one i think i got 129. ive not had the proper administered by the shrink sort that i recall (i have memory problems so who knows. maybe when i was a kid?) but i did take a test that was purchased and i believe that was the same test as the written part of official one it just didnt count without the official to give it. i got a 140 on that one. i got a 160 on one once, which i think was the official one too but i cant remember the circumstances for that one, so... *shrug*.

so im not sure how to answer the poll in that case as mine werent given by mensa or a shrink which i believe are the only fully official ones so... pass, but theres my ramblings anyways *Smile*

[Stone]

Well us doms could spell if we fucking cared about it go on waste time learning how to spell correctly i will be busy work on my flogging,caning,spanking,clamping,humilation,and torture techniques

[Bragi]

An interesting question to say the least...

Being as I have an honorary degree of ThD (Doctor of Thinkology) from the Universitartus Committiartum E Pluribus Unum

Let me think....e = mc squared...The sum of the square roots of any two sides of an isosceles triangle is equal to the square root of the remaining side...rate times time = distance...1 inch = 2.54 centimeters...divide by pi...OK, I think I got it now

After I split a few atoms and speed read War & Peace (What is it Good for? Absolutely Nothing) THEN break for lunch, I will have some free time to do the poll....~lol~

OK, does it matter? As long as there are hot little slaves and sluts crawling to Me...I am a happy Dom, so the fact I have an IQ roughly equal to Shaq's shoe size doesn't really bother Me.

But seriously (or ah, but I digress), love the question and the comments members have made...good job!

[snowflake]

Man Bragi.. you could run for gorvernment and win...!!!

You have the lets talk people around in circles til theya re totally confuse on the off topic lingo and then say one thing nice in the middle and one at the end to makes us all belive we are right.... hehehehehheeh

Or the talent of a Dom who wants you to count of each spanking and thank you for it .. but find other things to do and talk about so we lose track... giggle

Joking with ya hun...

But you are right there are some pretty good replies in this post.. and the point is being made you do have to be smart to be good at BDSM...

Writes down never let Bragi get you too count out your spanks .. you are sure to lose count..

smile
hugs
snow

[Bragi]

Man Bragi.. you could run for gorvernment and win...!!!

You have the lets talk people around in circles til theya re totally confuse on the off topic lingo and then say one thing nice in the middle and one at the end to makes us all belive we are right.... hehehehehheeh

Or the talent of a Dom who wants you to count of each spanking and thank you for it .. but find other things to do and talk about so we lose track... giggle

Joking with ya hun...

But you are right there are some pretty good replies in this post.. and the point is being made you do have to be smart to be good at BDSM...

Writes down never let Bragi get you too count out your spanks .. you are sure to lose count..

smile
hugs
snow

I think I love you...

and don't you worry, if you lose count of the number of times My hand firmly lands on your sexy ass cheeks, I am a genius with figures...especially figures like 40DD-24-36 and 36-24-34 and and measuring by the mouthful and converting inches to centimeters (makes My 2" cock sound much bigger when I answer "a little over 5" to the "how big is your cock" question)...so I will be certain to keep an accurate count for each SMACK...it is a simple equation

total smacks = the number of heart beats per minute divided by the number erotic moans times the square root of the number of desperate whimpers divided by pi multiplied by the number of droplets of juice seeping from swollen wet pussy lips and trickling down the inner thighs...

so snowy, sit back...relax...and enjoy the ride...I got ya covered

[snowflake]

Blushes Sir how kind of you to hsve that all sorted out in preparation for me...

Feeles so special {scratches her head wondering how many that actually is}

i am sitting back and waiting Sir...giggles

hugs
snowflake

[Logic1]

lol
Love your calculations Bragi :)

[snowflake]

lol
Love your calculations Bragi :)

giggles it kind of concern me .. do i or do i not moan.. ??

[Iron_Lynx]

Well, I just took a couple online for the sake of this survey....
They seem consistant with the ones I took in high school.