Queer, Kinky, Proud.

[WyldWyl]

Being the manifesto of a young man who fills all three of the above categories. I put it here because I intended it to be a discussion starter and I thought it would see more traffic here. If a mod thinks it needs to be moved back to non-erotic prose, then they should feel free. Anyway, enjoy.

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Yes, I am queer. And yes, I am kinky. Fantasies of pain, domination, restraint, cocksucking and arse-fucking fill my mind frequently- I make no apologies for this, nor do I feel I should have to. This is simply because I refuse to listen to you.

If you tell me who to love, if you tell me how to show my love for them you don't penetrate the walls that surround me.
If you believe that government should be just small enough to fit in my bedroom, I will not hear you- because my ears are opened to the truth, and to the truth alone.
If you tell me that black is black and white is white, that male is male and female is female, that love is love and pain is pain, I won't heed you- because you are wrong.

I should not have had to build these walls. Nobody should be trying to tell me whom to love or how to love them. But as long as you do, I have to stay behind them. My sturdy walls, hung with proud banners, sheltering a place of love, and lust, and the pleasure they bring. All of it bathed in pleasant shades of grey.

If you do not wish to know the pleasure of being lost in big, bear-like arms, adrift in the pleasure of touch and sharing it with another man- your choice.
If you don't care to find the joy of hard leather stinging your back as your mouth fills with cock- your choice.
If I do- my choice, and not your business.

What the fuck should you care if I like getting fucked in the arse? I volunteered for it, I'm doing it with a consenting partner in the privacy of one of our homes, so what's it to you? You say it's damning my soul? Well then, it's my soul to damn and that's the choice I've made. I disagree, but if I'm wrong then at least I'm happy with it. I don't protest your rights to drive your smog-spewing people-mover to church, so why protest my rights to make love to people whom I love?

If the smell and leather and lube gets me hard- how does that affect you?
If the thought of two men together disgusts you- why do you think it?
If I dream of pain, domination, restraint, cocksucking and arse-fucking- why is that a problem?

It isn't. I see that. And the eyes of the rest of the world are opening to it as well. Open your eyes too, mate. And see why I stay as I am. Queer. Kinky. Proud.

[MrDom]

love it hear hear you go


MrDom

[angelic.zest]

Wyld *hugss tight* LOL..ok

[Euryleia]

What the fuck should you care if I like getting fucked in the arse? I volunteered for it, I'm doing it with a consenting partner in the privacy of one of our homes, so what's it to you? You say it's damning my soul? Well then, it's my soul to damn and that's the choice I've made. I disagree, but if I'm wrong then at least I'm happy with it. I don't protest your rights to drive your smog-spewing people-mover to church, so why protest my rights to make love to people whom I love?



Amen, brother.

[lookingforsomething]

very nice pet, i am proud of you.

[Wordsmith]

very nice lil bro....well said! *applauds*

[Cipher]

Ballsy, I like it.

[Logic1]

nice Wyl
I like it

[suchaminx]

Wyl ~smiles and hugs~

Good for you!!

love minxy xx

[H Dean]

Hmm, but what are you proud of?

[Hime]

Preach it. :D

[drusilla]

i like what you said about the government not being so small as to fit in the bedroom. It reminds me of the hotbed of bull going on here in the states about gay marriage (or maybe that's just where my brain is). Either way, good stuff. i'm not sure if it was done this way or not, but it seems like a "freewrite" where you just sort of let your mind flow. Those can be highly therapeutic as well as good for getting a start on virtually any writing.

Most excellent cutie!

[WyldWyl]

Hmm, but what are you proud of?

I'm proud of being who I am, and of sticking to that in the face of opposition from society. I'm proud of all the people here who can say that too. I'd say that together we can rebuild the world, but that would seem unnecessarily messianic.

But thank you everyone for your kind words. It was fun to write!

[goalt]

[additional applausey stuff for Wyl]

[Arria]

Very well said, Wyl.

The part I liked best was: "If the thought of two men together disgusts you- why do you think it?"

This holds true to so many things...

Hugs
Arria

[subtlescreams]

Amen to all that.

I love my gay male friends. One of them (who I knew years ago, and am proud to be friends with again) is helping me a bit with learning about being a sub. I probably never would have gone to a dungeon party without knowing its HIS dungeon and that although he is a Dom, I was probably as safe with him, or more so even than with my own loving MAN.

My gay male friends go through a lot just for being gay, and my Dom friend even more.
Fight the good fight, friend! (though it sucks you have to fight!)

[gloombunny]

Fuck yeah.

[***Kate***]

All I can say is...
be true to your self and who you are. and fuck anyone else who dont like it.

as they say he who protests to much....

[TomOfSweden]

It's quite a menacing target you've created.

[Tufty]

If you do not wish to know the pleasure of being lost in big, bear-like arms, adrift in the pleasure of touch and sharing it with another man- your choice.
If you don't care to find the joy of hard leather stinging your back as your mouth fills with cock- your choice.
If I do- my choice, and not your business.

What the fuck should you care if I like getting fucked in the arse? I volunteered for it, I'm doing it with a consenting partner in the privacy of one of our homes, so what's it to you? You say it's damning my soul? Well then, it's my soul to damn and that's the choice I've made. I disagree, but if I'm wrong then at least I'm happy with it. I don't protest your rights to drive your smog-spewing people-mover to church, so why protest my rights to make love to people whom I love?

If the smell and leather and lube gets me hard- how does that affect you?
If the thought of two men together disgusts you- why do you think it?
If I dream of pain, domination, restraint, cocksucking and arse-fucking- why is that a problem?

Absolutely right!!

Why the fuck does society insist on 'labelling' and 'catagorizing' people - and then criticise and condem?

I really couldn't care less if somebody has a different sexual orientation to me...or, for that matter, if they have a different coloured skin or they have a disability or what religion they are.

So many 'open-minded' people who have their minds closed to everything but what they think is right...and people like that really do piss me off!

[Sir_Russell]

be proud of who you are unless you are someone that allows their prejudices to get the best of them.

We all have prejudices but most of us recognize and work to correct them.

[ThisYouWillDo]

Ok you wanted a discussion ... here goes ...

Everyone here seems to agree with you, and, in a forum like this it's hardly surpising.

In fact, I agree too.

I think you'll find it hard to get any kind of debate going on this topic.

But here's to you, Wyld.

[mkemse]

Being the manifesto of a young man who fills all three of the above categories. I put it here because I intended it to be a discussion starter and I thought it would see more traffic here. If a mod thinks it needs to be moved back to non-erotic prose, then they should feel free. Anyway, enjoy.

----------------------------

Yes, I am queer. And yes, I am kinky. Fantasies of pain, domination, restraint, cocksucking and arse-fucking fill my mind frequently- I make no apologies for this, nor do I feel I should have to. This is simply because I refuse to listen to you.

If you tell me who to love, if you tell me how to show my love for them you don't penetrate the walls that surround me.
If you believe that government should be just small enough to fit in my bedroom, I will not hear you- because my ears are opened to the truth, and to the truth alone.
If you tell me that black is black and white is white, that male is male and female is female, that love is love and pain is pain, I won't heed you- because you are wrong.

I should not have had to build these walls. Nobody should be trying to tell me whom to love or how to love them. But as long as you do, I have to stay behind them. My sturdy walls, hung with proud banners, sheltering a place of love, and lust, and the pleasure they bring. All of it bathed in pleasant shades of grey.

If you do not wish to know the pleasure of being lost in big, bear-like arms, adrift in the pleasure of touch and sharing it with another man- your choice.
If you don't care to find the joy of hard leather stinging your back as your mouth fills with cock- your choice.
If I do- my choice, and not your business.

What the fuck should you care if I like getting fucked in the arse? I volunteered for it, I'm doing it with a consenting partner in the privacy of one of our homes, so what's it to you? You say it's damning my soul? Well then, it's my soul to damn and that's the choice I've made. I disagree, but if I'm wrong then at least I'm happy with it. I don't protest your rights to drive your smog-spewing people-mover to church, so why protest my rights to make love to people whom I love?

If the smell and leather and lube gets me hard- how does that affect you?
If the thought of two men together disgusts you- why do you think it?
If I dream of pain, domination, restraint, cocksucking and arse-fucking- why is that a problem?

It isn't. I see that. And the eyes of the rest of the world are opening to it as well. Open your eyes too, mate. And see why I stay as I am. Queer. Kinky. Proud.

Remain Proud &
GOOD FOR YOU!!!!!:wave:

[TomOfSweden]

Just a question here. What is society judging us, and what is our own fears of what the rest of society will think? I'm pretty open about my kinks, (it's not like I rub it in peoples noses but anyway) and I've noticed that few care. It's either "oh, what ever" or "that's cool". And I have a wide variety of friends with many different interests.

Sure there's vocal religious lunatics in the media condemning us. But they're crazy. Westborough Baptist church is like what, 7 people? 5?

I think a large part of this feeling Wyld Wyl expressed so eloquently is just our own fears. Or maybe I'm just shielded from all evil here in atheist Sweden? But I don't think so.

I clearly remember as a kid that which I wanted the most was what scared me the most. I was afraid of getting what I wanted. Is this what it's about?

[Euryleia]

Six hundred billboard panels will depict that statement in giant, tabloid-style capital letters, on a bright red background at locations in England, Scotland and Wales. I've attached a picture of it.

The billboard advertising panels, kindly donated by Titan Outdoor Advertising Ltd, continue Stonewall’s simple, striking poster campaign which began in schools in November 2007.

The uncompromising statement and powerful design were developed in collaboration with 150 secondary school pupils and teachers for Stonewall. They were originally launched by Dr Who and Torchwood star John Barrowman as part of Stonewall’s Education for All campaign to tackle homophobic bullying in schools.

Ben Summerskill, Stonewall Chief Executive, says: ‘Homophobia is almost endemic in our schools and blights the lives of people throughout society. It makes sense that this zero-tolerance message should be extended to the wider public. Across urban and rural Britain, this plain-speaking slogan will remind people that discrimination against gay men and lesbians is no longer acceptable.’

Education For All (http://www.stonewall.org.uk/education_for_all/)

[WyldWyl]

Just a question here. What is society judging us, and what is our own fears of what the rest of society will think?...I think a large part of this feeling Wyld Wyl expressed so eloquently is just our own fears. Or maybe I'm just shielded from all evil here in atheist Sweden? But I don't think so.

Somewhat, of course. This was written off the back of an attack on my bf/Dom's computer by homophobically motivated hackers. (Incidentally, I'm not just assuming motivation here, the event log for the time records eleoquent statements such as "fags== aids they should all die") This was caused by a public display of affection between us at an event he was attending. (Long story that I'll hold back for privacy concerns, but again that isn't guesswork) I guess I'm just angry that I live in a world where I still can't kiss another man in public without attracting hate and abuse.

So, in the face of that, what options do I have left? I'm not really the type to knuckle under and go back into the closet. So it behooves me to get out there and attack right back, by showing that I'm not going to go away. I realise this isn't the most controversial place to put it...but pretty soon it's going out to the broader public, once I find the right medium. It's a statment that I choose to make because I earnestly believe it has to be said.

Unfortunately, of course, the people you want to convince are the ones that will never be convinced of my point, the ones that will always hate gay people. The ones that will always hate kinksters. The ones that will always hate people who don't look at the world the way they do. The people you most want to stop are the ones who can't be won over, which is tragic, but it is nonetheless a fact. So the only thing to do is reach out to the people who are a) yet to be convinced either way or b)don't like gays/kinksters but can still have their minds changed. If I can get in the face of even one of these, and force them to deal with the issue, I'll have a sense of satisfaction.

And well, it's always fun ranting. I can't ignore that. Thank you, Tom, once again you've made me think harder and explain myself. It's really very helpful.