Bathroom control my way

[Sir_Russell]

So many that have taken my bdsm questionaire and have asked about bathroom control and find it disgusting or want to know what I mean.

I am sure there are many forms of this one but my way is fun for all.

Part of my training is that not only does she have to ask permission to use the bathroom but beg me to accompany her. When in the bathroom and she is naked on the throne I grab her hair and pull her mouth down on my cock.

Now she get to suck as she takes care of other body functions, it rarely takes more then too visit to the loo to change her mind on this practice. Then suddenly she is over the embarrassment and I own a little more of her.

[jeanne]

Oh my goodness, Sir_Russell. You've taken something I didn't think I was the least bit interested in and made it....


...enticing.

[Alex Bragi]

Mm.. Please don't take this the wrong way, but this kind of reminds me of the old adage: "Sure you can catch an std from public toilet but it's a strange place to take a date." *gg*

More seriously, I guess we, modern humans, seem to have an almost annate intriuge with toilets. I mean look at how kids will always gravite to the toilet/toilets of new surroundings. It's something that we consider we "grow out of" but for many of us it's just something we repress because of what our society, generally, finds acceptable. :)

[Logic1]

I always tend to levitate to the toilets still but then again I work with water and sanitation and heating and all that so I guess I am damaged by my line of work :p.

+ yeah I am with jeanne there. You somehow made it interesting..

[~hellish one~]

Russell's description of how he utilizes bathroom control definitely sounds enticing...and humiliating as well. ;)

Unfortunately, because we weren't r/l, we had to take a more subtle approach to bathroom control. I was restricted to using the bathroom every 2-3 hours (depending on his mood lol). Of course there were consequences to not making it on time and we took things a little further a time or two. But that's too embarrassing to mention here and now! :o

I can understand the appeal of bathroom control...especially in long distance relationships. For me, I yearn for that control in my day to day life. Everything doesn't have to be sexual for me. (not that it doesn't hurt, mind you!) Giving up that control to him each day, especially on days we couldn't talk that often, it just always helped me to be mindful of my submission to him.

[Warbaby1943]

So many that have taken my bdsm questionaire and have asked about bathroom control and find it disgusting or want to know what I mean.

I am sure there are many forms of this one but my way is fun for all.

Part of my training is that not only does she have to ask permission to use the bathroom but beg me to accompany her. When in the bathroom and she is naked on the throne I grab her hair and pull her mouth down on my cock.

Now she get to suck as she takes care of other body functions, it rarely takes more then too visit to the loo to change her mind on this practice. Then suddenly she is over the embarrassment and I own a little more of her.Sounds like great training.

[Wedjat]

I can kind of see it as Sir Russell describes it, but to just hold your pee, or pee at certain times long distance, without anything interesting to nibble on just ain't gonna happen, especially if it means peeing me pants - naah, that ain't sexy at all! I agree with Delia that it just isn't particularly healthy, either.

[~hellish one~]

Well, I never once peed my pants. And I don't know about the rest of you guys but I don't usually go to the bathroom more than every couple of hours anyways. So it's not like he was setting an extremely high standard that would be impossible for me to achieve. My body just became conditioned to go to the bathroom at the top of the hour, every two hours or so. If I had to go and knew there was no way I could hold it, or if it was more than...oh, say 10 min until my next scheduled bathroom time, then I would just go and face the consequences later. ~shrugs~

Different strokes and all that...

[cadence]

I don't know if bathroom control would work for me very well, seeing as I can go at least three or four times during an hour. And we're not talking piddling either.
When I am told I can't go to the bathroom, I can actually bring myself to go within five minutes of being told.
Maybe I could be trained in that, but I would suspect that if I had training as Sir Russell does it, we would be in the bathrom the majority of the day.

[Sir_Russell]

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Some how I have a hard time seeing that as a bad thing.

Just for the record all it isn't just when she has to pee, that I use this technique. Humiliation is part of it, yes, but she learns this way that nothing is left that she is allowed to keep from me.

[Whippett]

Really interesting approach Russell - I've never used that (smoke pours from ears at the possibilities - lol). I have always made the girl beg permission - and the price of going is a blowjob prior to her getting to the bathroom. It's especially effective when she's locked into a chastity belt too - because she knows not only does she have to make sure she has time to give me a proper bj before she goes - but - it will take a while to find the key and unlock the appropriate panel in the cb <weg>.

[Warbaby1943]

Really interesting approach Russell - I've never used that (smoke pours from ears at the possibilities - lol). I have always made the girl beg permission - and the price of going is a blowjob prior to her getting to the bathroom. It's especially effective when she's locked into a chastity belt too - because she knows not only does she have to make sure she has time to give me a proper bj before she goes - but - it will take a while to find the key and unlock the appropriate panel in the cb <weg>.Now that really sounds good.

[Wedjat]

Hmm, not sure about sounding good, to a sub like meself with high blood pressure and on water *****, it sounds more like torture : ) Plus the Dom would probably get wet feet instead of a blow job eventually, and I don't think that's the sub's fault! Ah well, it's all theoretical for me at this point anyway, darnit.

[Whippett]

Hmm, not sure about sounding good, to a sub like meself with high blood pressure and on water *****, it sounds more like torture : ) Plus the Dom would probably get wet feet instead of a blow job eventually, and I don't think that's the sub's fault! Ah well, it's all theoretical for me at this point anyway, darnit.

Ah - but a good dom would know that about you wedjat and take that into account <weg>

[Saucie]

As an insulin dependent diabetic who drinks several gallons of water a day for blood sugar control, being denied the bathroom would be a hard limit for me. But then again, I have a Daddy, not a Master. It sounds like a fun thing to do to a slave, and very creative (kudos, Sir Russell), but since I almost solely prefer the Daddy/Daughter dynamic, it doesn't sound very good to me. Rock on, though, to those that do! And I appreciate the post. I love learning about new things, even if I personally wouldn't enjoy them. Besides, I might top someone one day who would enjoy that sort of thing. :D

[cadence]

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Some how I have a hard time seeing that as a bad thing.


I was thinking that you would say that, I doubt I would find too many objections to that from other Doms as well.

I do like your method though, and I love the reasoning behind it too.

[Wedjat]

why did they block out the last part of the word water ***** in my post? (water*****?) Weird

[Wedjat]

dang, they did it again! Very Weird! I even tried a different spelling.

[Sir_Russell]

Am I right that I am the only one here that uses this technique for training a slave?

[delish]

I think that I would enjoy the method, but I don't think I could ever broach the subject with him, because my embarassment at the thought outweighs the excitement. But I certainly wouldn't mind control on that level, to some degree or another.

[Whippett]

Am I right that I am the only one here that uses this technique for training a slave?

I haven't used it the way you do Russell (but I will (weg))- but I use bathroom training and other forms that require begging for necessaries as slave training too - meal-times - for example - food is begged for - and requires a rough blowjob - or occasionally - she is allowed a bite of food with each thrust (since she's on her knees, arms bound behind her at the time - each thrust pushes her face into her food bowl) - but that's off topic so I won't go there.

[Uncle_Ed.]

I am tempted to say: "Bathroom control? Don't fawcett.."

But-I won't.

I would start a flood of complaints.

[jeanne]

I am tempted to say: "Bathroom control? Don't fawcett.."

But-I won't.

I would start a flood of complaints.

LOL

and *groan*

Uncle_Ed - how do you manage to be painfully funny? That's a skill. :rolleyes:

[Wedjat]

Painfully funny? Probably a good trait in a Dom : )

[Whippett]

Now that is an interesting approach Uncle Ed - not only require the sub to beg for bathroom privileges - but make her puddle up with laughter too - a mind-fuck after my own heart (weg). Hmmmmm - the possibilities just drip with sardonic humour

[Sir_Russell]

Trust me the first few times we do this she has to be commanded to do the job we went in there for. She will suck and often suck with greater excitement then before but it is also a way to put off relieving herself in front of me.

I get to command her to go in both ways again causing her to give me more of her then she ever thought she would. Trust me when taking a dump she has to strain to do that be embarressed and suck hard since that is what I want.

[alpha_Straye]

Am I right that I am the only one here that uses this technique for training a slave?

yes Sir i would imagine so. dont You end up with sleep deprivation, having to get up twice as many times in the night (for her needs and then Yours).. having to follow her to work and have her follow You to work.. needing to make explainations to the management of that restaurant as to why You need to go into the women's room with her or vice versa... all to be sure Your cock is available in case she needs to go? i would have thought that in practice this would result in SomeOne having to be kinda chained to Their slave's bodily functions. being permanently on the bathroom buddy system would take an awful lot of work, for the Dominant Partner as much as the slave. though i can see it working if You're independantly wealthy and both stay home together all the time or something or maybe if this is an online thing.

well either way it sounds like it works for You and one does certainly have to admire Your dedication, Sir *smile*.

[Sir_Russell]

alpha_Straye,

If we are getting into a pissing contest I won't play, it is part of my training within normal reason and events, I do not intrude on her work that would be out of bounds, other then that I do. Waking up at night with her is not unpleasant at all.

[GearJammer]

As in many other aspects of life, it appears that the why of the matter may have taken a backseat to the what of the matter.

It is Russell's method to remove individual, personal, alone aspects of his slave's existence, and from that view, I see it as a wise choice. That is said with the assumption that Russell takes care as to the medical/hygiene aspects of the matter. Given what else I have seen of him, I see that as a safe assumption.

Not something I would personally consider at the outset of a relationship. However, I am not Russell nor is he me, and, relationships change and morph as more of each player's personality comes into the clear light of day.

I would suggest that his motivations and reasoning deserve first and primary consideration, before the mechanics of the method are dissected.

[icey]

i used to hate bathroom control,even just having to ask permission to go or if we're in company i dont have to ask just mention i need the bathroom and he will either nod or shake his head.

the first few times Icehawk came to the bathroom with me it made me gag and we had to run the taps otherwise no matter how desperate i was i just couldnt do it.
thankfully its not everytime and its only ever when i need a wee.

Am I right that I am the only one here that uses this technique for training a slave?

Icehawk does it too,although i have to stand when im using the toilet (for weeing) so giving a bj would be pretty difficult.

out doors he makes me wait until im bursting then i have to squat and give him a bj at the same time,ive never liked it but im pleased i can do it now,its probably nothing to some people but for me it was and i was so proud the first few times lol.
ive had to do it a couple of times outdoors as a puppy too,luckily being a girl means i dont have to cock my leg up a tree! but it can still be a bit wet and messy.

bathroom control is not something i like and doubt i ever will,but im used to it now.

[ShaynaUnderBondage]

very very interesting

[caress]

gawd, Sir..... Your way of bathroom control makes me blush, shiver, and dampen just reading it. it would be hard enough to beg for Your permission to use the bathroom....... let alone to beg You to come with me.

to be so vulnerable...... naked.... open...... in such a private place.....! the humiliation would be so profound.... it would create such deep submission. There would be no resistance left by the time one's hair was grabbed and the Master's cock thrust into the mouth. sucking would increase the sense of submission and service, yet be a soothing influence in the midst of such mental turmoil..... sinking the slave even deeper to a level where they could actually accomplish the tasks the room was meant for.

it would certainly remove pride...... make the slave intensely aware that she does not have control, even of her own body.... and likely deepen the slave's response to the Master's cock.

Thanks for sharing!

caress

[orangeblossoms]

This thread just sounded hot, I love me some bathroom control, but just control in general. Its the extreme humiliation slut in me..

[Isabella King]

Having been subjected to both Russell's (BJ during) and Whipetts (BJ before) by my OH, I have to say I definitely prefer the former and I find these elements of bathroom control more of a turn on than humiliating.

However, having to do my business away from the bathroom, on his order, is something I still find worthy of a blush and a cringe...especially when it's on a newspaper in the corner of the room - I'm cringing just thinking about it.

[angelic.zest]

yeah this is a hot thread and im with orangeblossom...i enjoy the aspect of control in general, im more a humili slut *nods alot* lol

[Escritor]

This thread just sounded hot, I love me some bathroom control, but just control in general. Its the extreme humiliation slut in me..

Since I love bathroom control, and control in general, as you do, would love to hear some ideas about it!

[Fumiko-Oppai]

Here, it's something one must get used to.
The practical aspects are that Master prefers Hospital type/issue restraints (various kinds) and they can take some time to unlock and open, so in many instances it's just simpler to take whichever of us needs a tinkle to the toilet and fold it into the Lifestyle rather than 'breaking' the course of things.
But, one must ALWAYS ask permission to be excused to use the 'facilities', and if he's not at home (away on business) or unavailable (he does a lot of work at home also) our Dam is the one we must appeal to and she in-turn must appeal to him for her own permissions.
If he's in town but out of the house, a phonecall/text between our Dam and Master resolves her permissions. If he's away for extended times, she has full freedom to go as she needs. If he's working in-home, he makes time to address her permissions.

When restrained, one can always expect a spreader-bar between one's ankles, and if not in restraints, one is supposed to keep one's legs 'comfortably wide open', if one is Escorted (as there's times when one or all of us are suspected of being unable to resist the urge to engage in some self-play.) ;)

Brianna 'The Brat' insists on occasionally trying to challenge Master's authority when taken for a time-determined tinkle (when in restraints there's a default for tinkle breaks about every 3 hours) by refusing to go/relieve herself.
Or, some of us still have trouble relieving ourselves under observation.
Master's answer?
Ice cube or cubes, either rubbed slowly over the lowermost abdomen to the Pubis, or the small of the back/back of the pelvis.
Between that and spread-apart legs...the issue is always resolved, perhaps uncomfortably, but resolved. ;)

Outside of home, a simple "May I/we be excused to the Ladie's?" is quick, easy, polite and very few people realize the true tone of the question.

[WandaWicked]

Here, it's something one must get used to.
The practical aspects are that Master prefers Hospital type/issue restraints (various kinds) and they can take some time to unlock and open, so in many instances it's just simpler to take whichever of us needs a tinkle to the toilet and fold it into the Lifestyle rather than 'breaking' the course of things.
But, one must ALWAYS ask permission to be excused to use the 'facilities', and if he's not at home (away on business) or unavailable (he does a lot of work at home also) our Dam is the one we must appeal to and she in-turn must appeal to him for her own permissions.
If he's in town but out of the house, a phonecall/text between our Dam and Master resolves her permissions. If he's away for extended times, she has full freedom to go as she needs. If he's working in-home, he makes time to address her permissions.

When restrained, one can always expect a spreader-bar between one's ankles, and if not in restraints, one is supposed to keep one's legs 'comfortably wide open', if one is Escorted (as there's times when one or all of us are suspected of being unable to resist the urge to engage in some self-play.) ;)

Brianna 'The Brat' insists on occasionally trying to challenge Master's authority when taken for a time-determined tinkle (when in restraints there's a default for tinkle breaks about every 3 hours) by refusing to go/relieve herself.
Or, some of us still have trouble relieving ourselves under observation.
Master's answer?
Ice cube or cubes, either rubbed slowly over the lowermost abdomen to the Pubis, or the small of the back/back of the pelvis.
Between that and spread-apart legs...the issue is always resolved, perhaps uncomfortably, but resolved. ;)

Outside of home, a simple "May I/we be excused to the Ladie's?" is quick, easy, polite and very few people realize the true tone of the question.


This is something I'm still getting used to, and have had some VERY painful but 100% harmless reminders about. Look up 'Tazapper' and you'll know what I mean. ;)

[Marlene38ee]

This is something I'm still getting used to, and have had some VERY painful but 100% harmless reminders about. Look up 'Tazapper' and you'll know what I mean. ;)

I'm just happy that we're getting back to being who we are! Husband and his plan for today earlier sure made it clear that he was bringing things back-to-course :triumphant::positive::playful::surprise::love-struck::topsy_turvy::cheerful: