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Rational Head
05-07-2008, 02:29 AM
Whole world is facing the steep inflation. People wonder what the causes of this inflation are. Some believe that inflation is a good thing and if stable and controlled it shows progress. But majority of middle class suffers the fears of high prices.
Let me explain you the whole concept of Money and Inflation with an example.
Let’s assume a small city called San Andreas located on an island of Andreas. It’s a fully self-sustained city, and it produces everything it needs. Barter system works here. If a tailor needs food then he exchanges it for the clothes he made from the farmer who grew wheat and needed clothes.
The problem came when people's need grew up and they needed more products, now a doctor could not take 20 suits in exchange for providing health care to a tailor, because he simply does not need 20 suits. So tailor had no way of paying doctor, as it’s really difficult for him to acquire all the things doctor requires. So what he does is, exchanges suits in exchange of cigarettes, even when he does not require cigarettes. He exchanges cigarettes because everyone wants cigarettes, so he would exchange the cigarettes to someone who needed cigarettes and provided something he required.
Even when the other person who lets say in this case made metal tools does not need cigarettes he will still take it in exchange of giving his tools because someone else might accept it.
In this whole situation, cigarettes act like a currency. People don't really need the product as such but they just accept it anyways because other people are ready to take it.
Soon the problem with Cigarettes arrived. You can't really store cigarettes for long, and you can't create smaller units or combine them to make larger units. Plus if you need to buy a car from it, you will have to supply a truck full of cigarettes which is inconvenient.
So People soon found out that metals prove to be a really good currency, they are malleable, they are ductile, sturdy and they can survive extreme temperatures. So soon people started to make currencies out of say like copper, and tin, when better metals came up, people started to use Silver and Gold as the currency because they fit in all the requirements of a currency perfectly. You can store gold for long, it doesn't rust, and it’s very malleable and ductile.
Let’s get back to San Andreas, the gold smith of San Andreas made gold coins of a specific weight which carried a specific value. If you wanted to take the services of a teacher, you pay him in those coins, if a teacher wants to buy the shoes you made, he pays you in gold coins.
There is a goldsmith in San Andreas called Mehta Jewelers, deal with a lot of gold so they did the job of molding a gold coin, and printing its weight on it. They buy other stuff from people, like a bullock cart, wheat etc and gave them these gold coins in return because it was much easier to take a gold coin from the jeweler with its weight printed on it rather than taking an unmarked piece of gold, weighing it, testing it and then completing the transaction.
Soon everybody starts accepting only Mehta Jewelers gold coins, if someone had a piece of gold they want to exchange with, they went to Mehta Jewelers, who measured it and provided them with equal amount of marked gold coins, and then later turned that piece of gold in further marked gold coins.
Now the thing is Mehta Jewelers does not really owns a lot of gold, he just basically takes gold, turns that into marked gold coin and gives it back to the person who brought it to them.
One day, Mrs. Mehta was going through the market and she really liked an Elephant which was for sale. She came back and demanded Mr. Mehta to buy her the elephant, but Mr. Mehta wasn't that rich to buy her an elephant, but since she insisted a lot so he thought of a clever trick, he took some spare metal which looked like gold, mixed it with some copper and bronze and created a coin which looked like gold, and marked it with equal weight of gold, and used it to buy that elephant.
Now you would call it as counterfeiting or forgery. But wait isn't Mr. Mehta was suppose to be the one to make the gold coins? So if Mehta jewelers made that coin, it can't be called as forgery or fraud? Haha, I am sure nobody is going to buy that reasoning. Mehta Jeweler is a fraud. As soon as someone in the city uses Archimedes principle to measure the weight of that coin they will find that it’s not made of pure gold. So this is what happens, someone in the city finds out that this coin is not real. People approach Mr. Mehta and he is found guilty of committing fraud and his status is taken away. Same holds true for any jeweler in place of Mr. Mehta, if they try to forge coins they will be caught some day.
A new Gold Smith called, Patel Jewelers take place of Mehta Jewelers as appointed by the city. Now Mr. Patel in order to deal with the "problem" of cumbersomeness of gold coins and the fact that physical transfer of those gold coins is too dangerous, Patel Jewelers started to introduce promissory notes, a bond on which Patel Jewelers signed that they will provide the producer of this note the specified quantity of gold.
Everything was going fine until one day Mrs. Patel who was going through the market saw a very expensive dress in the market, that dress was really costly and she went back to her husband and demanded that he buy her that dress. Now Mr. Patel didn't really have that much amount of actual gold, so what he did was he printed a paper on which he promised to pay the bearer the specified amount of gold even when he didn't have that much amount of gold actually. He hoped that since there won't be any demand for all the gold in one time, so he will never have to worry about not having that much gold with him, but then this thing goes on and on and soon there are too many promissory notes out there and simply not enough gold to back it all up.
So one day, though its a rare circumstance, there is a rush to the jeweler and everyone presented the promissory notes they had to the Jeweler, the Jeweler is not able to pay them all the Gold, this is considered as a fraud and Patel Jewelers is punished by the city for committing fraud.
Now the city council is too furious that these things are happening so they decide to take matters in their own hand. The city council decides that now they are going to print the notes. But there is a catch, since the city council does not have their gold of their own; they issue these notes without any gold backing.
Of course no single person is in charge of city council so nobody is directly printing the notes for their personal use. But here is what happens. The overall business of the city goes down because of insufficient rains, so the city council sees it as a recession and since people are crying so they decide to deal with it by providing a stimulus package, basically they issue more promissory notes to the people, since these notes do not necessarily reflect actual labor and people who receive them(usually poor people or city council workers) they spend it and buy stuff which is not through actual labor.
Lets go a bit deep in this part of example, lets say there are 100,000 Andorra (the currency of San Andreas) out there in market. Every Andorra is supposed to fetch 10 gms of gold back in the days of Patel Jewelers. Now there is a recession so the city council prints 10,000 Andorra more and give it to the poor.
Now what has happened that any poor guy who was not able to buy a quintal of rice because the price has gone up to 10 Andorra from 2 Andorra(remember, it didn't rain well this year that means lesser production of rice, so higher prices).
So government gives 100 Andorra to every poor guy(100 poor guys) they all are now able to pay 10 Andorra for the price of per quintal, but wait!! Do we really have that much rice to be sold to the people, just because government printed more money? NO! So what happens is that the price of every quintal of rice has gone further up from 10 Andorra per quintal to 20 Andorra per quintal, effectively making rice out of reach of the poor people again(so no matter how much money city council prints, the price of rice will go up and up).
At the same time, people want to buy other products too so their prices will also go up. Overall this is called inflation, and more the government prints the money, more it goes up.
Now what I have written about inflation, this holds true if the market is really dynamic, but this is not the case, it takes time for inflation to be reflected everywhere. The prices of Rice will not go up in one day, so the people who get this newly printed money (usually the "poor") and the salaried individuals employed by city council, they get the quickest advantage. They spend the money and buy the products, now the burden is shifted to the person on whom they bought the product. These people then spend money on something else, and this spreads all over the economy and hurts till the person who tries to spend the money the last, or who saved a lot. His money is now of less value because the prices of everything has gone up.
Another harsh reality you have to keep in mind that the poor people aren't really the most productive people of a free society, basically anyone who gets the advantage of economic stimulus package did not deserve it, and it harms the more productive man who works really hard and saves a lot of money, because once government prints more money, his savings are now worth less than they should have been. If he saved 100 Andorra, after introduction of those newly printed Andorra, his savings are now only 100*100,000/(100,000+10,000)=90 Andorra.

So he lost 10 Andorra out of nowhere, because City Council (or in real world the Government) printed more money.
originally posted at http://designinglifenhappenings.blogspot.com/

Rational Head
05-07-2008, 02:32 AM
Let me demonstrate you what caused the price increase of Rice:
I just got a historical (12 Feb. 2006) price of rice per ton in India( http://www.thehindubusinessline.com/2006/02/13/stories/2006021300400700.htm )
$236 per ton
Gold price on (12 Feb. 2006)
http://www.kitco.com/scripts/hist_charts/daily_graphs.cgi
$550 per ounce
So price of a ton rice in 2006 in terms of gold (because you cannot mess up with the value of gold be printing more gold)
0.429 ounce of gold will buy one ton of Rice
Current price of Rice in India (28 march 2008)
$1,000 per ton
Current Gold price (28th March 2008)
$950 per ounce
So price of a ton rice in 2008 in terms of gold:
1.0526 ounce of gold will buy one ton or Rice.
Now in terms of dollars, the price of rice has jumped $1000/$236=4.23 times
And in terms of Gold the price of rice has jumped only 1.0526/0.429=2.45 times
Now the jump you see in terms of GOLD, is the actual supply-demand jump. The demand of rice has jumped 2.45 times more than supply of rice compared to what it been back in 2006.
But, the jump you see in terms of dollars, it means that in addition to demand of rice going up, the money supply of dollars is that much more in the market(simple way of finding out is to take the ratio of gold price now by gold price in 2006 i.e. $950/$450=2.11 times).
That means the American government (and any counterfeiters, basically everyone who can create more dollars), have printed and pushed 2.11 time more money into the Market than it was in 2006. Why? Because American government is spending trillions of dollars in Iraq war, they need that money so they printed more money and spent it.
Now this still doesn't explain why there is a 2.45 times surge in demand-supply ratio, its not that unluckily people just started to consume more, well the point is there are three stages of inflation:
1) At first when price rises people think "Well this is weird, the price of this product has gone too high, but there might be some emergency, I will buy when the prices come down", a housewife who needs a frying pan at this stage thinks the same and postpones her purchase of Frying pan for a later date when the prices drop.
2) Sooner or later, the people, and our housewife in the above example realizes that the Government plans to keep on inflating the money supply, and therefore the prices are going to rise more and more. Then she reasons: "I do not need a new frying pan today; I shall only need one next year. But I had better buy it now because next year the price will be much higher." If more and more people think like that then everyone rushes to buy more and more stuff. People buy more and more rice to store for future when the prices will be even higher. The demand of Money falls down considerably and demand of products rises up even more. At this point the government is called to "relieve the money shortage".
3) Soon the country reaches to a stage of "crack-up boom" where people say: "I must buy anything now--anything to get rid of money which depreciates on my hands." The supply of money skyrockets (like last week Bush administration with a Joint opposition effort decided to mail everyone a check of $600), the demand plummets and price rise astronomically. Production falls sharply, as people spend more and more of their time finding ways to get rid of their money. The monetary system has, in effect, broken down completely, and the economy reverts to other moneys, if they are attainable--other metal, foreign currencies if this is one-country inflation, or even a return to barter conditions. The monetary system has broken down under the impact of inflation. This stage is also called Hyper-inflation.
As you can see we are right now in second stage of inflation, people bought more rice than they need because they were afraid that the price of Rice is going to rise even further. The market wasn't REALLY having a demand of rice, but the government distorted market's signals and people thought the market is running out of rice so they ran to buy more rice, and now the market is Actually running out of rice.
How Federal Reserve of United States inflating the dollar is is related to Inflation in India?
Well here is the thing, contrary to what many people believe Indian Rupees is not tied to Gold, it’s actually tied (like most of the currencies in the world) to Dollar. The price of Indian Rupee in International Market is determined by the American dollars, Indian government has that is the issuer of Indian Rupees.
If you guys remember a few months ago we saw Indian Rupees rising against the Dollar (thus proving my point that Dollar caused the inflation) because American government created more dollars, and spent a lot of them in International Market, so when India got it (India and China are the two biggest direct receivers of American Dollars), Indian Rupee rose, but soon when everyone got enough American dollars, the price of commodities in International Market in terms of dollars rose crazily.
What is the solution?
A 100% gold backed Indian Rupee. How can we even think of having our currencies tied to another country's currency, so when they are fighting a war, we end up paying for it by going hungry. Some people now suggest that we should tie it to Euro now, which is again same stupidity, contrary to what you may believe George W Bush can be more trusted with Dollars then Europeans with Euro.
According to the World Gold Council, privately held gold in India is worth US$920 billion , which is four times the amount held in Fort Knox(where all the Gold of US is kept) and about 1/5th of all gold ever mined in the world. That simply means if in future people lose their faith in fiat currency and everyone shifted to Gold standard, Indian public will be world's richest society in the world(because American dollars will be worthless).
Anyone who really understands the value of gold in today's economy, had they invested all their Rupee/Dollar deposit in Gold (around 12th Feb 2006), by now would have been in much less of a trouble because of inflation. Anytime a war starts government prints a lot of money, any time a poverty eradication program (like the latest Debt elimination program by Indian Finance Minister where Rs 60,000 Crore will be created out of thin air), just buy more and more gold.
Check out many digital gold currencies:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Digital_gold_currency
Also check this service where you can open a free gold currency account and they will do the buying and storing of the gold for you (for a service fees)
http://www.goldmoney.com/
I do not take any guarantee for their services, for guarantee check this page:
http://www.goldmoney.com/en/guarantee.html

Originally posted at:: http://designinglifenhappenings.blogspot.com/

MMI
05-10-2008, 04:38 PM
The price of gold can fall as well as rise. Past performance is not a guide to future performance. If you buy gold, you may get back less than your original investment. The price of gold is influenced by factors other than supply and demand. You should seek independent financial advice before acting on the above information.

Having said that: good call, RH

ObjectivistActivist
05-10-2008, 06:47 PM
The price of gold can rise and fall, but you can't print more gold to temporarily float an economy, at the cost of later, catastrophic inflation.

Gold backed currency is the most stable, most immune to inflation, and most representative of the actual value of an economy. The fiat system (described in all its horrible failure above) can never even begin to match the stability, honesty, and genius of the gold-backed currency system.

I like you RH. Kudos. I had a friend from another forum ask me about this a few days ago, but I didn't have the benefit of your linked examples to help the explanation.

Mr.FixIt
05-10-2008, 07:52 PM
Blame it on YouTube, TV, movies, or music, if you will, but in my opinion it's much deeper than that, and it all started a long time before all of the technology came around.

It started during WW2. When all of the men were off fighting a war and all of the women took factory jobs to support the effort and support their families. When this happened, the workforce doubled. It's simple supply and demand. When the supply increases the demand decreases, and so do the salaries. Now we're at a point where both partners (parents) must work to survive (or do they?), and the children are left alone, to suffer and fend for themselves. And who is the babysitter?--YouTube, TV, movies, and music!

Don't blame the technology, blame the parents! But if both partners don't work, how else are they to afford the two or three car payments, the ridiculously oversized house payments, and of course, child support and alimony payments from their previous families?

The answer is simple. BOTH parents should NOT work. I don't care if it's the woman or the man (or whomever) that stays at home, but SOMEONE SHOULD BE AT HOME FOR THE KIDS!

But how do I pay for my stupidly large home and my three new cars?--YOU DON'T!

Rent a home that you can afford, buy used cars (with cash), don't finance jewelry (tattoos are cheaper and better anyway), and college is overrated (but if you must, a local junior college is just as good!).

If you disagree with me, then Bank of America, American Express, and MasterCard own your children-----But keep on blaming YouTube when you make your next Lexus payment if it makes you feel better!

I originally posted this in response to a thread that asked basically, "What's wrong with kids today?"

I think that this applies here also. In fact, isn't this the explanation for everything that's wrong in the world? If we didn't insist on living above our means, and if we didn't rely on someone else (foreign oil, government programs, or credit) to solve our problems, wouldn't this be a different world that we live in?

The problem is that we WANT more than we can AFFORD, and we will do anything to get what we want (individually, in business, democracy, etc.).

So how can we change this downward spiral of society? Easy--you can personally stop spending more than you earn. DUH!!!!!!!!

MMI
05-11-2008, 03:40 PM
You can't print more gold, but you can mine more, and release more onto the market if you want to undermine the price of gold. Likewise, you can restrict the supply of gold by mining less, forcing the price to rise.

That's just as good as printing more money: no - it's better. And it is already being done. The major gold producers limit the amounts of gold they produce to meet their economic and political requirements (or those of their masters).

Rational Head
05-20-2008, 04:44 PM
That's just as good as printing more money: no - it's better. And it is already being done. The major gold producers limit the amounts of gold they produce to meet their economic and political requirements (or those of their masters).

First of all, sorry for this late response (I was busy).

Now about the objection on gold as currency...

First of all the question is conspiratorial. Yes, by dumping more gold into the market gold prices can be brought down, gold being a single fungible commodity, its prices can be easily adjusted.

Take for example, today there is 100 tonnes of gold into the market. So all the prices are adjusted to that. a laptop can be bought for 1 KG of gold. Now tomorrow if someone brings another 100 tonnes of gold into the market, the prices will be readjusted the new value of gold. Yeah the prices will rise, but then now everybody has an incentive to save their gold.
People will start holding back their gold since the prices are high this literally means some amount of gold is pulled back from the market(so some gold is dumped and some is taken back as a reaction to this), when the gold is distributed across the market(basically when your salary increases because there is more gold into the market) you will start spending at the regular rate. In numerical terms if the gold supply rises at 2% per year, and economy grows at 4% per year, then the investors and share holders will adjust the prices by 2%(less).
Similarly if gold supply rises at 4% per year and economy grows only at 2% per year, then the people will bring up the prices by 2%.

Every ounce of gold you have now fetches more, and you work and give more to earn an ounce of gold.
So you start working in terms of half ounces.
Main difference between fiat currency and gold currency inflation would be that information travel will be much faster.
There is no single opaque entity to decide how much to expand the money supply rather now numerous people digg up gold or save/consume gold. The information propagation about the quantity of gold is much faster.

If tomorrow govt declares that they are doubling the money supply overnight,on Television channel, everyone will immediately double their prices, thereby effectively neutralizing the govt's expansion of money supply. Govt won't be able to buy anything more now.

In terms of gold, if 1000 more tonnes of gold is discovered and as soon as people find it out, they double their prices and salaries. They don't wait till they start earning double to spend double.
So that laptop I wanted to buy is immediately now for 2KGs of gold. It doesn't matter whether I have that gold or not. I would simply wait till my salary reflects the extra gold in the market and then I go and buy the comp.
Now coming to artificially restricting the gold supply. Well first of all Gold is not like Oil, if there is less gold(prices are higher) then people will use less gold. Unlike in oil where its very difficult to reduce oil consumption.

Secondly, to restrict the gold supply you will have to form a cartel of gold producers, very difficult in free market.

So when gold prices will rise, the first reaction of people would be to bring out their gold savings. I will sell my mom's old jewellery now because it fetches me good value.
Once all the gold savings are out, and the prices still continue to rise then people will merely adjust their values and salaries accordingly.
Instead of getting 1Kg of gold in your paycheck, next year you will only get half kg of gold, then next year 250g of gold.
You are working the same, you are able to buy the same amount commodities, my rent has come down by half, my expenses are also half now(in terms of gold). I am spending half the amount of gold, but getting the same value.
That's just as good as printing more money: no - it's better.
This is not as "good or bad" as printing more money.
That's like saying oh having free market in cell phone services is the same as having govt's monopoly in telecom, because you pay the taxes and you get to use the telephone, and there you pay the monthly subscription fee and you get to use the telephone.
What the writer of that question fails to see is that gold currency represents privatization of currency. The unjust power to create wealth out of thin air is taken from the govt(and nobody is allowed to have it).
Now there is a competition in the free market. There are various sources of money supply(the gold diggers), just like no single country pumps out all its oil in one day or a month, no gold miner is going to do the same with his gold. Also, if any gold miner tries to hold back the gold production to raise the prices then it will be countered by the other gold miners who will now produce more.

If some day we run out of new gold, that means our gold supply is now restricted to a specific quantity, then all we have to do is follow a price drop rate every year, depending upon the economic growth that year.
So if economy grew by 10% last year that means every calculation about gold will now have to presume the weight of gold less by 10%.
So if you were accepting 1 KG of gold by your employer every month, now you will accept only 900 gms. Everything you pay for will now cost 10% less.

Rational Head
05-20-2008, 04:57 PM
In terms of gold, if 1000 more tonnes of gold is discovered and as soon as people find it out, they double their prices and salaries. They don't wait till they start earning double to spend double.
So that laptop I wanted to buy is immediately now for 2KGs of gold. It doesn't matter whether I have that gold or not. I would simply wait till my salary reflects the extra gold in the market and then I go and buy the comp.

I gave example of laptop there, which may again raise some questions because laptop is not a commodity which is sought desperately everyday.

Let's say, if I need one Kilogram of wheat flour or Rice to make food, I wont wait for my salary increase, I can't, I have to eat everyday until salaries are increased....?

So, what will happen for the daily usage commodities in times of such influx of extra gold?

Remember one thing, whenever there is a problem like this, this is a demand in the market to find a solution for this. And anyone who finds a solution to this problem/demand makes profit.

Basically you check the gold prices every day. If gold prices go up, you automatically get paid less salary, if gold prices go down, you are automatically paid more salary, at the same time, everything you buy has a higher price. The market will form a mechanism for this thing.

Rational Head
05-20-2008, 05:01 PM
I like you RH. Kudos. I had a friend from another forum ask me about this a few days ago, but I didn't have the benefit of your linked examples to help the explanation.

Thank you, objectivist.

Well, I am sure, there won't be a fiat currency in Galt's Gulch, there will be either gold or platinum, whatsoever, but independent of any interference from any collectivistic or governmental force.

Rational Head
05-20-2008, 05:07 PM
Especially for MMI

I would like to ask you a simple question.

what were you talking about when you commented "major gold manufacturers limit gold supply".

Why do you even need to do that today? Govt is ALWAYS inflating the money supply, you will ALWAYS be getting more money for your gold.

There is no way to verify your claim. You can merely demonstrate, 5 years ago gold used to cost 100$ an ounce, now it costs 125$ an ounce,now this cannot be used to deduce that gold manufacturers have reduced their gold output by 25%.

What has the bigger chances? Government printed more dollars or gold suppliers pulled back on supply of gold? ?

Rational Head
05-20-2008, 05:20 PM
World's gold production trends
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Image:Gold_-_world_production_trend.svg

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gold_Anti-Trust_Action_Committee

Apparently there is only organization in the world which believes that Gold companies have formed a cartel and trying to manipulate the gold prices.