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Euryleia
05-13-2008, 05:53 PM
In February, a federal appeals court struck down a Texas law that makes it a crime to promote or sell sex toys.

The Texas law dates back to the 1970s and makes it illegal to sell, advertise, give or lend obscene devices, defined as a device used primarily for sexual stimulation. Anyone in possession of six or more sexual devices is considered to be promoting them.

The state wrote in their brief that Texas has legitimate "morality based" reasons for the laws, which include "discouraging prurient interests in autonomous sex and the pursuit of sexual gratification unrelated to procreation."

"Whatever one might think or believe about the use of these devices," said an opinion written by Justice Thomas M. Reavley of the 5th U.S. Circuit Court of Appeals in New Orleans, "government interference with their personal and private use violates the Constitution."

The 2-1 opinion was based heavily on the U.S. Supreme Court's 2003 decision in Lawrence and Garner v. Texas, which struck down a Texas law prohibiting private consensual sex among people of the same sex.

That case established a broad constitutional right to sexual privacy and overturned sodomy laws across the country.

The Lawrence case didn't just say that gay sex couldn't be criminalized. It said that people have the right to engage in consensual intimate conduct in their home, free from government intrusion. It said that the fact that the State doesn't happen to like a particular kind of sex doesn't mean they have a right to ban it, or indeed to have any say in it at all.

But the Texas sex toy case, Reliable Consultants and PHE v. Texas, makes it clear that Lawrence has even broader implications than just gay rights. It has implications for everyone: sadomasochists, fetishists, swingers and any other sexual minority you can think of.

If you're any of those things... you now have a legal right to it, anywhere in the country. And that's pretty darned important for all those custody rights and housing rights and employment rights. It may wind up having implications for porn laws; if our right to sexual privacy means we can have vibrators, it should mean we have a right to dirty movies as well.

Of course, Texas could appeal to the US Supreme Court and make it all moot. Until then, shouldn't there be celebrations? What are your thoughts?

A couple of links:
The Austin American Statesman (http://www.statesman.com/news/content/news/stories/local/02/14/0214sextoys.html)

the-texas-dildo-massacre-or-reason-number-2767-why-gay-rights-matter-to-everyone (http://blog.blowfish.com/culture/the-texas-dildo-massacre-or-reason-number-2767-why-gay-rights-matter-to-everyone/569)

Alex Bragi
05-13-2008, 06:22 PM
I think that’s interesting, Euryleia. Here in Australia, I don’t believe we’ve ever had any kind of laws banning the sale or use of sex toys, so it surprises me that as recently as the 1970’s such laws were constituted in Texas.

I must admit, I had little snigger when I read this: “The state wrote in their brief that Texas has legitimate "morality based" reasons for the laws, which include "discouraging prurient interests in autonomous sex and the pursuit of sexual gratification unrelated to procreation."” It sounds, to me, like something you’d... well, ok, maybe not you specifically, but someone might read on a Mormon website. *gg* (Like the title you gave this thread too.)


If you're any of those things... you now have a legal right to it, anywhere in the country. And that's pretty darned important for all those custody rights and housing rights and employment rights. It may wind up having implications for porn laws; if our right to sexual privacy means we can have vibrators, it should mean we have a right to dirty movies as well.
Damned right!

Should there be celebrations? Sure, how about one bit hot and wet orgy?

More seriously, I guess there’s always going to have to be a line drawn in the sand, and that line isn’t always going to be where everyone wants it. Particularly where sex and porn are concerned there are always going to be vast grey areas.

Borgs_slave
06-08-2008, 05:48 PM
In NC sex toys aren't banned but oral and anal are "crimes of nature". We have some other silly sex laws that must have been made when there was nothing else to do. Amazing how the politicians in this state are the ones getting caught doing this things. Some politicians really need to get out more.

denuseri
06-08-2008, 06:50 PM
mabey all the people that own a vibrator or dildo in texas should have a buzz, er sit in, winks,,

stripedangel
06-18-2008, 12:33 PM
OMGOMGOMG!! i had no idea why that girl was ticketed for the 9 vibes in her car's trunk.

REEEALLY, i can be more free? wow.

stripedangel
06-18-2008, 12:37 PM
THAAAAAAANKS Euryleia!!


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