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Coral
12-09-2002, 02:24 AM
Could someone please enlighten me where I can get more information on female vacuum pumping? I have tried search engines and have not had the results I require.

I need to have as much information as possible as soon as possible. Please help!

veru_skjava
12-09-2002, 05:49 AM
Hi Coral,

Sorry, I may just need more coffee, do you wnat this for breasts? super strong like millie uses in her pics? or just over the counter pharmacy type items?

I love to design and redesign, and have had success with playfully redesigning the evenflow automatic (well I started with the manual as it is cheaper) breast feeding ds/ac operated model.

Looking forward to seeing this thread develop.

veru skjava

Coral
12-09-2002, 07:29 AM
Thanks for your reply, I was interested in clitoral vacuum pumping in particular. I have found out some information, but I need some links to expand my knowledge base further. It is a task that has been set for me by my Master.

BDSM_Tourguide
12-09-2002, 08:09 AM
Your qaestion seems to have come at an inoportune time. I could have given you a link to an entire page full of knowledge on the subject, but the site I used to use seems to have gone away.

I will look around a little bit for you today and see what I can find. I bet I can come up with something.

Do I get a tasty treat if I do? ;)

BDSM_Tourguide
12-09-2002, 08:24 AM
Here is a link that might help you: http://bme.freeq.com/extreme/free/cmhurt/femvp.html

If I find more, I will let you know.

Coral
12-09-2002, 08:29 AM
Thanks Tourguide, much appreciated!

May I be as so bold to ask, is it something that you have tried?

Coral

BDSM_Tourguide
12-09-2002, 09:02 AM
... tried suction or pumping. I really don't know enough about it to say whether I would like it or not.

My wife, however, has seen it done to an extreme level at a BDSM play party. She might be able to relate her experience to you better than me, as I was not there. I'll tell her to have a look at this thread when she wakes up.

Finding_Fantasy
12-09-2002, 04:29 PM
No need, I beat ya too it, master dear.

Yes, I saw it at a BDSM meeting where people were displaying their favorite techniques, and the suction play I saw gave me the heebie jeebies. Basically what he did was he had a bunch of small, round conelike glasses with a small hole on the top. He placed about half a dozen on her back and then attached a hose which led to a machine that was basically a small vacuum cleaner. It sucked her skin up into the cup, and I swear, I'm not lying, probably raised it a could two to rwo and a half inches off her body. Unfortunately, a few places where the skin wasn't as thick, the skin broke and caused a good deal of bleeding. The submissive didn't seem to mind but it turned me off ever wanting to try it.

The other things I saw were equally shock worthy, at least to me seeing as I was still very new at the whole thing. I saw scarification, a man blow darts into a woman's butt and back then pick them out with a bullwhip (shudders) as well as a woman who had 6 needles poked stright through each of her nipples (no way). I also say a male submissive and his male dominant. The dominant likes to attach a bowling ball to his submissive's testicles and swing it....and the submissive enjoyed it. Like I said, it was very shocking to me. I had seen that sort of things in pictures online, but when you see it in person it is completely different.

Coral
12-15-2002, 12:58 PM
It is not something that I have tried, but Sir has requested I obtain as much information as possible on th subject. Can anyone suggest where a pump suitable for the purpose can be bought in the U.K.? Online or shops, all advice welcomed!

Coral

BDSM_Tourguide
12-15-2002, 03:09 PM
Any of the following links contain products on suction and pumping (also known as cupping).

http://adulttoychest.com/store/ProdOMCP0005.hmx?UID=28255%2D1039988953%2D15871&CID=&RID=&lindex=!SE0379-1!SP0001!OMCP0005!WC002!WC004!WC001!1080327!KI-3421!855!853!857!852!851!RIMBA860!850!856!854!Rim2 61-1!Rimba281!KI-3422!WC003!KI-3430!NW11589!BV-01006!Rim267!1080326!Dj153600!SPEC0001!DW245!SPC00 01!KI-3425!RIMBA792!DW220!KI-3433!BAG001!ME520675!SE265500!KI-3267!DW128!&thisprod=2&pmax=38&bdid=Medical&dname=Medical+Fetish#TPROD

http://adulttoychest.com/store/ProdME520675.hmx?UID=28255%2D1039988953%2D15871&CID=&RID=&lindex=!SE0379-1!SP0001!OMCP0005!WC002!WC004!WC001!1080327!KI-3421!855!853!857!852!851!RIMBA860!850!856!854!Rim2 61-1!Rimba281!KI-3422!WC003!KI-3430!NW11589!BV-01006!Rim267!1080326!Dj153600!SPEC0001!DW245!SPC00 01!KI-3425!RIMBA792!DW220!KI-3433!BAG001!ME520675!SE265500!KI-3267!DW128!&thisprod=35&pmax=38&bdid=Medical&dname=Medical+Fetish#TPROD

http://adulttoychest.com/store/ProdTS0494.hmx?UID=28255%2D1039988953%2D15871&CID=&RID=&lindex=!WJC0005!SE0379-1!SE05581!SP0001!BondageT!HBR0001!Rimba240!OMCP000 5!WC002!WC004!WC001!855!853!857!852!851!RIMBA860!8 50!856!854!Rim261-1!Rimba281!GRSG0005!DJ203001!NP12425!pd013!KEG2000 !WC003!ME521213!DJ166103!Rim267!TS0494!LV708!DW245 !SPEC0001!ME5256!SPC0001!ME525642!RIMBA792!CJ-1300!RE20100!TongueJo!NP7624!BAG001!NC20022!ME5206 75!DW128!&thisprod=31&pmax=46&bdid=010J&dname=Unique+Sensations#TPROD

There are so many more than this, though. Comparison shop, if at all possible. I recommend something simple and straightforward:


[list=1]
Go to http://www.altavista.com
To the right of the search box, you will see a link that says family filter: on. Click it to turn the family filter off.
In the search field, type ADULT TOYS, BONDAGE GEAR or FETISH TOYS
Click the search button
[/list=1]

You will probably get about 65,000,000 results from any of these searches, mostly for porn sites. The featured sites (the ones listed first on the search pages that come up) will be your bondage/fetish gear sellers.

Definitely compare prices!

bunnyrabbit48
12-25-2002, 02:19 AM
Yes, I saw it at a BDSM meeting where people were displaying their favorite techniques, and the suction play I saw gave me the heebie jeebies. Basically what he did was he had a bunch of small, round conelike glasses with a small hole on the top. He placed about half a dozen on her back and then attached a hose which led to a machine that was basically a small vacuum cleaner. It sucked her skin up into the cup, and I swear, I'm not lying, probably raised it a could two to rwo and a half inches off her body. Unfortunately, a few places where the skin wasn't as thick, the skin broke and caused a good deal of bleeding. The submissive didn't seem to mind but it turned me off ever wanting to try it.

The other things I saw were equally shock worthy, at least to me seeing as I was still very new at the whole thing. I saw scarification, a man blow darts into a woman's butt and back then pick them out with a bullwhip (shudders) as well as a woman who had 6 needles poked stright through each of her nipples (no way). I also say a male submissive and his male dominant. The dominant likes to attach a bowling ball to his submissive's testicles and swing it....and the submissive enjoyed it. Like I said, it was very shocking to me. I had seen that sort of things in pictures online, but when you see it in person it is completely different.

Holly Molly, you don't mind me asking, where exactly this you see this? Also, is it a show a BDSM club, a party, if there is such a gathering again, I wouldn't mind flying down to join it. Let me know.

bunnyrabbit48
12-25-2002, 02:22 AM
Originally posted by BDSM_Tourguide
Here is a link that might help you: http://bme.freeq.com/extreme/free/cmhurt/femvp.html


Small world. Cynthia is the co-ordinator of my organization, Threshold. She owns CM hurt down in Garden Grove, CA. She's very good, I've seen her demo a few times.

Finding_Fantasy
12-25-2002, 09:20 AM
Well, I no longer live there. That was when I was living in Houston Texas but I am now back up in Canada... in a small town where there is nothing like that for at least 300 miles. It was an HPEP meeting (Houston People Exchanging Power) and not every meeting was like that. I think they meet the first wednesday of every month but I can't remember. It's been at least 2 or more years since I have been there. Mostly they talked about up coming events like the BDSM ball they have every year.

bunnyrabbit48
12-25-2002, 05:03 PM
I would never give up that kind of party for anything (I am a party animal). But I never heard of this HPEP before. I heard of Different Strokes & SAADE, in TX, but not HPEP.

I attended a lot of those parties, they are really wild, just when I said to myself "I've seen it before", there is always some new tricks from another fellow members in those parties that I haven't seen. why won't you give up all these to a small town in the middle of nowhere?

Finding_Fantasy
12-27-2002, 11:34 AM
It all has to do with immigration. I unkowingly overstayed my welcome and when I tried to return to the states after visiting my family here in Canada where I was born and raised, they told me "Sorry, can't come back for 10 years".

All the really amtters is that my master and I were physically apart for almost a year but he moved up to Canada to be with me. *shrugs* Besides, I don't need all those parties. Never was one for "parties"

Granted it is hard to live the lifestyle in such a small community where everyone likes to know everyone else's business, but I consider myself luck for the little bit that we do have.

bunnyrabbit48
12-27-2002, 01:54 PM
Originally posted by Finding_Fantasy
[B]It all has to do with immigration. I unkowingly overstayed my welcome and when I tried to return to the states after visiting my family here in Canada where I was born and raised, they told me "Sorry, can't come back for 10 years".


what? I never heard of this before. That doesn't make sense. If you were born in Canada, and you live in US, and you want to come back, all you need is to get married with your master, get married in Canada and moved back to US. Once you have a marriage certificate, that's all it takes.

This 10 yr. business, doesn't make sense. Why 10 yr.?

BDSM_Tourguide
12-27-2002, 06:50 PM
The days of marrying someone to immigrate died in the 70s in the USA. Now, you CAN marry someone, but they still have to apply for immigrant status and you have to sponsor them as their spouse. We're basically doing the same thing here in Canada right now. I just have to take a short trip out of the country to renew my status.

The thing is, though, she was banned from the States for staying longer than she was allowed on a visitor's visa. I didn't know that they would ban someone for that, but I guess they would. I am definitely hoping Canada is less strict about these sorts of policies, as I would like to see my wife again before my child enters grade school.

Actually, I would like to see my child born. That would be a very nice experience for me.

bunnyrabbit48
12-28-2002, 01:31 AM
when you take that short trip, find a state that a senator or congressman can help you. Just tell them exactly what happened. Call them first before you fly back to book an appointment. It doesn't has to be the state you were first living in.

If they can approved a dead terrorist immigration student VISA, then surely there is some flexibility on something like this.

Just tell them you are now married & having babies, and tell them you would both moved back to USA.

Stay in a nosy small town out of nowhere is not ideal. How did you two get stuck in a small town anyway? Why not stay at Vancouver or Toronto in the first place? I went to Vancouver on a few BDSM events, huge dungeon, it's very good, it's a big town, things are cheaper than a small town where everything is jack up several times the price tag. Toronto has huge BDSM event too, but that's one city I haven't try out for BDSM functions.

veru_skjava
12-28-2002, 04:28 AM
I know that the INS can be a pretty grumpy bunch of people.

My brother in law is from Spain. When they were married He was here on a work visa, and because they got married according to the traditions of the Catholic church the timing of the wedding was a few weeks shy of the visa running out.

The INS was freaky, acting like the marriage was some sort of scam, but thankfully the Church heirarchy was more than willing to speak on their behalf.

I find it unsettling though that your wife has had the full extent of the law placed on her when so many illegal immigrants are given opportunities to become "legal."

As bunnyrabbit suggested, I would definetely contact a Senator or Congressman. Let them know you are a registered voter, and are being forced to leave the USA to be a family, that will get attention.

My best wishes will be with you, especially that you will be able to see your child born!

veru skjava

Finding_Fantasy
12-28-2002, 10:53 AM
This town is where I grew up. My entire family is here from my parents to my granparents and also my brother and his family. Plus, I would rather live here than in some smoggy, noisy, crime filled city. If you have ever seen my home town you would understand what I mean. It's beautiful here. Right in the heart of the Canadian Rockies. From my parents front yard you have to look straight up to see the tops of the mountains and, in the right conditions, the aurora borialis (spelling?) is awesome.

Neither BDSM Tourguide nor myself are "party animals". Granted, yes it would be nice to be able to have people to relate to, who are interested in the lifestyle, but we can do fine even if it is just he and myself. We are willing to make sacrifices in order to have other ties other than just ones related to BDSM. If we really want to se the scene, we can take day trips to the city 3 hours away.

However, for right now, we are where we want to be for the most part. I especially want to be here close to my family since I am going to have our first child and I can be around people I know are going to be supportive and who have had children in the last few years.

As for the states, well neither of us is too anxious to go back there, to be quite frank. We prefer Canada over the USA for reasons that you probaboy would not understand unless you have actually lived here for an extended period of time. I, myself, didn;t even realize what this place had to offer until I came back after a year.

What I am trying to say is thatjust because it is a small town, don't knock it. We are not completely driven by the lifestyle. There are other concerns that we have to look at, like our child being able to see his/her grandparents, uncles, aunts, great grandparetns and what not.

In my opinion, living in the USA is not all it is cracked up to be. I say this from having lived there for a while. Though I won't go into the specifics of it all since this is a BDSM forum, and not a "my country is better than your country" debate forum.

I will say this though. I AM CANADIAN and I am damned proud of it

veru_skjava
12-28-2002, 11:04 AM
Fantasy,
Well said! I do not see the need to live where we are able to be involoved in the "scene" it is very nice to know of places capable of being driven to to participate, but home is home.

What happens between us as a couple is, well between us.

Like yourself, I live in a small town, in the smallest state in the USA, though i have enjoyed living in the city at various parts of my life, I could not trade the enjoyment of what "home" has to offer.

Wow, the aurora borialis and the rockies, hmmmmmmm indeed it certainly sounds delightful. Maybe I will be lucky enough someday to visit such a pleasant place.

veru skjava

Finding_Fantasy
12-28-2002, 11:12 AM
If you ever have the opportunity to come up here, we would be more than happy to show you around. We live a stone's trow away from a national park and I could show you stuff around here that would take your breath away..thngs that only a local would know of. :)

bunnyrabbit48
12-30-2002, 12:19 AM
I am not saying USA is a better country. And after Sept 11, 2001, in some part of USA, you really don't want to live there.

However, it is unfair the way you are being treated, just because you stayed over a bit longer. I mean, not allowing anyone to come into a country for 10 yr. is a very serious statement.

Unless you delayed departure just happened after Sept 11, 2001, then I can see Immigration dept. just panic and be very strict about it to you and most likely to everyone after Sept 11, 2001.

Finding_Fantasy
12-30-2002, 01:56 AM
Nope. Came back in September of 2000 about a year before 9-11. The thing is...if the customs and immigration person you are dealing with doesn't like you or is having a bad day, they can deny you and they don't have to tell you why either. I found out the hard way. And once you are rejected, good luck trying a second time because it is all in the computer.

bunnyrabbit48
12-30-2002, 02:25 AM
I agree. Custom assholes from anywhere, any country are all like that. Regardless, I would appeal this one way or the other.

Finding_Fantasy
12-30-2002, 05:21 AM
Since we have made plans here to open our own business, since our idea is a sound one, and would do well here, we are going to stick around. At least for a while. I really don't have a need to go down to the states and once BDSM_Tourguide gets his visa for here, he can travel between the states and Canada all he wants. That's enough for us, for now.

Besides, appealing takes money and on a minimum wage, single income budget, that's impossible.

Mobius
12-31-2002, 05:58 PM
To Imagration. Talk about 6 degrees of Keven Bacon.

Back to Pumping. I have seen it done on Insex quite a bit
The Sub did not seem to happy but she was not screeming either.

I would not know, But it seemed that the feeling went away after a while.

bunnyrabbit48
01-01-2003, 01:46 AM
How's the quality of those 320 x 200 or 640x 480 real player viewing from Real sex? And how long are those movies and what else can you tell me about those RM movies?

Mobius
01-01-2003, 03:02 AM
Originally posted by bunnyrabbit48
How's the quality of those 320 x 200 or 640x 480 real player viewing from Real sex? And how long are those movies and what else can you tell me about those RM movies?

I have downloaded Excellent DSL/Cable modem Versions
and have downloaded choppy 56k versions.
Both are very watchable.

I have seen movies up to 90mins in lenth.

I have quite an archive with almost all of the subs on there.
Insex is very expencive to watch directly I think they are up to
$60 bucks a month
So I wait for them to be uploaded to alt.binaries.erotica.torture
and download them with agent.
:) Resonable small download about 5 mb
will give you about 60 mins
if you have broadband it is not a prob

BDSM_Tourguide
01-01-2003, 03:03 AM
... people really PAY to watch porn off a website. Boggles my mind.

I am definitely in the wrong line of work.

I need to make friends with a programmer and two town sluts. I could make it rich in no time.

bunnyrabbit48
01-01-2003, 03:14 AM
Insex is very expencive to watch directly I think they are up to
$60 bucks a month

it's actually $69/month but if you pay 3 mth. you get a better deal/month






I couldn't find such newsgroup, there is:
alt.alt.binaries.erotica.torture

then there is:

alt.binaries.pictures.erotica.torture

check you re-check the exact typing and let me know, thanks.

Those 5 MB download gets your 1 hr. thing, how did they save that file in realplayer format?

bunnyrabbit48
01-01-2003, 03:19 AM
Originally posted by BDSM_Tourguide
... people really PAY to watch porn off a website. Boggles my mind.

I am definitely in the wrong line of work.

I need to make friends with a programmer and two town sluts. I could make it rich in no time.

if you watch playboy chnl.,(sexcerta) they showed couples allowed live camera to zoom in when they have sex, the couples in that live amateur web site just to let people watch them, each couple made US$3 - 4 million per year.

That's not all, all the web sites shown with the people made money, the lowest is US$2000 per month just to have people download JPG on her web site, and that's a noone web site (it's one of the rather old playboy playmate web site, she's in her 40's). Porn is a multi-billion dollars business.

Mobius
01-01-2003, 04:19 AM
Originally posted by bunnyrabbit48


I couldn't find such newsgroup, there is:
alt.alt.binaries.erotica.torture

then there is:

alt.binaries.pictures.erotica.torture

check you re-check the exact typing and let me know, thanks.

Those 5 MB download gets your 1 hr. thing, how did they save that file in realplayer format?
Sorry It is actuly
Alt.binaries.pictures.erotica.torture
I have also seen them on Alt.binaries.movies.erotica
These are in win rar file format you will need smart par
and win.rar to download.
Highly reccomend Agent to download
automates the process greatly
also the file size i quoted was wrong
it is closser to 137mb for about an hour and 22 min

bunnyrabbit48
01-02-2003, 06:51 PM
Originally posted by bbeale7

Sorry It is actuly
Alt.binaries.pictures.erotica.torture
I have also seen them on Alt.binaries.movies.erotica
These are in win rar file format you will need smart par
and win.rar to download.
Highly reccomend Agent to download
automates the process greatly
also the file size i quoted was wrong
it is closser to 137mb for about an hour and 22 min

thanks. I'm using agent.

A few things: www.hogtied.com is cheaper and has very similar action, just as intense and many models are the same as insex.

I try to download RM or RAR files before. How did you manage to get 137 MB of RAR, usually there are a lot of missing parts from any upload, so in the end, even with 1 part missing, it is useless. Let me know please.

Mobius
01-02-2003, 08:51 PM
Originally posted by bunnyrabbit48


thanks. I'm using agent.

A few things: www.hogtied.com is cheaper and has very similar action, just as intense and many models are the same as insex.

I try to download RM or RAR files before. How did you manage to get 137 MB of RAR, usually there are a lot of missing parts from any upload, so in the end, even with 1 part missing, it is useless. Let me know please.

I use attbroad band and there news server is very bad
very offen allot of rar files are missing.
Most posters will post over 1,2 3 and even 4 days
You have to catch it so you get a complete post of the first part.
you need to look in the field in the header that will start with 1/x
and then it will have an ending of x/what ever
Even if you do not get it all. you will get 90%.
Just check the box in winrar at the very bottom when you are extracting the file it will keep the file even if it is not complete.

Also look for the Par files with smart par you can offen recover lost rar files as long as you have the begining and the end.
it is clumsy but it works a 137mb rar file will yeald 1hr 22min of dsl quality
and there are also full lengh erotic movies in mpg avi and wmv file format
that work well
here is a web site with all of the information
http://www.smr-usenet.com

also it pays to have a good news feed server
it is a pain to have to pay 16dollors a month for about 16gb
but the files are allways complete and not cencerd at all
:cool:

Mobius
01-02-2003, 09:00 PM
look hot, but at $29 dollers a month it is still to pricy when
I can download massive amounts of this stuff with agent.
it is free if you call $39 bucks a month for cable assess free.:)

I guess I am just getting cheap in my old age.:mad:

bunnyrabbit48
01-03-2003, 03:13 AM
here is a web site with all of the information
http://www.smr-usenet.com

Thanks for the info. I'll dig around in this web site.



also it pays to have a good news feed server
it is a pain to have to pay 16dollors a month for about 16gb
but the files are allways complete and not cencerd at all

really? $16/mth., I'll have to really think about that one. Who's is it? My ISP get some if not most portion of these files, but rarely completed. If there is a ISp that good, let me know, I'll check it out.

Mobius
01-03-2003, 06:31 AM
Originally posted by bunnyrabbit48


really? $16/mth., I'll have to really think about that one. Who's is it? My ISP get some if not most portion of these files, but rarely completed. If there is a ISp that good, let me know, I'll check it out.

No you keep your org ISP. What I was saying is you use a pay news feed like giganews.
I did for a while then I learned to live with the censord dribble that comes from att broad band.
http://www.giganews.com

It is worth while if you want to download large files
of First run movies some times before they are out at the theater.
Tons of Porn of all flavors Movies and so on. Applications etc.
(Illegal) But it is done often
It is also a way for your isp not to be able to track where you are going in the news service. If your ISP limits the amount you can down load in there fair use notice. This gets around it becouse you are not using there server.
Oh I was wrong on the price for 16gb it is $29.95
It is to rich for my blood but it was fun when I tried it.
you can set agent up to use there service just change
the news server from your isp to
news-central.giganews.com
they allow a one week triel
it is one of many censor free news servers

bunnyrabbit48
01-04-2003, 05:59 AM
There used to be a lot of those free news server, with high bandwidth, now most of them become fee based, and the free one are very slow.

Thanks for the reply, I'll check it out.

Mobius
02-13-2003, 02:05 PM
Originally posted by Coral
Could someone please enlighten me where I can get more information on female vacuum pumping? I have tried search engines and have not had the results I require.

I need to have as much information as possible as soon as possible. Please help!

I have seen it done in the news groups here is some pics:)
Dosn't that look like fun:confused:

myri_SN
07-04-2004, 08:50 AM
drools :D :o