24/7 v. TPE

[leah06]

Why are the terms 24/7 and TPE sometimes used interchangably? I sometimes see this in general usage, and then on some alternative dating sites they are the same category.

Can't you want to be submissive all the time within a relationship, as opposed to, say, only in the bedroom, or only when you have your special bracelet on, but still not want a total power exchange? So wouldn't that still be 24/7?

If you did want to be submissive within the whole relationship, but didn't want a TPE, how would you indicate that?

Thanks.

[sadiej]

I have seen terms like 24/7 and TPE used interchangeably like submissive and slave. it is a bit confusing. I think that what is most important is the precise communication of what these terms mean within YOUR D/s relationship.

I see the ability to communicate openly, honestly any expectations and needs within your relationship with your Dom as being more important than what the "others" in the BDSM world think.

I truly believe that each D/s realtionship has it's own, unique look and connection to it. Like a fingerprint. No two are exactly alike because the people and the needs within each relationship are a little different.

[Euryleia]

I don't use the two terms interchangeably for just the reasons you outlined.

I see TPE as something used exclusively for those who embrace Master/Mistress and slave relationships. Most D/s relationships, with a Dominant and submissive don't involved total power exchanges. They can be full-time, so those would be 24/7.

[rsjankowski]

as for both of these terms, i would assume one would mean or go hand in hand with the other, and it's definite that a tpe means anytime(24/7), but a person who will submit to her man 24/7 may have hard limits on even some of the simplest things,

total power means just that, you have total power over a person and even though it's given freely to you, the submissive will force herself to submit to something she may not want to just since she gave that power to you.

but a 24/7 just means she's available anytime you want her, not necesarilly how you want her.

i think that might make sense? hope it does? took a lot of thinking for it to even come out coherent.

[denuseri]

As some others have stated above, 24/7 has to do with the duration/amount of time that one is under the dominion of another and PE or power exchange has to do with the amount of control exerted while one is under the forementioned dominion.

Now TPE or total power exchange might sugest in most cases or imply that since the power exchange is in "total" that the time factor is also 24 hours a day 7 days a week.

Alltough that is not in fact the case in every relationship.

Some people are in TPE yet not in 24/7 and or vice versa or some combination of the two and not allways clearly defined.

Hence two different terms to describe time involved and level of power exchanged exist and are not allways mutally inclussive even if it seems that way to casual observation.

[Aibo]

Hello rachel06

First I'd say that denuseri came closest in her reply to my own view.

Since I would say that those who swap the terms 24/7 and TPE simply are sloppy.
Claiming that they got a 24/7 relationship is claimed by everyone and their aunt in some circles. But if you get to view them for some time, you find that they actually are not, or just by talking to them.
Its extremely rare in fact, hope they are happy with it, but I have my doubts on the psycological consequences over longer times. It would cause total dependency.

Now for TPE, thats actually more common, even for those who live their separate lives in different locations during the weeks, and only meet on weekends. It can still be TPE and it is.

So for your question rachel06:

Have to give the answer from my own perspective, but it might give some insight.
I am going to date someone next week, and she have already said that she dont want me to become her master and she dont even want to be collared.

So I have gotten a clear message where she indicated that she's not interested for neither 24/7 or TPE, and if it works out it might end up in some more easygoing deal of part time submission.

Other ways you can tell is to say that you like the ideas, but dont want to get into deep water yet, since you simply dont know.

Anyhow your question show you got a lot of common sense, even I would wonder about someone who would offer full time and total submission from the start.
Yes there are some who say so, but I do view that as a declaration of a long term goal, if all other parts of the relationship works out.

WBR
Aibo

[Misschief]

Let Me preface this by saying no offense intended.. I revel in the fact that there can be a free exchange of ideas here and respect E/each of Our rights to have them..



Since I would say that those who swap the terms 24/7 and TPE simply are sloppy. Claiming that they got a 24/7 relationship is claimed by everyone and their aunt in some circles. But if you get to view them for some time, you find that they actually are not, or just by talking to them. Its extremely rare in fact, hope they are happy with it, but I have my doubts on the psycological consequences over longer times. It would cause total dependency.

Sloppy is presuming 24/7 lifestyle D/s, (which goes hand-in-hand with TPE, in My opinion..) when practiced by truly devoted individuals would yield anything less than psychological dependence..In TPE, the Dominant party craves exactly that.. The submissive's desire to do any/everything without question comes from their inner need to please their Dominant.. That need does not manifest itself within the worthy sub without being 'properly manicured'..


Now for TPE, thats actually more common, even for those who live their separate lives in different locations during the weeks, and only meet on weekends. It can still be TPE and it is.

True TPE does not exist without long-term training.. Most of U/us masquerade as vanilla during normal working hours.. 24/7 is the fantasy.. A threat I use frequently when questioning a servant's sincerity..

Point being, O/one can be 24/7 AND leave the dungeon once in a while so long as when you are with Me, the aforementioned formalities are observed (holding doors, tying My shoes, hailing cabs, eyes down-cast, etc..) I believe 24/7 to be a state of mind..


Have to give the answer from my own perspective, but it might give some insight.
I am going to date someone next week, and she have already said that she dont want me to become her master and she dont even want to be collared.

So I have gotten a clear message where she indicated that she's not interested for neither 24/7 or TPE, and if it works out it might end up in some more easygoing deal of part time submission.

Not from My perspective.. This sub may in fact be interested in TPE but not in the reverent sense.. Perhaps she wants to be used as a toy and put away when her Top is through with her knowing she is one of many toys.. Some little ones need to know how filthy and unworthy they are.. Such encounters are not without appeal..


..even I would wonder about someone who would offer full time and total submission from the start.

I believe the contrast to be the more dubious offering..

As above, I enjoy discussing these topics as mature individuals, with no offense intended.. Thanks for Y/your attention..