"Figging" -- Beautiful Example of Pain Meeting Pleasure

[MistressMallory]

Okay.

So, I wasn't sure about this at first, it seemed a bit kinky for Me -- but my sub brought it to My attention and when she does that, I tend to listen/experiment with whatever she's brought up. Some of the best tricks I've learned are variants on things she's suggested or read about originally.

The premise of "figging" (a medieval form of torture, according to My sources) is to take a large hand of ginger root, peel it like a potato, shape it into a long, thin, rounded dildo-ish contraption and then (eek!) insert it into your partner's ass -- and leave it there. Supposedly, the site said where I read this, it creates a rather brilliant tingling sensation, then a burning, and then acts almost like an aphrodisiac and increases pleasure.

Hmm....sadistic, twisted, all-natural and potentially pleasure-inducing. Sounded good to me!

So a few hours ago I tied My Pet up (the best position I found for this was the legs-up-while-flat-on-back position....probably even better if you can get your sub's ankles near his/her ears), prepped her a little, let her listen to me preparing the ginger, smelling it, etc....and then popped the little thing in with not so much as a how-do-you-do.

The anticipation and the smell of the ginger already had her surprisingly wet, but it wasn't going into her pussy, so there was still a little shock when I inserted it. And then I just held it there, and let it work it's little ginger-rooty magic.

First couple of seconds, maybe even a minute, nothing. And then the squirming started, and the commentary on how it tingled...which led into the inevitable squeaking and whimpering when it started to burn. At this point I was using My hand to massage her clit, and since one of O/our rules is that she must always speak while I'm pleasuring her, I got a whole mouthful about how amazing the pain and pleasure combined were. Figuring she was starting to get a little to much pleasure and not enough owwie, I stopped touching her clit and pushed the ginger in further -- that got a beautiful result. Begging, pleading, close-to-tears wailing that I shouldn't move it and that I shouldn't push it in....just an all-around stunning effect.

I did this about three times before realizing I needed a thicker, longer piece of ginger to really get the effect I was looking for, and stopping the experiment. But that's not to say it didn't work.

So, just as an FYI, if anyone is looking for a creative way to torture/pleasure/discipline their sub, this is certainly one of the more surprising ones I've found.

Enjoy! ;)

[Ozme52]

Not medieval actually and more likely came into use, primarily in England with the opening of India and "fast" ships. And not actually a form of torture per se.

Figging is thought to be first used in corporal punishment. Because clenching down on an inserted finger of ginger increases the effects, it is an excellent disincentive against the clenching of buttocks during a caning.

(Some will claim it has to do with the showing of horses... but I like my version better.)

PS. Give the search a try. You'll find lots of conversations and theories. ;)

[denuseri]

lol For your submissive: welcome to the wonderful world of figging.

Oh btw did you try it on yourself first to see how you would tolerate it?

[MistressMallory]

denuseri:

I have not! Well played. I should have -- when we did electrostim (with an electric flyswatter, of all things) I swore I would not hit her with it until I had taken a hit from it (ironically I took a hit and she pulled out her safe word). But I really should be on the receiving end of this particular practice at least once.

Fail Domme.

*blush*

[Ozme52]

Why fail? There's no rule that says you must endure what you make your sub endure.

The only rule is that you must ensure a safe scene... and there are thousands of other subs who have proven figging is safe.

[fetishdj]

It is interesting, isn't it... some people have less of a response to it but most people have some pain when they try it.

[denuseri]

FYI people: I was not saying Mallory was a bad domme for not having tried it first.

Everyones reactions to different kinds of stimuli are basically unique preception wise when it comes to a lot of things (biological factors aside).

I was just curious as to weather or not she had tried it to see how she tolerated it for herself and I am in no way shape or form saying that to be a good dominant one must try anything first on themselves.

<<Imagines dominants all over squating on dildos while wearing a leash and whipping themselves for practice and lmfao

[MistressMallory]

LOL touche, good point. I can't even stand to think about penetrative sex (Ew. Gross. *shudder*), so frankly there are a lot of things I haven't tried on myself now that I think about it.

[Ozme52]

LOL touche, good point. I can't even stand to think about penetrative sex (Ew. Gross. *shudder*), so frankly there are a lot of things I haven't tried on myself now that I think about it.

Now you're just being a tease... ;)

[Jennifer Williams]

I have tried some things out on myself first, though my case is different Mallory; for me it would be impossible to "try out" half of what I do to my sub on myself...we don't have the same body parts ;):D

[FrgnSwtc]

I second Denu, welcome your sub to the figging experience...

There's pain sure, not intolerable and I can assure that it's excellent!!

[socal_dan]

Definitely, welcome to figging.

I did end up trying this once after getting into it with my ex... Personally, I'm of the group where it had very little effect. There was some tingling, but for the most part it was rather boring. Worth noting I tried this out of incredible curiousness and not the desire to try it before doing it.

She, however, reacted rather "pleasantly" to it.

I did things a little differently. Rather than tying my sub up I would either simply make her sit and watch, or take part in the preparation. Despite enjoying it, she wasn't ever exactly eager to start a figging session... I think having the freedom to get out of it before it started made the anticipation stronger, and imposed a sort of mental-bondage/submissiveness. Fi would often say the worst part was the sitting still and not-squirming during prep.

Also, a few other useful positions/ideas:

In pretty much any position, having the subject's legs together tends to increase pressure on the fig. I've been surprised by how many people who do anal play in general, that don't realize this.

Doggy style is pretty canonical for this. Supported or unsupported; unsupported gives your sub the opportunity to try and shy away from anything happening to them, squeezing down on the finger with already mentioned results.

Face down, flat, works pretty well for this also. This has the advantage that you can periodically squeeze your subs cheeks together to increase the effect.

Standing. It's my opinion that figging a subject works best if they're standing. There are so many things you can do standing that promote clenching that it's like an open ended array of ideas. Even simply standing up straight, properly, causes the buttocks to clench slightly... standing on your toes it's a natural reaction to tighten those muscles. You can also do anything that promotes the sub pushing their hips forward while standing, because you -have- to use said muscles for this; you can use something like a dresser (or lateral slat, if you have something like a horse that would work well and give you better access to the genitals if desired), the farther back his/her toes are from where the object they have to press against the tighter they have to clench. A wall also works for that, if you care to have your sub standing facing a wall -- however, a wall also works the other way. If you have them stand back against it, standing up straight the shoulders, butt, and heals should all touch the wall, if the finger protrudes enough to touch the wall that will help (so long as it's not in danger of completely entering). Protip: If your heels and shoulders are both against the wall, it's practically impossible not to use your ass to keep your hips off of it.

Also, standing with your feet angled outwards will increase pressure.

Hopefully that gives you some more ideas of how to have fun with this.

[Master?]

Has anyone used anything other than freshly peeled ginger?

[denuseri]

lol oh yeah...lots of different things can work, vix vapor rub, tiger balm, aquafresh toothpaste, tabasco suace, and one one occassion a jalapeano juice coated didlo.

[socal_dan]

There's a company that makes "lubes" that are made exactly for that also, some "chili rubs" and the such. I no longer have a link though.

[MistressMallory]

EEP @ the jalapeno-juice-coated dildo.

I mean, OW.

[fetishdj]

They used to use vinegar douches... I wonder if that (or lemon juice or something else acidic) would work...

Menthol seems to be a common one. In fact, Dens list seems to be split between things that contain menthol oil (toothpaste, vicks, tiger balm, deep heat) and things that contain spices (peppers, ginger root etc). How about somethign like garlic?

[denuseri]

Just remember to study up on it before you use it.

Some things are not all that safe in eaither duration or ammount or as easily tolerated, what might give one person a nice warm yet adorabely painful sensation may cuase blisters and a trip to the emergencey room for another.

[GenieInABottle]

Ahh....figging. I hurt just thinking about it.
I've had 2 figging experiences...and both were punishments. The first time, it was an online punishment. My Dom took great pleasure in watching me prepare the ginger...this was most likely his most favorite part about the punishment lol. Once I was able to carve the ginger finger down so I could slip it in, he waited a few minutes for the squirming to start...and then the lecture started. So, while he is reminding me of my mistakes, the tingling is going from barly there...to warm...to burning. I can't sit still...and I'm crying hysterically. Easily, the worst day ever.
Then, a few months ago...a ginger punishment was on the table yet again...but this time, the punishment would be in person. I knew what the day would bring, so to spice thing up a bit, I was blind-folded for this punishment....I was also tied, wrists to ankles, with the ropes attached to the headboard of the bed, all open and exposed to ginger and his sadistic mind. Same effects as last time, but I think because this was all in person, it felt much more intense. But really, just thinking about it gives me the chills...and if I never had to experience figging again, I wouldnt even dream of complaining!
(But of course, if you liked it..have fun doing it as often as you want lol)

[nawteeone]

If I may ask a question.....do you use any lube when figging? Or is the ginger moist enough to ah, go in on it's own OK? Just thinking that lube might take some of the sensation away, you know?

[denuseri]

lol That all depends on what exactly your using as a lube.

[MistressMallory]

W/we have never had to use lube -- if you use freshly peeled ginger, it's sorta moist and a little squishy, and you're able to shape it into a "finger like" butt-plug shape, making it easy to slide it in. I've definitely heard that lube (if it's not something like lemon juice as I think denuseri is suggesting LOL) totally destroys the sensation because it wicks away all of the nice gingery juices.

That's just what I've heard, of course.

[denuseri]

Well lemon juice certiantly hieghtens and heats some kinds of figging up all right lol.

[fetishdj]

With something like ginger root, if it does not fit just cut it a bit smaller. The point is not the size of the object (which is the issue with butt plugs and dildos and they often need lube...) but the chemical sensation and that will occur no matter how much you apply.

[nawteeone]

Oh my. So this morning i was introduced to figging, no lube (thanks for the help.....if lemon juice makes it worse, I am definitely keeping my mouth shut about that! ). Yowza. I kept thinking of all the people who claimed to have not felt anything, and all I have to say is: They must have teflon arses! lol. Wow. So of course it was torture, but man, oh man, it certainly heightened the senses in other areas.

[Whisperz]

my dom has never used figging before, but i have done a lot of reading on the subject and i've actually read in numerous places that using lube cuts the affect of the ginger. they say NOT to use it if you want the full experience...

[denuseri]

A little size play at the same time can actually really enhance the experience as well btw.

[13'sbadkitty]

and denu, as i have gotten jalepeno juice in my eye, all i can say is omfg!

[shydiver]

Just out of curiosity, what is "size play"?

[denuseri]

I allways understood it to be about making things fit that may be uncomfortable to accomadate up ones orifices.

[fetishdj]

I think it is, yes... progressively larger butt plugs and dildoes, with or without lube...

I think Denu is suggesting adding ginger root extract to the lube... in that case, I would give the sub the choice: no lube or ginger lube? :)

[denuseri]

Or taking into acount what a big difference just a slight increase in the size of an object one must accomadate up ones butthole or cunt can make for the figging experience, especially when combined with certian forms of positional bondage etc.

[MistressMallory]

Denu -- that gives Me a rather twisted idea -- the larger an object inserted into the pussy, the more likely the penetratee is to clench the muscles of their ass/asshole and the more likely the wall of flesh between the vagina and asshole is to become smaller. Hence more sensation from the ginger....

W/we've been playing with an oversized cucumber for size play (she can take a goodly amount) and I'm tempted to bring in the ginger as a secondary sensation to that...

[DomBob]

How long does the burning last after the ginger is removed?

I remember years ago a paper on chemical punishments. TigerBalm, Icy-Hot, Ben-Gay (hehe) were not recommended for the nether regions because there is no way to control the duration. Slather some menthol and he/she is in pain for 45 minutes.

I think Ginger is a better tool because I believe the pain stops a few minutes once it is removed.

I can tell you from personal experience - if you work with Jalapeño peppers the oil is nasty stuff. I working with some making poppers, I washed my hands carefully then urinated. After a few minutes I was very uncomfortable for the next few hours.

[DomBob]

Here are two scenes that can be used with figging:

A old wood kitchen chair is fitted with a long dildo or plug. Something that has lots of ridges or is imposing in length. The sub kneels in front of the chair with wrists tied to the back.

The Dom then makes a ritual of wiping the dildo with alcohol (bringing memories of doctors visits), putting on rubber gloves, preparing the fig and inserting it.

After a few minutes of silence the sub is lectured. Then a condom is put on the plug and then liberally coated with nice, cool lube.

Painful, burning rectum and large, cool dildo...

The Dom can then leave for a while if he thinks the sub will scratch their own itch while he is gone. Or he can ignore the sub waiting for the pleas and begging to be sufficient to let the sub impale them selves.

BJ Incentive:

Sub is put in kneeling position and fig is inserted. After a few minutes for the pain to build the dom puts on 2 condoms and informs the sub he/she will be sodomized only after working hard enough with their mouth. After enough effort, one condom is removed, lube applied and the fig is removed and replaced with a dildo or cock.

[FrgnSwtc]

Ok, I'm going to make a slight revision to my previous post on this forum.

Actually, I was made aware that ginger (can you believe the naivety?) comes in different types. Last night I was subjected to a stronger kind that the one I usually used.

The first one that I referred to is light yellow and has thick, dense fibers. The one that was used on me last night is less fibery and it's vibrant (and by that I mean fiery and cruel) yellow.

I'd like to think that I'm somewhat resistant to pain, I flinch a lot maybe, but very seldom cry from it. OMG!!! Not last night. My ass went first, at some points I really thought I was going to pass out. When it went on my clit, I broke down, got the trembling lower lip and finally the tears...

I really hope I can find the milder, enjoyable version of ginger in the market again. The thought of having to go through last night again makes me cringe in horror.

[DIXIE LASS]

Well.........don't keep us in suspense.......tell us the difference and how to acquire the really intense variety. I too have noticed a big difference depending on where I got it........and some of it isn't worth fooling with.......I'd like to know a supply source for the "passing out..........cringing in horror" kind.

[FrgnSwtc]

Well.........don't keep us in suspense.......tell us the difference and how to acquire the really intense variety. I too have noticed a big difference depending on where I got it........and some of it isn't worth fooling with.......I'd like to know a supply source for the "passing out..........cringing in horror" kind.

Well, the dreadful one was purchased at Ingles... Dumb luck I guess (very bad luck for me). No need to comb the Chinese market for that one.

[BadJustin]

My girl would love a good figging before we would go out. Sometimes I would leave the ginger in her pussy cause I loved to see her twitch and squirm in public, and know why she was that way.


Has anyone used anything other than freshly peeled ginger?

Tabasco sauce

[anna.kitty]

Master tried this with me today, after reading on this thread... i must say this is a favorite of mine too -giggles- though i am not sure if it is all that much of a punishment... but i would like to make a suggestion if i may...

try a bit of spanking and such to make your subbie clinch up while the ginger in inside of her/him makes the world blur a little ^^

[badlittleboy2467]

This IS a bit of sexy fun... if you are already big on anal stimulation, you may find it a bit tame, but still fun... equestrian people know it, as (rumor has it) they peel the ginger and shove it up a horse's ass, and the unpleasant (to them!) burning sensation causes them to lift their tails as they prace about, giving them a regal look... when I tried it, it was fun, although I had wished the burning sensation to be a bit more intense... but it is fun... get the ginger root at the grocery store in the vegetable section, peel it and cut notches in it... as the bare asshole squeezes in protest, it will cause the asshole to 'catch' the notches, preventing the expulsion of the ginger.... a very pleasant and all-natural sensation, completely safe and and fun... try it and have fun!

[Snark]

Has anyone tried a piece of fresh horseradish?