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Alex Anderson
05-21-2003, 12:44 AM
I was wondering, how do straight guys know if their penis is the average size? After watching a porn flick with my girlfriend, the porn actors having 14" dicks really crushed my self confidence. I was wondering if there is a way to increase a penis's size with some sort of machine/sleeve (I know there are pumps, but as soon as your dick comes out it doesent look so big anymore).

Are there ways to tell if your dick is a normal size, because when im soft i have to say im veryyyy short.

Sincerely, yet troubled
-Alex

BDSM_Tourguide
05-21-2003, 04:25 PM
Most men (like 98%) are about the same length, whether they look short or longer when flacid. Most men's cocks are about 4.5-6 inches in length.

When considering porn stars, remember that , just like breast augmentation, there are penile implants, too. Not to mentions surgeries to enhance the length. Very few people have more than an 8 inch cock naturally and I have never even seen a statistic for a natural 14 inch cock.

But if you work for a $14 Billion a year industry, I'm sure your bosses would make sure you were up to standards, too.

georgey
05-25-2003, 01:18 PM
Most men's cocks are about 4.5-6 inches in length.

I know that this is the oft-quoted statistic, but I must admit that I have never seen a 4.5 inch penis in my life, and that 8 inches is not that unusual...

Just my thoughts on the matter, I am sure many will disagree.

redEva
05-25-2003, 01:40 PM
i feel the same georgey, and i have not seen the tiny ones in my life either. i had, however, been fortunate enough to experience pleasure and pain of good 10 inches – so, although i vote for “Bigger the better” in real life 8 is just about right!

passenger
05-25-2003, 05:33 PM
...seems the truth will stay a mistery forever :D

BDSM_Tourguide
05-25-2003, 10:53 PM
Uh-huh... 8" eh?

I wonder if that is 8" by a man's standard or 8" by a woman's?

I can guarantee they are NOT that common.



Originally posted by georgey
I know that this is the oft-quoted statistic, but I must admit that I have never seen a 4.5 inch penis in my life, and that 8 inches is not that unusual...

Just my thoughts on the matter, I am sure many will disagree.

BDSM_Tourguide
05-25-2003, 11:01 PM
Ya know? I know it probably shouldn't matter to me, but something about this posts kind of irritates me. I'm not terribly sure about what it is, but it just seems like a shallow, self-involved view of the male anatomy to me.

I don't measure my penis. I don't care how long it is. I don't even care if I am average, above average or below average. The simple fact of the matter is: Most men that KNOW how to satisfy their women can do so perfectly well without even using their penises.

I don't subscribe to bigger is better. I don't subscribe to the theory of penis-envy. I think way too much importance is placed on the penis in the first place, just like WAY too much attention is placed on women's breasts. Bigger is not necessarily better in both cases. Let's face facts, the penis is just a blood-filled cylinder of muscle and breasts are just lumps of fat. What's so important about them?

However, a good mental fucking can be truly exciting and can set a great mood. In fact, as far as sex goes, I would place a hell of a lot more merit on imagination, speech and the mouth. Because, to me, the mouth can be FAR more satisfying to a woman sexually.



Originally posted by redEva
i feel the same georgey, and i have not seen the tiny ones in my life either. i had, however, been fortunate enough to experience pleasure and pain of good 10 inches – so, although i vote for “Bigger the better” in real life 8 is just about right!

georgey
05-26-2003, 07:03 AM
Tourguide, I did not place *any* value judgements on the measurements quoted in my previous posts, it was merely facts based on personal experience. Obviously, having only seen a limited number of cocks, this sample may be skewed. I will have to increase the sample size to decrease the error!

I'm sure woman and men use the same system of measurements: if anything, surely men are more likely to exaggerate?

Perhaps you might be a little insecure about this? :P

A nice-looking cock is better in any case...

BDSM_Tourguide
05-26-2003, 07:58 AM
Originally posted by georgey
Tourguide, I did not place *any* value judgements on the measurements quoted in my previous posts, it was merely facts based on personal experience. Obviously, having only seen a limited number of cocks, this sample may be skewed. I will have to increase the sample size to decrease the error!

I'm sure woman and men use the same system of measurements: if anything, surely men are more likely to exaggerate?

Yes, exactly. What a man tells you is eight inches is more likely to be four.


Perhaps you might be a little insecure about this? :P

No. Trust me. I could care less about dicks.


A nice-looking cock is better in any case...

I agree. Same as a nice looking pussy is better. And yes, there are some not-so-nice looking ones out there.

georgey
05-26-2003, 12:42 PM
Yes, exactly. What a man tells you is eight inches is more likely to be four.

When I say "personal experience", I actually mean experience lol. It's not about what a man tells you, its what he shows you! Not that I've seen loads of cocks in my short life time...

*tries to look innocent*

redEva
05-26-2003, 04:37 PM
georgey,

more i think about it - clear it gets - must be American thing, the average size i mean, most of my sample (well almost all of it -current one) originates in Europe. or maybe it is the inch vs. centimeter stuff *rubs her head*

passenger
05-26-2003, 05:05 PM
Yes, the centimeter-inch stuff is disturbing! Multiplying cm with 2,34...I guess.
Perhaps one could explain it with comparing a penis to an average sized banana. But, fuck, how big is an average sized banana?

redEva
05-26-2003, 05:34 PM
You See! totally confusing....
and the average size of banana *taking out the measuring tape and the still slightly green banana from the dinner table* would be … well what do you know … 8 Inches!

passenger
05-26-2003, 06:05 PM
totally confusing!
Although I hope the average banana is bigger. Yes, this seems to be my question: Who is bigger, the banana or the penis? (Come on, enough hints now, make us men happy again!)

BDSM_Tourguide
05-26-2003, 09:06 PM
Penile Enlargement: Fact or Phallacy?

Are there medically sound ways to increase penis size?

By Steven N. Gange, MD, FACS
WebMD Answers to Questions Archive
I?ve seen ads for penis enlargement aids, such as vacuum devices and pills, and am wondering if there is any validity to these claims? If not, what options are there for someone with a small penis?


Come-ons like these rarely offer scientific proof, yet many men spend money on such products hoping for penile enlargement. They are falling prey to two misconceptions: 1) They have a smaller than average penis; 2) non-surgical penile enlargement is safe and effective.
Misconception #1: The Small Penis
Men in general have a distorted view of what?s normal for penile size. The fact is, "average" was not defined until recently. A study published in the September 1996 Journal of Urology concluded that average flaccid penile length was 8.8 cm (3 1/2 inches), and average erect length was 12.8 cm (5 inches). Also, according to many women?s magazine surveys, "size doesn?t matter." But many men remain fixated on the ideal of the 8- to 10-inch penis.
Some men don?t even realize what they have. For example, obese men develop a suprapubic fat pad that conceals the penis, making it look shorter. Pressing firmly on this fatty tissue reveals the true penile length. I often explain this to patients, but a man who is convinced his penis is too small is hard to convince otherwise.

Occasionally a perception of inadequate penile length is a manifestation of underlying feelings of inadequacy in general. In these instances, psychological counseling may prove helpful.

Misconception #2: You Can Increase Penile Size Without Surgery
There are no proven non-surgical methods of penile enlargement. Vacuum devices simply cause engorgement by drawing blood into the penis. (While these devices are very useful tools in the management of erectile dysfunction (ED), they do not progressively enlarge the penis.) No natural pill has any ability whatsoever to enhance penile size. Even Viagra does nothing to permanently affect penile size. Topical testosterone cream used in childhood can increase penile size by accelerating the effects of puberty, but there is no proof that testosterone cream applied to the adult penis enhances penile size.
When Surgery Is Warranted
Certain men suffering from urologic conditions may need plastic surgery on the penis: those with traumatic defects; those whose penises have retracted following a spinal cord injury; those born with a condition called epispadius (a severe penile deformity with associated shortening); and some men with Peyronie?s Disease (scarring of the penile shaft resulting in severe angulation and occasionally shortening). For these men, surgical procedures are available to give the penis additional length and a more normal appearance. However, these procedures, even in the best of hands, often result in wound infection or other healing complications. Sexual function may be impaired, and an artificial penile prosthesis may need to be inserted at the time of such surgery.
Enlargement Surgery: Still Experimental and Risky
Within the past 10 years, some surgeons have attempted purely cosmetic penile enlargement surgery on healthy men to enhance both length and girth of the penis. This surgery usually involves cutting the band of tissue that holds the penis up against the pubic bone (the suspensory ligament), and then injecting fat, harvested by liposuction, beneath the penile skin to add bulk. The surgery is still experimental: Two recent studies (one in 1994, the other in 1996) published in the Journal of Urology reported significant complications resulting from this surgery -- serious wound infections and penile deformity, such as lumpiness and asymmetry. In fact, the surgery is still so controversial and yields such poor results that it is considered generally unacceptable by both the plastic surgery and urological communities.
In addition, such procedures are expensive, costing up to $10,000 in some instances. Penile enlargement is not a simple undertaking and is usually not medically necessary. If you choose to pursue surgical enlargement, be sure to check the credentials of your surgeon (e.g., board certification) and carefully weigh the risks and potential benefits.

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BDSM_Tourguide
05-26-2003, 09:09 PM
In Pursuit of Extra Inches

When Size Matters

By Martin Downs F.
WebMD Feature Reviewed By Gary Vogin, MD


The offers certainly are enticing: "Add 2 or more inches to your penis in just weeks!" one product's web site promises. "Doctor-approved pill will enlarge your penis up to 3 inches," another claims. But are they for real? No.


Surgery is the only legitimate way to permanently enlarge your penis, and the best possible results are much less dramatic than you might hope for. Claims of massive gains by other methods -- such as pills, pumps, and exercises -- are either overenthusiastic or blatantly fraudulent.


There are three operations that plastic surgeons perform on men who want a bigger penis. Only one can make it look longer.


Part of the penis is held inside the body by the suspensory ligament, which attaches the penis to the pubic bone. A surgeon can cut this ligament so that the penis slides down and more of it is visible outside the body. You may gain up to 1 inch in length by having this surgery.


To widen the penis, a surgeon can harvest fat from elsewhere on your body and inject it into the shaft of the penis. A newer way to add girth is called dermal grafting. In this procedure, a surgeon buys skin from a tissue bank and grafts it underneath the skin of the penis shaft.



Not for Everyone


A statement from the American Urological Society (AUA) on surgical widening and lengthening says there is no proof to show that the procedures are safe or that they work.


Ira Sharlip, a California urologist and president of the Sexual Medicine Society of North America, says there just isn't enough data from credible studies for the society to endorse these procedures. But that doesn't mean all doctors dislike the idea. "I would love to see that data," Sharlip says.


Mark Solomon, MD, a cosmetic surgeon in Pennsylvania, insists that surgery is only for men who are really serious about it. "I'm not out on the Internet sucking up hundreds of patients for penis enlargement," Solomon says. "I'm careful about who I operate on."


He says he won't take any patient who has unrealistic expectations, like dreams of turning an average 6-inch penis into one that's 9 or more inches long. He won't operate on uncircumcised men, either, because the risk for complications is greater. "I turn down most patients," he says.


What's more, many men reconsider after hearing all the details.



What Price Size?


After the ligament-cutting procedure, a man must wear weights on his penis to keep scar tissue from forming that would make it shorter again. Solomon compares the discomfort of recovery from this surgery to that of a hernia operation.


Besides leaving you tender and unable to have sex for at least one month, there is another down side, literally, to the lengthening operation. The tension of the suspensory ligament is what makes the penis point upward when erect. A penis lengthened by cutting the ligament points downward when erect, and it may wobble during sex.


Fat injections for thickening the penis caused problems for men who had it done early on. The fat tended to move around under the skin, making the penis look lumpy. But Tom Lue, MD, a professor of urology at the University of California San Francisco, says the procedure has been refined in recent years and the results men get today are "much better than five to 10 years ago."


Lue points out that fat injections and dermal grafting widen only the shaft of the penis, not the head. Some may think a surgically widened penis looks strange because the shaft is wider than the head.



GUARANTEED!!!* (*Not)


If you look at enough Web sites that sell enlargement products and techniques, you'll notice that they all try to debunk each other's methods to shore up their own claims. Taken all together, the whole enterprise discredits itself.


Here's one claim about "natural" penis enlargement, or so-called "ancient secret" techniques, which involve torturing your penis by hand:


"The key to size growth is breaking down the cells in the penis by forcing blood into them and stretching them out. The penis 'repairs' itself by regrowing the cells, expanding the erectile tissue and allowing the penis to hold more blood. End result: the penis becomes longer and thicker."


Sharlip puts his medical opinion about this in layman's terms: "That's bull----," he says.


Lue says you can hurt yourself this way. If you rupture the fibers of the penis wall, you can get Peyronie's disease -- a bent penis.


The penis pump is another method that's not "ancient" but that has been around for decades. Pumps create a vacuum around the penis, which engorges it with blood. This can help men who have erectile dysfunction achieve an erection. Lue says if you use a pump regularly for a long time, your penis may get fatter. But if you stop using it, the swelling will disappear.


There are also many hucksters who claim that taking herbal pills will enlarge your penis permanently. Does this work? "There's no reason to expect that it would," Sharlip says.


Lue's final advice is, "Don't mess around with the penis." He says men often come to him in tears over what they've done to themselves. And Sharlip doesn't offer much sympathy to the size-obsessed man. "If a man's self-esteem is largely dependant on the size of his penis, he has more of a problem between his ears than between his legs," he says.

MrJerseyGuy
06-19-2003, 11:51 AM
Mine is big enough to please me! Isn't that what's important? That's why god invented dildoes!

S_Couture
06-19-2003, 07:16 PM
I remember that some guys started an 8-inch penis club. Turns out they were measuring from the bottom. It really should have been named the "Average 5.5-6 inch club"

ladydragon
06-22-2003, 02:05 AM
It should be OK to measure from the bottom- if he can get the full length of the underside inside me, then it counts.

I prefer good solid girth to length. And like Tourguide eloquently stated, the mind and the mouth are *MUCH* more important. The part involving penile insertion is the smaller portion of sex, for me.

Lord Douche
07-03-2003, 08:36 AM
I have somewhere a survey on females thoughts about sex.
SexKitten replied this:
Does penis size matter?:
penis size does not matter...it's the motion of the ocean, not the size of the wave...
Which matters to you most Size or Sexual Technique?: sexual technique most definitely. I do not want a man with a huge penis, but doesn't know how to use it!

drake7
07-05-2003, 06:21 AM
Penis size sure is a popular subject. It all boils down to two things though;

1) Just like some men prefer a woman to have breasts that are large or small, round or pear shaped, soft or firm, etc. Most women have a similar opinion of the penis. They have a certain "type" that they prefer over others. In the end, however, just as breast size or shape isn't a very good indicator of how good a woman is in bed so too penis size or shape isn't a very good indicator of how good a man is in bed.

2) The penis is a reproductive tool, the size of which is controlled by heredity. If your parents had children it means the penis which planted that sperm in the egg was of sufficient size to do it's job meaning your penis is Ooo-kay. If your parents didn't have any children... then you were adopted and don't have to worry about it because somewhere out there was a penis that had your name on it and it was obviously big enough to get the job done.

-Drake.

Kostly
07-18-2003, 09:48 PM
Originally posted by redEva
i feel the same georgey, and i have not seen the tiny ones in my life either. i had, however, been fortunate enough to experience pleasure and pain of good 10 inches – so, although i vote for “Bigger the better” in real life 8 is just about right!
Ok, here is my chance to brag... I try to do it as often as possible for I dont feel I have too much other then my size to brag about...

but, I am 8-9 inches, depending on the weather, health and level of turn on... or what ever causes it to biger somtimes then others... but I have been told I am REALLY unusually thick...

I have only had 1 or maybe 2 girlfriends that I bottomed out. And I have been told that I have given more girls there first orgasims from sex in their lives then I care to count.

I have given up with giving vergins any pleasure at all during the instances... It really sucks, but I dont enjoy this intimate act of taking a virgin... Its way to painful for them, and the bleeding usually gets very intense...

I also didnt know that I was unusual. Not until I was showering after wrestling practice as a teen when one of the more gutsy guys said "wow he has a HUGE cock"... I wonder if hes gay now...

Anyways...

As far as Super small cocks, I have heard quite a few accounts from women who I was going out with that pointed to guys they use to date and say "hes about the size of your pinky". I feel really bad for them, must be really hard to open up and be confortable with beign naked.

I dont know what it is, but I can say with assurance that I am porno star size... I dont want to be bigger... maybe a bit shorter... but thats it...

Also anal sex is really hard on the woman. Takes allot of time and practice for this to be enjoyable... Also women tend to be unable to use their mouths on me without hitting teath. and I have only had 1 girl EVER be able to take me in her mouth all the way.

I also dont orgasim very easily, and can stop myself from reaching orgasim without much effort at all. I use to like to torment my last subbie by fucking her for hours... She would start to cry from the pain of me. Then I would cum, and start over in 10-20 minutes... I went all day once, and she couldnt walk straight for a few days...

The only problem with all this is that I have never came from a female giving me oral or a hand job... Ive always wanted to, but something holds me back...

Well I am done showing off...

Kostly:)

P.S. I got a big nose, so maybe there is a corilation between nose size and penis size.

redEva
07-19-2003, 08:56 AM
how far is from Toronto to Rochester? :D

redEva
07-19-2003, 01:13 PM
well it does not hurt to ask :o

BruceBoxer
07-19-2003, 04:40 PM
In all my years of phys ed in school, football and wrestling and decades in the military, I NEVER thought to measure my dick--I'm thinking it's adequate tho as an old girlfriend, now married for a third time, emailed me last week saying , "I can't get you out of my mind." Now I suppose I should take the high road and think that she can't forget me because I was so freaking utterly charming, treated her like a princess, or made her laugh, but no--I choose the low road and like tio think it was I fucked her sensless continually--ok, ok, I admit there was a lot of tongue action too.

pam
07-19-2003, 05:39 PM
Size doesn't matter as long as you can hit my tonsils -- repeatedly

:)

Kostly
07-19-2003, 05:43 PM
Originally posted by redEva
well it does not hurt to ask :o

Well I am always interested in new SUBIES...

but only for LTR!

:)

Kostly

pam
07-19-2003, 05:47 PM
Originally posted by Kostly
Is this an offer:D :p ;)

;)

BDSM_Tourguide
07-19-2003, 07:12 PM
Could you people possibly make me want to snore any more? ;) I mean, like, yawn-o, my penis is so big... How big is it? It's so big that my last girlfriend had to climb it with truncheons and pitons.

I'm with Bruce. I was never insecure enough to measure, brag or exaggerate about it. :cool:

Kostly
07-19-2003, 07:58 PM
Originally posted by BDSM_Tourguide
Could you people possibly make me want to snore any more? ;) I mean, like, yawn-o, my penis is so big... How big is it? It's so big that my last girlfriend had to climb it with truncheons and pitons.

I'm with Bruce. I was never insecure enough to measure, brag or exaggerate about it. :cool:

No insecurity...

Just happyness for my favorite part... hell women walk everywhere with these 2 enormous mounds, and they get attention... why cant I expect the same thing occasionally? Hell its only on a forum in some obscure, however great, website. I mean let me have my day in the sun!

Kostly

Kostly
07-19-2003, 08:10 PM
Why is it bad to talk about my penis on a site that SPECIFICALLY deals EXCLUSIVELY with SEX??? I mean I have gotten this same response before... people get angry if someone says, I got a BIG penis.... but if a girl says, I GOT DD BREASTS... she gets 50,000 Emails... is this a double standard or what?

Or all joking placed aside do people actually think that this matters at all? I know I have bedded a few girls because of it... but truthfully, I kinda regret thoose girls...

But it was a good time, so What The Hell...

lol
Kostly

pam
07-20-2003, 05:15 AM
"Or all joking placed aside do people actually think that this matters at all? I know I have bedded a few girls because of it... but truthfully, I kinda regret thoose girls..."

I think it depends on the individual, but from all the men I've spoken to in business over the years, they seem to "think" size matters. The same way women who aren't endowed think they're lacking something, well, guys tend to think the same thing, but that's thanks to watching porn videos where all the men seemingly have 10 inches (remember, most porn guys are very short, too, so appear larger).

Size does not matter to me, but admittedly, there are, uhm, areas where I prefer something larger .. and if the guy is not naturally equipped well then there are always dildoes that can do the job -- and since he's controlling the dildo action .. 'nuff said

*turning up the a/c*

:)

veru_skjava
07-20-2003, 06:41 AM
*nodding lots to Bruce and TG Sirs*

Its not size, in fact, its not even being aware of size that matters to me.

Its like TG Sir said, the mind, the mouth, and well fingers... Its knowing how to make me happy, and doing so.

giggles, ok Kostly, your point is well taken, but I have not really ever heard women bragging about their breasts....

Hey double standards apply often we may not like them, but they are a reality... ;)

veru

Kostly
07-20-2003, 06:55 AM
Originally posted by veru_skjava
*nodding lots to Bruce and TG Sirs*

Its not size, in fact, its not even being aware of size that matters to me.

Its like TG Sir said, the mind, the mouth, and well fingers... Its knowing how to make me happy, and doing so.

giggles, ok Kostly, your point is well taken, but I have not really ever heard women bragging about their breasts....

Hey double standards apply often we may not like them, but they are a reality... ;)

veru

Hey you got it flaunt it... And unfortunately Size matters to a few girls out there... like I said, I have bedded a few girls by bragging... ofcourse not on the internet but in real life.... They wanted to TRY it out... and I think they liked it... but thoose relationships never make it very far... By bragging about it I too get ubjectified, and the relationship quickly ends

As far as women BRAGGING about it... they do so every DAY... why do you think they wear thoose TIGHT shirts that drive us SO VERY crazy...

Sorry:)
Kostly

BDSM_Tourguide
07-20-2003, 07:50 AM
Well, at least these women of yours were attracted to you for your brains, rather than some physical aspect. Assuming your brain is where nearly every other man's is.

The difference is: I have yet to see a woman sitting in a bar with eight of her friends, saying, "My fucking tits are so big, my boyfriend almost suffocated on them when I got on top last night." Then another woman saying, "Oh yeah? Well, my tits are so big that when my man does me doggy style, it sounds like an entire audience clapping."

I think it's because women lack two essential elements that men seem to have in abundance, especially online: Testosterone and stupidity.

If the first thing on my girlfriend's mind is the size of my dick, then she won't be my girlfriend for very damned long. However, if she wants to see my really big paddle, that's another thing altogether.




Originally posted by Kostly
Hey you got it flaunt it... And unfortunately Size matters to a few girls out there... like I said, I have bedded a few girls by bragging... ofcourse not on the internet but in real life.... They wanted to TRY it out... and I think they liked it... but thoose relationships never make it very far... By bragging about it I too get ubjectified, and the relationship quickly ends

As far as women BRAGGING about it... they do so every DAY... why do you think they wear thoose TIGHT shirts that drive us SO VERY crazy...

Sorry:)
Kostly

veru_skjava
07-20-2003, 08:28 AM
OMG TG Sir ...
I love it!!!

*cracks up hard laughing*

Steely
07-20-2003, 06:12 PM
If the first thing on my girlfriend's mind is the size of my dick, then she won't be my girlfriend for very damned long. However, if she wants to see my really big paddle, that's another thing altogether.




although less than eloquent, i agree with the sentiment perfectly!

Kostly
07-20-2003, 06:38 PM
Originally posted by BDSM_Tourguide
Well, at least these women of yours were attracted to you for your brains, rather than some physical aspect. Assuming your brain is where nearly every other man's is.
I was only interested in their physical attributes at the time... So whats so wrong with us enjoying ourselves... We were safe, and I didnt catch any diseases, for I am clean now... and we didnt have a kid, so I guess it was nice:) We both got laid and never saw each other again... Its called a 1 night stand... and I havent had 2 many of these, but I would be lieing if I didnt say I enjoy it...

Now, Granted that I would Rather have a LTR, and that I am not looking for a 1 night stand... but thats wasnt the case back then...


The difference is: I have yet to see a woman sitting in a bar with eight of her friends, saying, "My fucking tits are so big, my boyfriend almost suffocated on them when I got on top last night." Then another woman saying, "Oh yeah? Well, my tits are so big that when my man does me doggy style, it sounds like an entire audience clapping."
No they dont have to say this... But women spend BILLIONS every year on things to make there breasts look bigger... WONDER BRA'S, PUSHUPS, WATER BRAS, SURGERY, etc...

Most men focus on the brests... ask any women with big boobs and she will often say... "Hey my Eyes are up here". Personally I dont care if a women has big boobies or not... I am happy with my womens intellect over her outword apearance.

With that said I am PROUD of my penis for it affords the women I love great pleasure... hell why shouldnt I be...

and BTW I am not going to Yahoo.com Women Power Forums and Bragging about it... Im on a BDSM forum, I stand by my original post for it was BOTH valid to the descusion and to the type of site this is.



I think it's because women lack two essential elements that men seem to have in abundance, especially online: Testosterone and stupidity.
Well I do have Testosterone, but I dont like the stupidity part... sounds like your insecure or Jellous... I guess thats ok... I am insecure about things too... I got a big nose and a thousand things not as perfect... But I dont call others stupid over my insecurity's! Sorry, but Jelousy is a horrible emotion...


If the first thing on my girlfriend's mind is the size of my dick, then she won't be my girlfriend for very damned long. However, if she wants to see my really big paddle, that's another thing altogether.[/font][/color]
I AGREE!!! 100% Except for the Paddle part... That was just a bad Joke... Also, if a girl Initially starts a dialog with me because of my penis size then she gets too know me, and eventually falls in love with me, then is this wrong?

Dispite what some women say, SIZE does matters, but only in a limited scope.. and my original post was ment to say this... so if you have a small penis, then use your tonge and it shouldnt matter to any girl. For the tounge is much better at pleasing a women then a Big Penis... I know cause I LOVE giving oral sex... and many women I have had say that is the best dispite everything...

But this is all MUTE, we are on a BDSM site, and a Big Penis doesnt make you a great Dom/sub... Just makes you different... I am the first one to agree with this... I try to be the best at it, but I know for certain that some are much more skilled then I am... The mind is the most important eroginance zone... So I can only hope that you can get over my inflatted penis ego to see the point that I so horribly made the first few times...


---------------------------------

With that said, I guess my hostility comes from you calling me stupid... I guess I am sorry that you feel so angry at me... I respected you for who you are, and not the size of your penis... but its obvious that you have judged me for this superficial reason... I guess your purpose was to say that I am a superficial person, but all I did was acknowledge and expose myself to the world.

pam
07-20-2003, 06:43 PM
" but all I did was acknowledge myself and expose myself to the world"

I haven't seen this large penis exposed yet, may I?

*smart assed sub running fast*

Kostly
07-20-2003, 06:44 PM
Originally posted by pam
" but all I did was acknowledge myself and expose myself to the world"

I haven't seen this large penis exposed yet, may I?

*smart assed sub running fast*

Hey, The Penis only gives in-person interviews:)

pam
07-20-2003, 06:47 PM
Where do I fill out an application for an up close and personal interview?

:)

Kostly
07-20-2003, 06:52 PM
Originally posted by pam
Where do I fill out an application for an up close and personal interview?

:)

We (me and my penis) provide a VERITY of submission (pun intended) methods, including FAX, EMAIL and INSTANT MESSAGE... followed by a reasonably long term online screaning process, blood tests, and then finally a scheduled interview.

pam
07-20-2003, 07:09 PM
Damn, the things a girl's gotta do these days

:)

BTW, this statement wins you lots of brownie points ... "Personally I dont care if a women has big boobies or not... I am happy with my womens intellect over her outword apearance."

Though the years I've found too many so-called dominant 'men' -- and I use that word loosely -- only want women with a certain height, weight, breast size, tush size, etc, and ignore the most important organ, the brain.

Then again, this topic *is* about size and I do like a rather large .. brain

:)

BDSM_Tourguide
07-20-2003, 08:42 PM
I didn't call you stupid. I called men stupid. They are. Ask any woman that's visitted an adult chat site.

I'm not insecure or jealous of you or anyone else. Well, maybe those people that can afford $20 million homes.

I don't give a damn about penis size. Personally, I don't see why anyone should, including women. There are so many more important things than the penis, like a great imagination and a great tongue.

My wife and I have some great sex and many times our genitals never contact one another.

I just don't get what the point of the importance this is to people. Maybe I should go measure myself and see where I stand in this debate.

Nah. Still not that insecure. ;)




Originally posted by Kostly
With that said, I guess my hostility comes from you calling me stupid... I guess I am sorry that you feel so angry at me... I respected you for who you are, and not the size of your penis... but its obvious that you have judged me for this superficial reason... I guess your purpose was to say that I am a superficial person, but all I did was acknowledge and expose myself to the world.

Kostly
07-20-2003, 08:45 PM
Go messure yourself... but not for this debat.. but because you should have fun with it:)

Steely
07-20-2003, 08:47 PM
his penis, or the debate? i'm confused...

BDSM_Tourguide
07-20-2003, 08:47 PM
Like I said, I have a quite satisfying sex life without knowing that tidbit of completely useless information.

BDSM_Tourguide
07-20-2003, 08:48 PM
Cute.



Originally posted by Steely
his penis, or the debate? i'm confused...

Steely
07-20-2003, 08:57 PM
odd duplicate... delete this at will

pam
07-21-2003, 06:45 AM
Originally posted by Kostly
so then Size does matter:)

Brain size? Definitely :)

If I had a choice between an intelligent Dom and one with 10", it would be a no-brainer :)

Mind fucks are more fun, anyway

:)

BruceBoxer
07-21-2003, 04:13 PM
Sorry pam--gotta diagree--too many interrogation training sessions--HATE the mind fuck...love the regular though...and tit fucks, like those alot...I'm SO shallow :)


Originally posted by pam
Brain size? Definitely :)

If I had a choice between an intelligent Dom and one with 10", it would be a no-brainer :)

Mind fucks are more fun, anyway

:)

pam
07-21-2003, 04:33 PM
LOL interrogation scenes are my #1 favorite thing, I think -- because they're so much of a mind fuck :)

It's that fear factor ....

Nothing shallow about liking a tit fuck, though I think I'd prefer tit torture *blush*

redEva
07-21-2003, 04:43 PM
well that was the battle for last few days, now finally the here it comes, response that is :)

If you got it, flaunt it! 110% Kostly :)

Yes i agree between 10 inches and no brain and average size with sizable brain – that is no brainer. But, while we are discussing, and lets be honest, if the brain, overall looks and attitude were equal and you were presented with choice between 5,5 and 9 inches – what would you chose (this is directed at women of course – just clarifying hehe)?

Unfortunately, i have to say, the penises are not advertised so openly in everyday life, well, on the other hand if you think about it, it all depends on the fashion, like – if tights or very tight designer jeans are hip, many a man has been known to enhance the bulge with socks – now how is that different from padded bra? The male underwear models are either kept aroused for the shoot, or are wearing cup (enhancer). Now, if size does not matter – why would they do that?

As for women, admit it or not – those with better looks have better chance in everything – from getting laid to getting job offer (and again the clarification – i am not talking about brain-dead blonde with boob job against average looking Harvard graduate!). Imagine this: you go to a party and see two women; one is just simply plain the other one has nice pair of boobs and is elegantly dressed to accentuate her assets. Both can carry intelligent witted conversation. Which one would you like to see for candle light dinner?

We all like to surround ourselves with beauty. Different people have different ideas about what beautiful is – thus some prefer DD (like me) and some modest B, some enjoy penis of a size that would not hurt back opening or make you gag, others like to see it in all its glory, like to feel stretched and filled to the tonsils (no matter where’s the entrance). All depends on taste and preference.

De gustibus non est disputandum !

But if there is time and place to discuss it, it is here – and to flaunt it too ! GO Kostly GO! (maybe i apply for that interview too ;))

pam
07-21-2003, 04:51 PM
Originally posted by redEva
well that was the battle for last few days, now finally the here it comes, response that is :)


Yes i agree between 10 inches and no brain and average size with sizable brain – that is no brainer. But, while we are discussing, and lets be honest, if the brain, overall looks and attitude were equal and you were presented with choice between 5,5 and 9 inches – what would you chose (this is directed at women of course – just clarifying hehe)?

If I'm 100% honest, I'd say I'd take the 5.5" guy, only because in general, men who are 'smaller' according to society, try that much harder to be a better lover, and make up for their supposed lack of size by using their fingers and tongues to their advantage. Men with larger penii (and this is generalizing and not meant against Kostly) tend to be focused SO much on the size of their equipment that they ignore what can be done with a talented finger or tongue.


"would not hurt back opening or make you gag, others like to see it in all its glory, like to feel stretched and filled to the tonsils (no matter where’s the entrance)."

I LOVE to gag ... but can gag on 5.5" thrust in hard as easily as I can gag on 9" ... and that's why there are 9" flexible dildoes for that added assistance when needed

:)

redEva
07-21-2003, 05:02 PM
to each their own :)

pam
07-21-2003, 05:10 PM
Yep, if we were all alike, life would be very boring indeed.

:)

Kostly
07-21-2003, 05:59 PM
The desire to please is in no way corrilated with penis size.,.. I mean take me... I love to please my women... I like giving 3 or 4 orgasims a session... after that... lets be honest womeen... your desire drops quicker then a rock...

Kostly

Fox
07-23-2003, 02:15 PM
Okay, as a happy, healthy male, with all the requisite plumbing and good working order, and the offspring to prove it (notches hurt too much so I stopped adding them when I left my teen years behind) ...

Okay, the testosterone kicked in there for a brief moment. Back to the comment.

As a happy, healthy male with all the requisite plumbing, I must agree with Robin Williams, another happy, healhty male ...

"God equipped man with a brain and a penis, and only enough blood to make one work at a time ..."

or something like that.

It's not what you got, it's how well you use what you got that counts.

That's it, I'm outta here.

:D :cool: :D

sarah72
07-27-2003, 07:32 AM
The question here is, with all factors equal (brain, attitude, general looks, etc) and the choice of a 5” or an 8” cock (proportionally thick), what would one choose? Well, I would go for the 8” (and I think 9 out of 10 other women) would do the same. With the 5”, you get fucked, with the 8”, you also feel fucked!! And this becomes drastically more emphatic in other than vaginal penetration..

redEva
07-27-2003, 07:39 AM
*tears of happiness in her eyes* YES! thank you, thank you, thank you Sarah – could not have put it better myself!

BruceBoxer
07-27-2003, 03:23 PM
Tiz true sarah--and the same goes for breasts--all else being equal--I prefer big with huge nipples. Strangly tho, I find there is never an occasion when ALL else is equal--I've gladly traded huge mammaries for wit, caring, delicate voice, red hair, long fingers (a strange fetish of mine) and a willingness to toss inhibitions out the window. With those qualities, flat chested is fine by me. I hope fellow readers, you can see my point--physical attributes are indeed a part of the package but, when the tally is counted, a relatively unimportant part and I think I shan't be reading or contributing to posts on this or similar topics anymore. It pisses me off to tell you the truth--few things do but for reasons known but to me I suppose, this topic does.


Originally posted by sarah72
The question here is, with all factors equal (brain, attitude, general looks, etc) and the choice of a 5” or an 8” cock (proportionally thick), what would one choose? Well, I would go for the 8” (and I think 9 out of 10 other women) would do the same. With the 5”, you get fucked, with the 8”, you also feel fucked!! And this becomes drastically more emphatic in other than vaginal penetration..

mica
07-29-2003, 03:20 PM
Just wanted to add to all the confusion.
Length? Yes it can be a good thing. But how about girth?
There are skinny ones, there are fat ones. Most average 1 1/2 to 2 inches thick.
Of course some are 3 inches or more.
It is very pleasing for a woman (yes, I took a poll) if they are around 2 to 2 1/2 inches thick.
From my experience, as a very sexual woman, I can tell you this:
If a man doesn't know how to use his penis to please a woman...
It really doesn't matter what size he is.
Oh yes,some don't.:cool:

LadyAmanda
07-29-2003, 05:38 PM
I have to say, one of my most memorable male lovers had nothing much going for him - if you know what I mean!

But god, did he make up for it with his tongue action :) I have never met such a talented mouth; just the thought of it gets me wet!

mica
07-29-2003, 06:06 PM
Well I can relate there, cause only one guy that can make me cum that way

InnerTemptress
07-29-2003, 06:24 PM
imo, the true test to know what a woman is looking for in cock size is to look at her vibrator collection.

Jemal
08-03-2003, 11:59 PM
Well, I've read a lot of discussions here as to what 'average' size ACTUALLY is...

Why don't we do a study of our own? Perhaps a poll of all the Male members. (Pun intended).

I know lots of guys feel insecure when expressing size, but if we made it a poll, there's not much way of figuring out who voted which one..


Also maybe a poll of the ladies to see what's they're prefered size.

What's everyone think?

Kostly
08-04-2003, 06:09 AM
Good Idea... Ill create it if its not done already:)

pam
08-04-2003, 06:19 AM
Be sure to have 2 polls

1. Actual penis size

2. Actual Internet penis size

The latter is generally 50% larger than it appears

:)

drake7
08-04-2003, 09:15 PM
pam wrote:

Be sure to have 2 polls

1. Actual penis size

2. Actual Internet penis size

The latter is generally 50% larger than it appears

One of the things that really bugs me about the internet is the pervasiveness of lying about this or that. The internet is truly a place where people are listened to or not listened to based solely on the strength, or weakness, of their words, thoughts and ideas. Even something as trivial as penis size exaggeration is just one example of a widespread problem. Exaggeration is becoming the norm. Lying is so expected that the truth becomes irrelevant.

As to any type of poll... the only one that I would find reliable would be a poll of what women want as far as penis size/shape. The women I have been with have expressed a variety of opinions, but I think I am pretty much average. So that would lead me to believe that women just prefer a certain size/shape penis just as men tend to prefer a certain size/shape breast.

-Drake.

Kostly
08-05-2003, 06:48 AM
Originally posted by drake7
pam wrote:


One of the things that really bugs me about the internet is the pervasiveness of lying about this or that. The internet is truly a place where people are listened to or not listened to based solely on the strength, or weakness, of their words, thoughts and ideas. Even something as trivial as penis size exaggeration is just one example of a widespread problem. Exaggeration is becoming the norm. Lying is so expected that the truth becomes irrelevant.

As to any type of poll... the only one that I would find reliable would be a poll of what women want as far as penis size/shape. The women I have been with have expressed a variety of opinions, but I think I am pretty much average. So that would lead me to believe that women just prefer a certain size/shape penis just as men tend to prefer a certain size/shape breast.

-Drake.
Ok First...

I couldnt agree more

BUT

I am an EVIL, EVIL man and a "TROUBLE MAKER", so I must present the opposite view even though I dont agree with it... so Here it goes...

The internet is a wonderful place to express fantisy. You can go onto the internet and be whoever you want to be. You can be SuperMan or you can even be Lois Lane... What ever floats your boat, and who really cares what the results and problems that you create through your lies.

pam
08-05-2003, 07:12 AM
Originally posted by Kostly

What ever floats your boat, and who really cares what the results and problems that you create through your lies.

Bullshit

:)

I've had more friends hurt by liars on the Internet than you'd believe. The sheer number of married jerks pretending to be single would astound you (maybe not).

I had one moron try to come on to me the other day by bragging about his status in Special Operations in the miliary. He 'could' have hurt me badly if I wasn't so jaded :)

People do care about the lies, because someone inevitably is hurt.

But yes, you can be what you want on the Internet.

Kostly
08-05-2003, 07:14 AM
Please dont hurt the message carrier.. for I too have been hurt more times then I can count on all of my fingers and toes by liers on the internet.

These dishonest Fuckers deserve to rot in hell..

petpleasureyes
04-14-2004, 06:20 PM
When i was younger, i read a report in a magazine concerning average cock size which stated the average cock size was about 6 inches long, this was probably 20 years ago. i read another similar report only a few years ago that stated the average cock size was 5 inches. i can't remember what magazines these were in, i think the second report may have been in Maxium magazine, but not sure. i also read an article i found fascinating concerning how men and women measure a man's penis differently. A man, who's attached to the penis (of course) will pull his cock forward away from his body and measure his penis from the top placing the ruler against his belly at the base of his penis and measure it to the tip. A woman, however, who'll be standing in front of a man will normally measure a penis differently, she'll measure it from the outside, placing the ruler at the base of a man's penis starting where it protrudes from the man's testicles to the tip of the cock. There's a difference of usually an inch between these two methods and strangely enough, the man (who's normally more concerned about his cock size) uses the method that produces the smaller size number. For me, after reading this post, i'm just curious to see which method most people here use (top or bottom measuring method). For me who's used both of these methods since reading about them (i used to use the first method only myself) i get a result of 7 1/2 inches using the first and 8 3/4 inches using the second. Now neither of the statistics i read concerning cock size mentioned which method was used (and that's important to know, i think, considering that there are 2 methods), especially considering the difference in the average size. Either they used a different method each or men's penises have gotten shorter over the past 20 years. Also, i'm sure who volunteered to participate in each of these studies also effected the results. Maybe if all male members (no pun intended) were to post their cock sizes (hopefully honestly) using each method i mentioned, then we could add up the numbers and divide it by the number of participants and come up with our own statistic. Sound interesting?

Nightstriker
04-15-2004, 05:26 PM
*Walk in tries to reach thread with the 10 foot pole and fails.*

Damm

Ok here is what I have found out on this specific subject.

First off yes I have mesured my dick and I am just about 7.5 cm that is 5 inches long for those who use the imperal system.

I have also measured the diamater of my dick and I span 2.2 inches accross that is about 5.5 cm.

From all of the reading that I have done and the various people that I have talked to on these things length is not what matters. Scientifically speaking a woman only feels about 4 inches from the opening of her pussy. So anything else is just extra, "dead" meat.

This is just what I have herd.

petpleasureyes
04-15-2004, 05:36 PM
i've never really worried about the size of my own penis. The truth of the matter, it's how this tool is operated and not it's size that matters. You can have someone with a 26 inch dick, but if he tries to pop that sucker in and comes before the first 2 inches are inserted, well...you get my meaning.

redEva
04-16-2004, 02:39 PM
*Walk in tries to reach thread with the 10 foot pole and fails.*

Damm

Ok here is what I have found out on this specific subject.

First off yes I have mesured my dick and I am just about 7.5 cm that is 5 inches long for those who use the imperal system.

I have also measured the diamater of my dick and I span 2.2 inches accross that is about 5.5 cm.

From all of the reading that I have done and the various people that I have talked to on these things length is not what matters. Scientifically speaking a woman only feels about 4 inches from the opening of her pussy. So anything else is just extra, "dead" meat.

This is just what I have herd.

i sure hope you bit longer than 7.5 cm cause your conversion chart is a bit off (1 cm = 0.3937 in) which would put you just short of 3 inches. On the other hand if you did measure correctly and your diameter is 2.5 inches I’m impressed - that is the size of average man wrist :eek:

slavelucy
04-16-2004, 02:54 PM
Also, i'm sure who volunteered to participate in each of these studies also effected the results. Maybe if all male members (no pun intended) were to post their cock sizes (hopefully honestly) using each method i mentioned, then we could add up the numbers and divide it by the number of participants and come up with our own statistic. Sound interesting?

Oh cripes - no offense, but no, it doesn't sound all that interesting, it sounds interminably dull to me. The whole cock size thing, with, horror of horrors, MATHS thrown in - noooooo! :D

But alas, maybe that's just 'cause i'm a girlie (and one that's shit at maths at that!).

sl

drake7
04-16-2004, 06:49 PM
I haven't ever actually measured the size of my penis. Other than like, "Well it seems to fit in my hand/her hand/[other unspecified region]" ;)

Is there a correlation between performance and size or is it a visual thing? I tend to be attracted to women with larger breasts, as most men are I think, but I am experienced enough to know that the size of a woman's breasts are not a good indicator of her profiency in bed. They may turn my head but that's about all. So do women just like the way a larger penis looks or is there a performance difference?

Drake.

Fanny Warmer
04-18-2004, 08:10 AM
I've measured and come in at 7.5 inches, that works out to 12 inches Canadian :)

Seriously though about three months ago my GF said to me 5 simple words that made my day "Your big enough for me". She has some pretty serious toys and can accommodate girth to an extreme but can't accommodate more than 8 inches in length without experiencing severe pain (cervix getting in the way???).

While we were surfing the net we discovered a picture of two men banging a woman's pussy at the same time. She didn't say she wanted such a scene but I could tell by the look in her eyes that she was aroused. That night I managed to work her 8 inch dildo into her and then squeeze myself in next to it as I mounted her. She nearly bucked me off the bed and let out some significant guttural sounds. She did not, however, have an orgasm as the position we were in offered no clitoral stimulation ( a necessity for her). After I had my way with her I brought her off using my fingers on her little love button. She confessed the sensation was very intense but she was much more interested in cumming that being stretched to an extreme.

I went to a Mott the Hoople concert way back in '73 (I think). Ian Hunter told a story about the guitar player getting ready to mount some babe at an after concert orgy. The girl said, as she looked at his penis, "Who do your going to satisfy with that little thing?" the guitarist answered her with one word "ME!"

I and (I think) my GF both agree with the old adage "A fool with a tool is still a fool".

allalone46
04-18-2004, 08:40 AM
Never hered of a woman that can take a 14in in her, I don't think any woman could take more than 6in unless it was just after she gave berth, and she is still streched inside from the fetise.

Fanny Warmer
04-18-2004, 09:47 AM
Never hered of a woman that can take a 14in in her, I don't think any woman could take more than 6in unless it was just after she gave berth, and she is still streched inside from the fetise.


Hi alalone46,

I guess your responding to my post. Perhaps you misunderstood. When I entered her it was next to the dildo not behind it (girth not depth). If I pushed it that far in the head of it would probably lodge somewhere in her lungs. :o

Since you bring up the subject of babies I usually cringe when somebody announce a new birth, 8.6 lbs and 18 inches long or something like that. Why don't they say 18 inches tall? :rolleyes:

Curtis
04-18-2004, 10:06 AM
Since you bring up the subject of babies I usually cringe when somebody announce a new birth, 8.6 lbs and 18 inches long or something like that. Why don't they say 18 inches tall? :rolleyes:

Uhm, I guess because, until it's a walking, it isn't tall, it's long. The height of a newborn would only be four or five inches, because it can't stand up. :confused:

MrJerseyGuy
04-18-2004, 11:20 AM
All I know is that mine has always been big enough to please me!

petpleasureyes
04-18-2004, 01:35 PM
i had a best friend (female) in college who had me set her up with this guy in one of my classes who she thought was hot. A week or so later she came and asked me for advice on how to break up with him. i asked her what was up, had he hurt her or something. She finally confessed that the guy had the smallest penis she'd ever seen, she swore it was only 2 inches long when hard - she said she couldn't even feel it inside her when they slept together. She wanted to break up with him, but also not hurt his feelings because he was such a nice guy. i let her make a confession to the guy that her and i were both in love and had been keeping our love secret for so long not wanting to break up our friendship. It worked, but i did feel sorry for the guy because i'm sure he knew the lie and most likely had gone through this many times. i don't know how much surgery could do for him because from everything i've read, at the most only between 1 to 2 inches can be gained from such an operation. But i guess 3 or 4 inches is better than 2.

allalone46
04-18-2004, 03:22 PM
And that is why if the guy is bigger than 4-6in a woman can't take all of him. So size doesn't always mater. Those oversized guys can't do any better than a average size, and than he can't do as well. Like my Dad always told me it isn't the size of the hook but how you wiggal the worm.

fetish101
04-18-2004, 04:19 PM
And that is why if the guy is bigger than 4-6in a woman can't take all of him. So size doesn't always mater. Those oversized guys can't do any better than a average size, and than he can't do as well. Like my Dad always told me it isn't the size of the hook but how you wiggal the worm.

that's probably true for some, maybe most women, but I have 7-8 inches (depending on however you measure it) and it all fits in there..

the real measure is the radius or circumference of the penis.

Kallie Thomas
04-18-2004, 05:01 PM
The vagina cannot accommodate 7-8 inches. However, it feels as though the entire length is in because there's a couple of inches of labial tissue on the outside of the vagina. Depending on her position, a woman can typically accommodate 5-6 inches.

I've been reading this thread with much interest, and finally had to weigh in. Size does matter. I've never met an experienced woman who said, "It's not the size, it's what he does with it" without rolling her eyes. That's just my personal experience. That said, it's not so much the length as the girth. Girth matters in a big way. It creates the sensation of being "filled," and a thick penis creates more friction and more pulling of the labial tissues. More pulling equals more movement of the clitoral hood, which creates more pleasure.

Zero brag here--I am very tight. I always have been, and any intercourse session begins with a bit of pain, and ends with my husband admonishing me to "let go." But I've been with a man who lacked the girth my husband has (and no, he's no porn star, he's not sporting a 2 1/2-3 inch girth), and the sensations between initial insertion and culmination of the act are seriously reduced without the girth. It just plain doesn't feel as good with a narrow penis.

'least not to me :)

Kallie

redEva
04-19-2004, 04:52 PM
The vagina cannot accommodate 7-8 inches.
Kallie

As much as I agree on account of everything else with you, you are wrong about this. It’s all individual and yes, the thickness accounts for more than length but I personally can comfortably accommodate 9 inch dildo for extended period of time – and that is fully buried inside. Makes you sit much straighter than normal but it does fit *gigles*

petpleasureyes
04-19-2004, 05:24 PM
For me, i'm quite happy with my penis size. i'm also happy with the way my penis looks. Having been trained to fuck animals, i'm more concerned with using it to put on a good show for those watching. Also, a larger penis might have meant i wouldn't have been selected to undergo this training. Ha! i know this is funny, so feel free to laugh. i have a great sense of humor about my training and part of my performance includes amusing others as well as thrilling them.

fetish101
04-19-2004, 06:22 PM
As much as I agree on account of everything else with you, you are wrong about this. It’s all individual and yes, the thickness accounts for more than length but I personally can comfortably accommodate 9 inch dildo for extended period of time – and that is fully buried inside. Makes you sit much straighter than normal but it does fit *gigles*

lol..I wasn't going to argue it...but now I have back up!

Kallie Thomas
04-19-2004, 06:28 PM
lol..I wasn't going to argue it...but now I have back up!


ROFL, I won't argue, even though I'd put money on 7-8 inches in, and the remaining 1-2 inches in labial tissue. Otherwise, you'd have to use pliers to get the thing out ;)

It sounds delicious, either way :)

Kallie

Kallie Thomas
04-19-2004, 07:49 PM
. . . it sure is nice to be able to talk about sexual matters in a straightforward way.

When I was in college, I took an honors level course in human sexuality. The class was, unfortunately, packed with little kids who did a lot of snickering and giggling, but not a whole lot of contributing. One day, we were discussing barrier forms of birth control, specifically, the cervical cap and diaphragm. After the professor explained insertion, one little ball of fluff asked, "But . . . what do you use to get it out?" I truly thought she must be kidding, so I piped in with, "Needle nosed pliers." She asked, "Really? Doesn't that hurt?" One look at her fluffy little face and I knew she thought I was serious. I gave her a little finger-waggling wave and said, "With your fingers." Her cheeks flamed, mouth turned down, and she let out with a disgusted, "Ewwww!"

I told her that, barring a tragic rugby mishap, that vagina was going to be attached to her for the rest of her life, so she'd better get used to it.

It's nice to have a crowd that can discuss these things :)

Kallie

AndrewBlack
04-20-2004, 02:28 AM
LOL Kallie! Crazy how someone can be scared of their own body isn't it. For my part I have been with small girls who I cannot fully enter and find it less satisfying than 'more roomy' ladies, like all bits of the body there is considerable variation between people.

MrJerseyGuy
04-22-2004, 04:06 AM
My G/F is a tiny little thing, but can accomodate quite a huge dildoe and seems to enjoy it more with the bigger ones. Not so much the length, but the thickness. I do Ok on my own, but I can't compete with the "Jackhammer"! I guess that's why God invented rubber!

redEva
04-22-2004, 08:04 AM
. . . it sure is nice to be able to talk about sexual matters in a straightforward way.
When I was in college, I took an honors level course in human sexuality. ...
Kallie

Oh brother! (sister ;)) Kallie, do I know what you talking about! I was back to college when I was 32, and did the same mistake of taking an ‘easy mark’ human sexuality course. You were kind to kids – I just ignored them.

Unfortunately, I had it in summer, and it is practice here (don’t know if it is same everywhere else) to split semester and have 2 teachers teach subject. First half was taught by this hunk of a guy, most attractive man I saw in long time (in his 50+). He was funny, open and at ease. Joy! Second half I did not have such luck. Bible belt belle stood in front of us and tried to explain that there are sexually deviant people that practice something vaguely known as BDSM; which they use to compensate for their early childhood and previous lived through abuse and or latent and not so latent aggression.

I was hushed out of the class by my very, very good classmate who knew I had Master at the time, and she just may have saved me that “easy mark” from becoming a fail in the subject you can not fail! :mad:

pandemonium
04-22-2004, 11:05 PM
I'm one of those that size does matter.

I've met the 4.5.

jaeangel
06-07-2004, 07:04 AM
Y'know, my hubbyasked me if i thought he was big. I was puzzled why he would want me to measure his cock. It came out at seven inches.
I still don't understand what it is about the size. From what I just read in the article above, there's no really safe way to enlarge the penis, so why bother? For that matter, there's no really safe way to enlarge the breasts either; waht about all those implants leaking and causing problems and stuff?
You are who you are. Accept yourself the way you are, and you'll be a happier person for it. And if your partner is the one complaining about your size, you need to find another partner. Someone who really cares about you, enough to share initmate activities with you, won't care that your cock is smaller than Joe Schlong on the TV screen.
Two words for you to remember: digital enhancement. That cock on the screen may look 14 inches long, but it could also be an extension, or it could be digitally enhanced to look longer. Did you know, some of those girls in the 'Barely Legal' type flicks actually might be way more than eighteen? Some of them are in their twenties and thirties. The producers of the videos use the same software that was developed to age up missing children so you know what they look like now, only they use it to age down the girls in those pornos. They even de-age some twenty year olds to look ten to sell kiddie porn. And it's perfectly legal.
Accept who you are. Don't try to change. While there are lots of cosmetic surgeries out there to change the way you look outside, remember, inside, you're still going to be the same person. Be happy with the person inside that skin. If your partner isn't happy with you, find another partner.

YoungBlood
06-15-2004, 10:42 PM
I completely agree with Tourguide that this whole topic is completely pointless and does not really need to be discussed. I just wanted to put an end to this average size argument. I am not going to join in on the what women prefer or what can fit in women side of this argument.

On another not whoever started this thread should have just done some research. it took me a whole 15 seconds to find this info on a search engine :rolleyes:




http://www.edu.uni-klu.ac.at/~amiklaut/dr_nick/answer19.htm


this was a study done at te Alfred C. Kinsey Institute for Sex Research

slavelucy
06-16-2004, 05:59 AM
I completely agree with Tourguide that this whole topic is completely pointless and does not really need to be discussed. I just wanted to put an end to this average size argument. I am not going to join in on the what women prefer or what can fit in women side of this argument.


Hmmm, what a novel approach to posting...criticising a thread and then bringing it back to life by contributing to it! LOL! :D

i think that link was probably the sort of information the thread starter was looking for though..although a word of caution, upon doing the same 15 second search, i found the following reaearch, carried out by Durex, which gives a different answer to the age old question! (not to mention the hundreds of other surveys, all presenting slightly different findings).

http://www.pridepenis.co.uk/What_is_the_average_size_of_a_penis.htm

sl