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subcami
08-29-2005, 01:24 PM
Ive been interested in bdsm for a long time and know many people who are legitimate and live a 24/7 lifestyle. I ran across a friend who has recently found religion and although has lived the lifestyle for a long time she is now questioning herself and her religion. Has anyone ever came across this or people who have both and are comfortable with theirselves and religion. If so please let me know so i can give her advice for my friend is severely depressed and confused. thanks in advance.
cami

Shadoom
08-29-2005, 02:24 PM
Ive been interested in bdsm for a long time and know many people who are legitimate and live a 24/7 lifestyle. I ran across a friend who has recently found religion and although has lived the lifestyle for a long time she is now questioning herself and her religion. Has anyone ever came across this or people who have both and are comfortable with theirselves and religion. If so please let me know so i can give her advice for my friend is severely depressed and confused. thanks in advance.
cami

Is it correct to assume that your friend is a Christian. likely a protestant? A lot depends on her denomination's view of sexual practice.

Yeshua (Jesus) preached tolerance and acceptance; the Golden Rule states a very clear and simple philosophy of treating others as you would like to be treated. Respecting the needs and eesires of another human being is a Good Thing. BDSM and related activities are only "wrong" if they violate a person's right to say "no".

If your friend's chruch is teaching anything different, then their doctrine is not based on the words of Jesus as recorded in scripture.

Caitlin
08-29-2005, 02:26 PM
Hi subcami,

You don’t really say much about your friend except that she lives the lifestyle, found religion, and is depressed and confused.

I think you may find that your friend has quite possibly been depressed and confused for awhile now, and that is the reason why she has ‘recently found religion’ in an attempt to find either acceptance, legitimacy, guidance or a need to believe in ‘something’.

Just because she has found religion, doesn’t mean that I this is the reason why she is questioning herself or her lifestyle. I think she has started the questioning process long before. Maybe the reason she is depressed and confused, is why she sought out religion.

To my knowledge, the bible doesn’t advocate against having kinky sex, only same sex partners.

I have know several people who are Christians, and are into BDSM and are comfortable with it, but are mindful of who knows they are into BDSM, as the majority of people are regardless whether they ‘believe‘ in a greater being or not.

I think you need to urge your friend to seek professional advice and/or treatment. There may be a reason to her depression. It could either be a medical or psychological problem. It could be caused by an hormonal imbalance or by a bad life experience(s).

It is good that she has a friend like you to be concerned for her. Hope this helps you cami.

subcami
08-29-2005, 02:33 PM
Thank you both for your help. My friend wasnt depressed before she found her religion. I think most of stems from her understanding. I will talk to her and try to help and if I cant I will recommed she sees someone she can.
thanks again,
cami

His_pita
08-30-2005, 09:30 AM
If she is new to her faith it can be confusing and she needs to study and find out the truth for her. I would suggest prayer and taking her problems to the source.

I have been a Christian my whole life and don't feel any conflict with my faith and wanting to have 24/7 D/s relationship. But, these are things that everyone has to work out for themselves. The Bible does tell us that if we feel in our heart that something is a sin then for us it is. She needs to understand what her feelings are where they are coming from.

Kaori-san
09-12-2005, 04:07 AM
If your friend does not feel to embarrassed to ask.. maybe she could talk to the local person at her church she trusts and discuss with them about any confictions etc. So that she can be sure in her mind that what she is doing is ok.

richard98275
10-02-2005, 01:22 PM
This may be a dead thread, but I am a Christian and don't have any problem with BDSM play. Christianity is a relationship with Jesus. In my experience He is with me where I am and will never leave or forsake me. I don't have to have a list of positives that outweigh the negatives. Once I accepted Him as my Lord and Savior he came into my life and IMHO understands loving BDSM as well as I do.

He is the voice who would condem me if I were to rape an unwilling woman, but He gives me nifty ideas when I fantasy rape my wife!

a_curious_poet
10-02-2005, 09:45 PM
I haven't posted in a "long" time. So, "hi". :waves:

I, too, struggle with my own faith and my interests in the BDSM realm. This is something in which took a few years to personally sort through (on my end).

I think aspects of BDSM can be intergrated into your own marriage for pleasure. If you are persuing aspects of this lifestyle between you and your wife, I do not think those times of play will have a negative affect on your personal relationship with God.

However (IMO), you cannot offer to train/own another submissive other then your wife. Yes, you can participate in active forums (like this one) but...need to be careful of your actions.

As long as what you read or see online does not persuay you to break your vows to thy Lord and marriage, I do not see harm.

I'm still struggling to get both my faith and my interests in BDSM in order, but this is what I've come to thusfar. Sowwie for beating a dead topic on its head. :)

Bald_J_and_F
10-03-2005, 12:15 AM
We are High Priestesses of a pagan religion that worships Gaia, the ancient Greek Goddess of the Earth. We have no problem combining our faith with BDSM. In fact the complete hairlessness we acquired due to our serving is a symbol of purity in our religion.

Jones, Nikka
10-03-2005, 01:09 AM
I find bdsm to be more than compatible with most faiths. It is all about love.
Yes indeed it is a different way of espressing love but in a sense it is the purest kind of love, giving of yourself totally, body, will, power, soul and mind. If it makes you happy and does not hurt anyone else, it is good for you.

Did not St-Paul write : "Be always happy"?

If you want an even clearer version of the Golden rule, read my signature.

karisma
10-03-2005, 08:59 AM
We are High Priestesses of a pagan religion that worships Gaia, the ancient Greek Goddess of the Earth. We have no problem combining our faith with BDSM. In fact the complete hairlessness we acquired due to our serving is a symbol of purity in our religion.

As a pagan myself (since 11-13 yrs of age) I find that interesting, how does being bald have anything to do with anything? -- is hair considered to be none-pure to you? In any regard It's complete news to me, but pagans are a diverse bunch (like everyone else), so i'm asking from pure curiousness.

Goddess bless!

MistressRaven
10-03-2005, 09:33 AM
Bald J & F

Like yourselves and Karisma, I am also Pagan, and basically just as curious as to the symbolism of a bald head?

Bald_J_and_F
10-03-2005, 12:51 PM
As a pagan myself (since 11-13 yrs of age) I find that interesting, how does being bald have anything to do with anything? -- is hair considered to be none-pure to you? In any regard It's complete news to me, but pagans are a diverse bunch (like everyone else), so i'm asking from pure curiousness.

Goddess bless!
Well, we were hairless already due to Mistresses orders when we founded the religion (we don't even have eyelashes), but it might interest you that ancient Egyptian priests were completely hairless too, for the reason we stated: A symbol of purity.