View Full Version : Codes For Poetry
Talia
09-04-2006, 10:21 AM
Ok Everyone,
We are having a hard time in getting enough interest for having codes for poetry on the main story page. SO, I am looking to generate enough interest for these votes.
I love poetry. I love it more than writing stories. I want to be able to share my written work with others and I am hoping other authors and reader will want the same.
Other than Silke's vote I am hoping to get positive votes.
SB
Silke
09-04-2006, 10:41 AM
You even have my vote, hon...I might move my work to another thread, but I still think it's a cool idea. :)
Talia
09-04-2006, 11:07 AM
((((((hugs Silke)))))
MsUther
09-04-2006, 12:51 PM
:super: Ya!
Confessor_Ed
09-04-2006, 01:07 PM
Ladies,
I've usually had difficulty getting involved in understanding poetry. Recently, I'll spent more itme in these threads than anywhere else, probably because Asia's thread has gone tbh. This is an excellent idea. Who would have thought I'd come to this site and learn about poetry!
Ed. x
Timberwolf
09-04-2006, 03:53 PM
I think we know where my vote lies. ;)
Warbaby1943
09-04-2006, 03:56 PM
Make it easier to find and they are usually very interesting.
Talia
09-04-2006, 05:33 PM
I think we know where my vote lies. ;)
:bigkiss:
Widget
09-04-2006, 05:58 PM
voted and counted
Sir_G
09-04-2006, 06:59 PM
Nahh poetry sucks pah! Emotional, nonsensical dribble written by people lost in a fantasy world full of angst and fluffy bunnies. No resemblance intended Rabbit. lol.
And yet my mouse was drawn inexorably to the yes vote for some unexplainable reason.
Ahh I curse the day and rail at the sun and moon,
perchance this vote may lead to my doom.
Bleeding Roses lay at my feet,
have I already visited the field of my defeat.
To be a literary Hero - and yet know my contributions add up to zero,
and I continue to die a little everyday.
And whilst I can't tell you where I'm going I will still be here
Lost in my field of dreams and feeling you all so very near and dear.
Pah! See what I mean! Bah humbug!
MasterRob{cali}
09-04-2006, 07:34 PM
I just voted yes As i have enjoy reading th epoems and even place two myself.
Talia
09-04-2006, 07:41 PM
I just voted yes As i have enjoy reading th epoems and even place two myself.
oh yes and I enjoyed those very much.
Rabbit1
09-07-2006, 07:10 AM
Hmmmmmm 18 votes out of 17,000+ members not looking good
looks like the main intrest for the story page is stories :rolleyes:
Timberwolf
09-07-2006, 08:15 AM
"Hmmmmmm 18 votes out of 17,000+ members not looking good "
Yeah I'm sure all 17 000 of them swung by the thread and just didn't vote. In fact I'm pretty sure all 17 000 of them visit here all the time. The thousands upon thousands that have never made a single post because they only created an account to use the chatroom, for example.
Throwing that 17 000 number around is just silly, I'm sorry. It in no way makes any effort to reflect the genuine active membership.
I'd also like to point out, asking us (the poetry group) to prove the writing is popular *before it is published* is a totally absurd hoop that no other form of writing on the site would ever be asked to jump through. By that same standard any story that gets enough bad reviews should be removed due to being unpopular with the masses.
Also, the idea that writing, in terms of it's worth to be posted, should be judged solely on it's popularity (which seems to be the only factor that concerns you), is not one I'm particulalry pleased with.
Quite frankly you're going out of your way to make this unecessarily difficult, and with very litttle (if any) valid reasoning. If people don't want to read the poetry then DON'T READ IT. All we're asking for is to give people the opportunity to make that choice.
Timberwolf
09-07-2006, 08:41 AM
Obvioulsy not all of the poetry posted on the forums applies to the main BDSM library. Some of the nonerotic stuff is obviousloy out of place. But there's no reason to deny entry to the BDSM-based material. Nobody's going to tell me with a straight face that "Wolf" doesn't have as much a place in that library as anything else.
Tell you what. Since this is a library question, ask it to the library itself. You put a poll on the BDSM library page itself. Code for that sort of thing is very simple and easy to find. Simple question: "Would you like to see BDSM-based poetry as part of the library?" Yes or no answers. If we lose that vote, it's the last you'll ever hear of it from me.
MsUther
09-07-2006, 09:00 AM
The wolf is snarling...and I like it!
I`ll hold your hand in front of the stern look from our cane master here (I`m sure he knows about your switchness Timberwolf...Are you excitedly worried?:26: )
But come on people, let the votes start showering this post! Please?
:284:
Timberwolf
09-07-2006, 09:25 AM
You know a couple weeks ago I really didn't care one way or the other if the poetry was included in the main library. But the more I think about it the more it annoys me that we aren't allowed in, but anyone who writes a cheap C-level porno script is.
Poetry's never going to win popularity contests. That doesn't stop most libraries from reserving at least one shelf for it anyway.
MsUther
09-07-2006, 10:04 AM
I understand. And you are right.
I`m sorry to say that i have never read much poetry. A text and a piece here and there, yes. But never really read it.
This place has become my best source for poetic texts, erotic ones or non erotic. And i would really appreciate the genre getting its own place in the library. It will be much more available for everyone to find and enjoy.
I want the people contributing to this site with poetry to get their own thread in the story page. And i want me as a reader to have more and easier accsess to these postings.
Rabbit1
09-07-2006, 01:34 PM
You know a couple weeks ago I really didn't care one way or the other if the poetry was included in the main library. But the more I think about it the more it annoys me that we aren't allowed in, but anyone who writes a cheap C-level porno script is.
Poetry's never going to win popularity contests. That doesn't stop most libraries from reserving at least one shelf for it anyway.
Friend I suggest you calm down ---the site is Bdsm Stories---that is what the site is about ---I was willing to give it a shot if enough intrest was shown it is not just poems codes if you look at other requested code additions my answer is the same ---if enough intrest in it is raised I will do it ---it is a bloody pain in the ass with this software to change things ---so I will not do it for a handfull of people----now I did not ask for a majoritory of the 17000 members to do this but I think with all the viewes in this section ---100 is not to many to ask for----
the poetry subforum ---started out as a thread only ---until we saw there was enough intrest to make a forum of its own ----
Yes I set the rules about showing intrest before changing things ---I am the one who has to do the work-----like it or not that is the way it is
Timberwolf
09-07-2006, 04:03 PM
"now I did not ask for a majoritory of the 17000 members to do this "
Thankfully not as with our genuine active membership (meaning people who bother to post something on any regular basis) on the boards ranging from around 150-250 that would have been even more absurd.
"but I think with all the viewes in this section ---100 is not to many to ask for----"
Considering there aren't according to your own forum's counter 100 diffrent people reading this thread or the poetry subforum (or indeed, 100 different people reading most of the threads here in general, as obvioulsy many of the hits on long threads are repeat viewers), I'd like to see how you work out the math on that.
Judging from your forums own counters, most threads (even the most popular ones on this forum) are being viewed by somewhere between 45-60 different people, tops. With on top of that a sprinkling of the "casual forumers".
You also totally ignored my suggestion of placing a poll (the code for which can be found for free in one google search) on the main story page, and asking a much broader spectrum of your readership what they think. Which, to this point, is the only valid suggestion for gauging interest I have seen offered.
"Yes I set the rules about showing intrest before changing things"
And you've yet to provide a valid alternative method of showing me how we are supposed to drum up/properly judge interest without the work being seen by the vast majority of your viewership. I offered you a simple and effective one, which you've totally refused to even acknowedge.
"like it or not that is the way it is"
Well, that certainly speaks volumes.
ladywrites
09-07-2006, 05:07 PM
Well most of my poetry is so far non erotic...and im very new here so maybe my opinion doesnt count for much,.... but id agree that popularity isnt neccessarily good measure of the quality of someones writing. It would be nice to see the art of poetry given equal weight with the art of story writing.
Talia
09-07-2006, 06:11 PM
I already suggested a poll on the main page...can't happen...I've thought of everything I can to get this a go.. Rabbit is insistant on 100 votes...Well...I'm going to get them....one way or another...I've given this poll 30 days. If we don't get enough votes in that amount of time then I feel my want of having all of our poetry in the main page as a code will fail....Really, I have a passion for this to work. This poll has only been up for three days....we have 27 more days to go. So let's stop bickering and go promote poetry.....anyone have room in their signatures? I know I do........
Rabbit....you sound cynical....I'll get my votes....(running off to form a posse)
Rabbit1
09-07-2006, 07:47 PM
I already suggested a poll on the main page...can't happen...I've thought of everything I can to get this a go.. Rabbit is insistant on 100 votes...Well...I'm going to get them....one way or another...I've given this poll 30 days. If we don't get enough votes in that amount of time then I feel my want of having all of our poetry in the main page as a code will fail....Really, I have a passion for this to work. This poll has only been up for three days....we have 27 more days to go. So let's stop bickering and go promote poetry.....anyone have room in their signatures? I know I do........
Rabbit....you sound cynical....I'll get my votes....(running off to form a posse)
I am not being cynical ---I am just telling you that it is a hell of a lot of work to set up and I treat this the same as I did any other code request no different ---if there is not enough intrest then I am not going to waste my time doing it ---that is pretty simple ---if 100 people do not view or vote yes that tells there is not much intrest
OK- time for the great Tojo to comment. :dont:
I don't mind reading the odd poem, but don't really fuss too much.
What's important to me is the sense of community here- hint hint....
Settle down kiddies.
Tojo
Rabbit1
09-07-2006, 09:11 PM
Well most of my poetry is so far non erotic...and im very new here so maybe my opinion doesnt count for much,.... but id agree that popularity isnt neccessarily good measure of the quality of someones writing. It would be nice to see the art of poetry given equal weight with the art of story writing.
Poetry is very important --I am not trying to belittle it ---That is why it has its own seperate forum ---instead of the thread it started out in.
but I do not know if it is worth the time and effort to put on the main story page ----like I said my mind can be changed I am willing if there is enough intrest shown ---I am the one who has to put in the time and effort to make the changes ---and every mod here will tell you ---there is no changes untill it is decussed by all mods ---all forseeable problems worked out ----then and only then is a change made
on the front page it is kind of different ---the changes are not as easily made ---I have had many suggestions for code additions ---and have done very few because of the same reason ---only a few people seemed to want it ----the front page is basicly a story page ----if enough people show an intrest then there will be a change ---I think that is fair ----you want change get out there and get your friends to vote ----other wise you still have a seperate forum to post poetry in.
Don't know why that is so hard to understand --except there are always people who think they know better ---but have no idea of the work involved --I could have just said no way ---it is strictly for stories ---but I am willing to let the members speak for what they want ----but it is a majoritory of the members not the few---I can not be any fairer than that ---no one on the story page asked for a poetry section ---the members of the forum did ---so the members of the forum will have to show support for it
and as of this minute there were 167 view of this thread well more than enought if they were interested --to make it happen
frankee
09-07-2006, 09:36 PM
my vote was a yes Wolfie *blows a kiss to You *
Widget
09-07-2006, 09:43 PM
Wow I had no idea that the first post i made about this would even generate this much interest. I completely understand why you want to see more support of the idea so I hope that everyone who wanders in at least takes the time to vote.
I do wish to point out however that 167 views does not mean from 167 different members. It only means views.
dzire2pleeze
09-07-2006, 09:45 PM
Okay...I added my two cents and voted for...
sorry Rabbit, i know a lot of work is involved and I, for one, appreciate your efforts to make this one of the best sites there is.
In my humble opinion...adding a code for poetry to the Main Story page will further enhance the library.
MsUther
09-08-2006, 02:33 AM
Kisses for everyone!
:rose: :bigkiss: :rose:
Coffe and cookies anyone? Tea Tojo?
Ok, when we done here, we jump into the huge outdoor bubblebath and discuss the formalities further from there. Naked....that is. Yummy! Wet fur:cheerlead
Talia
09-08-2006, 03:23 AM
Rabbit...Everyone
I wanted to make sure you all know that I do appreciate Rabbit's efforts here. I do underderstand his want to wait for the interest be there before putting in the codes. If he wants proof of the interest, I am willing to go out there and show that there is interest. I'm not doing this to divide the Library, far from it...but to bring us together as a community and get our work read. I agree with d2p....poetry section would enhance this site. So lets just settle down and get the votes. I'm not being hostile, but being passionate about all the work that my fellow writers put into their writings. So, let's not go overboard and just get votes....
SB
Rabbit1
09-08-2006, 03:24 AM
Wow I had no idea that the first post i made about this would even generate this much interest. I completely understand why you want to see more support of the idea so I hope that everyone who wanders in at least takes the time to vote.
I do wish to point out however that 167 views does not mean from 167 different members. It only means views.
I know that 167 views does not mean 167 individuals but I do think it is more that the members who took the time to vote on the issue---Voting is the fairest way of doing this ---or have you visited 167 times ---lol
and yes it may or may not enhance the story page ---only time will tell there was not much intrest at all in the comment and suggestion forum for this --I am the one who suggested to SB that it would be easier to get the voted in the heart of the subject matter ---the poetry forum ---if you can not get it here you are not going to get it
as far as something on the front page about it ---look at it this way ---we have between 3 to 4 million visitors viewing that page everyday ---now go back an see how many even review a story ---you see two or three reviews of a story on average
there are members who have been members of the forums for years --and still visit ----but have zero posts -----
so if you are going to get the votes nessary here is where it will happen and to review a story or vote on a poll you have to be a member of the forum anyway
poetic_justice
09-09-2006, 03:10 AM
You have my vote for this, I love poetry far too much to let it slide.
TheKnothead
09-09-2006, 02:27 PM
It seems like a rhetorical question to me...
Mark me down as a "Yes"
Ozme52
09-09-2006, 03:54 PM
My suggestion is that you add codes for erotic and non-erotic poetry. The assumption being that anything else is a story, (i.e., prose.) Any other existing codes will suffice if the poet wants to annotate the contents of the poem.
This will work until you get someone writing long stories in poetic formats ala The Bard or Homer.
Timberwolf
09-11-2006, 12:29 PM
As far as the poll itself goes:
"No, I don't care for Poetry"
So what. I don't care for snuff. Or rape. Or stories involving 13 year olds. Doesn't mean it doesn't belong in the library.
And on the "library is for strories" thing: Since when is poetry not a form of storytelling?
Talia
09-11-2006, 07:42 PM
Ok Timberwolf..I know you are as impassioned about this as I am. But right now, it seems that we're just going round and round. So far, it's only been a week since I posted this poll. We have 3 more...45 definites already.....all we need is 55 more...I'm excited. just think...if we have interest in this with the poll only be here for a week...what will another 3 bring in. Right now, we all are working on getting this off the ground...Let's just work toward that goal.
SB
Timberwolf
09-11-2006, 07:51 PM
Agreed on that. And hey I'm not looking to stir any trouble. I have no issue with anyone personally (that I've been made aware of). But at the same time I think the quesiton "Since when is poetry not a form of storytelling?" is a legitimate one that's worth asking, and pointing out for anyone who might be sitting on the fence.
Talia
09-11-2006, 09:42 PM
yep..and you are right...poetry is a form of story telling..it's more elegent...
Rabbit1
09-11-2006, 10:37 PM
yep..and you are right...poetry is a form of story telling..it's more elegent...
Thats right I agree ---and it puts it in a class by it self ---and that is the issue at hand ---I am not against this ---I am only looking to make sure it is worth my time and effort to do it ---
Talia
09-12-2006, 07:09 AM
Really Rabbit...look at the poll..in one week we've gotten 49 votes. That's 60% of the members would like to see poetry. That alone should show there is enough interest. With the traffic to the main page...hell yeah there would be more interest..more so then here at the forums where less traffic comes.
Rabbit1
09-13-2006, 05:26 AM
yes love and also some more negitive votes were brought in also ---lets give it a fair run ---it has been this long in not having it on the front page ---a few weeks longer will tell the tale so to speak
Talia
09-13-2006, 08:51 AM
yes love and also some more negitive votes were brought in also ---lets give it a fair run ---it has been this long in not having it on the front page ---a few weeks longer will tell the tale so to speak
Grrrrrrr! And more positive votes came in too! Still there are close to 60% who would like to see poetry! But we'll still give this it's run...but I'm telling you after the way the vote is going over half the forum visitors are interested in this. I believe, at least, over 70% would be interested of those that only visit the main page.
SB
ColinClout(c)
09-13-2006, 09:04 AM
walks into the 'Aye' lobby
Timberwolf
09-13-2006, 09:47 AM
Never mind. I think everyone has gathered that the numbers speak for themselves.
Rabbit1
09-14-2006, 08:51 AM
sorry but this is the way things are done---even a minor change in the forums are voted on ---and the votes do make a difference ----we will know when the poll ends ---and the fat lady sings so to speak
Widget
09-14-2006, 04:17 PM
arrrggg all you don't care never mattered to me before people!!!!! If it doesn't matter to you then please just vote yes for the people it does matter too!!!
*sends out rounds of NOT A BRIBE LATTE's*
Rabbit1
09-16-2006, 06:40 AM
arrrggg all you don't care never mattered to me before people!!!!! If it doesn't matter to you then please just vote yes for the people it does matter too!!!
*sends out rounds of NOT A BRIBE LATTE's*
would it not be nice if this much intrest was also generated in the story contest polls
Silke
09-16-2006, 12:34 PM
yep, I agree Rabbit. See my sig? ;)
SwitchyTom
09-19-2006, 12:43 PM
Can't get enough of that poetry stuff. Gimme rhyme every time.
Tom
slaveangel{HM}
09-30-2006, 08:15 PM
I voted too earlier! x 100 lol... It would be wonderful to have such an area to show all our talented poets, other than in here.
Latte's?? *perks up* SOLD!
Talia
09-30-2006, 08:35 PM
Well everyone...I want to thank you all for the fight. I do beleive it was very much worth it. But it's now almost the 1st of October and we don't have the 100 votes Rabbit is insistant on.
I want to thank all of those who went out of their way to help me by putting a link in the signatures for this poll. You all are wonderful and glad you helped me in this cause. Your help just shows how happy I am to call this place my home and all of you my Friends..even if WB put in his signauter "so I can have my way". lol
Thank you all so very much, it was a great fight.
SB
Rabbit1
09-30-2006, 10:13 PM
Well everyone...I want to thank you all for the fight. I do beleive it was very much worth it. But it's now almost the 1st of October and we don't have the 100 votes Rabbit is insistant on.
I want to thank all of those who went out of their way to help me by putting a link in the signatures for this poll. You all are wonderful and glad you helped me in this cause. Your help just shows how happy I am to call this place my home and all of you my Friends..even if WB put in his signauter "so I can have my way". lol
Thank you all so very much, it was a great fight.
SB
sorry love ---but I just wanted you to see for your self ----see I know about it already ---this shares equal space on the main board with stories on Blue Stories forum ---and there just is not much intrest in it as there are the stories. but cheer up you do have your own forum for it --which is more that was was here to begin with --Remember this all began with a sticky thread --and you have great friends who tried to help you out ---and we have some good poets here too
Really they would have gotten burried under the massive stories we have anyway ----the way the front page is published ---