'Knickers'

[Alex Bragi]

The other day, a friend mentioned to me that he found the word ‘knickers’, in a story, a total turn off. I don’t have a problem with that one, however, immediately I read ‘suckled’ ‘suckling’ its like a buck of ice water being thrown over me. Isn't it odd how certain words can do that to you?

[Jones, Nikka]

Originally posted by Alex Bragi
...its like a buck of ice water being thrown over me. Isn't it odd how certain words can do that to you?

Yes indeed! there is one particular phrase that makes me reach for the 'close' button on a story and it is "engorged manhood" or any such silly descriptions some male writers are fond of using. It makes them appear to be obsessed by their erections.

I mean we are all of legal age, otherwise we would not be here. Just called what it is: an erection, and tell me what it will do, not what it looks like.

Yes I know I am being a typical female, not very visual and more interested in getting to the good parts.

[boccaccio2000g]

Originally posted by Jones, Nikka
Yes indeed! there is one particular phrase that makes me reach for the 'close' button on a story and it is "engorged manhood" or any such silly descriptions some male writers are fond of using. It makes them appear to be obsessed by their erections.

I mean we are all of legal age, otherwise we would not be here. Just called what it is: an erection, and tell me what it will do, not what it looks like.



I must plead Guilty as charged as far as using that and similar descriptions goes. But in fairness, Nikka, doesn't telling 'what it looks like' (as regards all the 'naughty bits', not just the male erection, of course) play a huge role in pornography?

But I have my own bete noires, too. The word 'arse' (not the thing itself, mind you) is a turn-off for me. In fact I rarely use any of the Anglo-Saxon vulgarisms for the female anatomy when writing in the third person (although the dialog of my more ruffian-like characters shows no such compunctions).

Another curious thing is how some feminine names "sound" wholly un-erotic to me -- Mary, Alice, Frances, Maude, Jane, to name a few.

Whereas their cognates - Maria, Alicia, Francesca, Madeleine, and Jeannette 'sound' more alluring to me.

Strange how we each have our own quirky little tastes.

Nikka, by the way, is a lovely name, in this regard. ;-)


Boccaccio

[kittenfemme]

I usually choose not to use or like very vulgar descriptive terms, though I'm not adverse to characters using them. That's an important distinction and one that you're very wise to have pointed out boccaccio2000g.

I also agree with you on the aspects of romance languages' femme name pronunciations. I offer that it is, perhaps, because almost everything has a gender in many languages. Kennedy's botched "Ich bin ein Berliner (http://www.urbanlegends.com/language/kennedy_berliner_quote.html)" quote is a perfect example. If he's speaking of Berliner with a male inflection, then he's referring to a male person who resides in Berlin. But saying it with a female inflection, as he did, is speaking of a jelly doughnut. My point is that perhaps those names sound more femme from a language that casually deals with gender inflections in speech. English doesn't for the most part.

Regardless, I agree with you. I particularly find French, Italian, Spanish, and occasionally Russian female names to be quite enticing. A major character in my latest novel has the name Talya (short for Natalya). It's a name that I adore.

And while "engorged manhood" doesn't make me want to close the piece I'm reading, it does pull me away from the story by making me laugh.

[Aurelius]

Great thread, not least because the Canadians and the Americans can probably unite (for a change) against the Brits/Australians.

I'd like to propose bum as a great British word, so soft and curvy and yummy. I can't understand why North Americans have a problem with it. To a British reader it sounds far better than butt or buttocks.

Just for the linguists, both words are Middle English (ie pre 14th century.)

My opinion...
Engorged manhood. NO
Knickers. OK
Suckled, Suckling. OK I guess
Globes (meaning breasts) NO!!
Twat. GOD NO!

[kittenfemme]

LOL Aurelius! I agree that bum is underappreciated in american English. And globes? Ha! Yeah, that would have me rolling with laughter or at least rolling my eyes.

[Kallie Thomas]

I remember the first "dirty book" I ever read--was some bit of gay BDSM stuff I nicked from a roommate. And I was getting into it, too--in a serious way . . . until the emergence of the attacker's "incredible, gargantuan fuck tool."

Bye-bye mood, hello uproarious laughter.

Pretty much anything prefaced with "fuck" can inspire gales of giggling with me. "Fucktool," "Fuckhole," "Fuckbox," etc. Especially if assigned a marvelously overblown adjective--like "incredible" or "fantabulous."

I like cunt (hush ;) ), hole, pussy. I struggle with snatch. And twat? That's my 7th grade English teacher, not a woman's vagina.

Love cock, will use tool or meat just to break up the monotony. Occasionally use dick, but feel funny about it--seems more name calling than describing a penis.

:)
Kallie

[Curtis]

I'm not a 'bum' man, myself, and 'ass' is something you say about someone. 'Butt' is...okay, but 'buttocks' always reminds me of a couple of jokes. Some writer for the old Star Distributors was ennamored of 'cakes' and 'buttcakes'. Gag me.

It's not totally satisfactory, but I tend toward 'rear'.

And 'knickers' causes snickers.

[pop_54]

Odd words don't worry me over much as long as they aren't repeated over and over, then they get on my nerves, they are of course, (being English myself).

'Pussy' Jesus H Christ, it cracks me up, "Arnold thrust his quivering manhood deep into her pussy", hell's bells you get locked up for shagging cats over here.

'Ass' (spelt wrongly) "Arnold eased his dripping wet pork sword out of her pussy and rammed it up her ass" Yee Gods I thought he was bumming the bitch not screwing her donkey, I'm not into beasty.

I don't mind 'Butt', I prefer 'Arse' of course instead of the donkey, 'Pussy' as I say is Ok in small doses, but being a cat lover I don't like to see them get too much abuse. 'Knickers' is fine by me, but 'Panties' again moderation please, we put 3 yr olds in panties over here, women wear knickers.

The usual idiot names for the tool and orifice are a turn off. Anything using 'Throbbing' or 'Monster' or 'Quivering' etc, etc, is out.

I use slang terms and the odd over exaggerated description as humour breaks occasionally myself though I must admit. 'One-eyed-Bed-Snake', 'Trouser Mamba', 'Dripping love chamber', 'Cream filled fuck bucket', but only in light hearted stories.

Normal words that I use commonly and don't object to at all are:
Prick, cock, dick, cunt, fanny, twat (occasionally), vagina and penis are Ok but make it all sound a bit clinical or like kids sex education. Erection is nice in a moderately high class story, but hard-on or bone-on is the best for dirty tales.

My big turn OFF and immediate reaching for the back button is of course the idiot story teller who insists everyone in his/her tale is Mr/Ms/Mrs perfect, and said story teller has carefully measured each character to prove it. Each character of course makes the average reader feel very inadequate.

"Arnold was 6ft 3ins with a 42in chest and weighing 190lbs, his throbbing manhood was protruding to the full 15 inches as he offered it to Marcia, Marcia lay naked in front of him, her 38DD breasts and perfectly formed flat belly along with her incredibly shapely hips and legs causing Arnold's 15 inch monster mamba to quiver and pulse, pre-cum dribbling from his massive purple helmet eye" Oh really, CLICK!!! (What the fuck's pre-cum anyway)

I like to make my characters attractive but somehow normal and attractive, "A big bloke, quite muscular" does for me, "Above average weapon" no silly precise measurement and let the reader decide what average should be. I prefer my woman to be normal as well, "Well put together", "Nicely formed", let the reader do the thinking and visualising, they like that.

Most of my characters aren't perfect, I'm not perfect and I don't expect them to be, I don't go out of my way to make them ugly, just normal "Slightly pot bellied, but not overly so", "strangely small tits for a woman of her general build", but I like little tits, so do a lot of people.

Just a few observations from old pops.

[kittenfemme]

Bwa ha ha ha! Pops! You kill me. Thank you. I needed a good laugh. Massive purple helmet eye... LOL!

[boccaccio2000g]

Originally posted by Aurelius
Great thread, not least because the Canadians and the Americans can probably unite (for a change) against the Brits/Australians.

I'd like to propose bum as a great British word, so soft and curvy and yummy. I can't understand why North Americans have a problem with it. To a British reader it sounds far better than butt or buttocks.

Just for the linguists, both words are Middle English (ie pre 14th century.)

My opinion...
Engorged manhood. NO
Knickers. OK
Suckled, Suckling. OK I guess
Globes (meaning breasts) NO!!
Twat. GOD NO!

Gosh, we colonists have strayed rather far afield, I fear. I don't care for "bum", or "arse" (or "ass", much). Nor "knickers", nor "suckling". I especially don't like the word "bubbies" (breasts) which one encounters in a lot of Victorian (or perhaps faux-Victorian) erotica.

I'm sure I use the term "globes", um, ex-orb-itantly, usually as part of a compound word. I probably use the word "globes" more often than GHWB uses the word "terrorist". Love-globes, girl-globes, lust-globes, pleasure-globes, bottom-globes, nether-globes.

Aurelius, surely we have nothing to fear from spheres themselves. ;-)


Were I not to use such euphemisms, I'm sure that the B - R - E - A - S and T keys on my keyboard would be worn to nubs within weeks.

If I ever think of a way to inject a few of Aurelius' high-stepping pony-girls into the steamy Shanghai of the 1880's, I'd probably use the word 'globetrotters'


But I'm with you on "twat", though -- I don't think I've ever used that word -- or ever will.

'Talya' is a fine name, Kitten, as are Tanya, Tatyana, Irina, Vera, Raisa etc. But names like Olga and Ludmilla seem 'heavier' somehow -- even though they, too, end in soft vowels. Maybe it's the hard consonants in the middle.

It's strange how the mind (using the term loosely in my case) works, isn't it?

Boccaccio

[rallan]

I'm not much of an "arse" fan either. It sounds so harsh and insulting, and isn't nearly as nice as the American "ass", or (as someone else mentioned) the always cute "bum".

Globes is a big pet hate of mine, so I think I won't be looking for any boccaccio stories today :D

Then there's slut and whore. These words are great when they're used in the right place (say, when one character is referring to another and being mean or derogatory), but I don't really like stories where it feels like the author picked "slut" because he's angry at women rather than because it fits the story.

Any cock that's described as "fearsome".

Oh, and "Gor". That's like, a major and humungous alarm bell for me. Gor was bad enough when John Norman did it, and I shudder to think how much worse it can get when online writers of dubious talent have a go :)



RAllan

[GaryWilcox]

Anybody remember Gwen, aka G42?

She had a thing about using the words 'body' and 'betray' in the same sentence, and after reading about seventy variations on the same sentence, I would have to agree. It's beyond cliche. It's a seven-word sentence instead of four paragraphs describing intense inner conflict.

As words for the penis go, I think penis and cock are tops, and tool, dick, organ, etc. are weak.

For the vagina, I like vagina, naturally, and I can deal with pussy now and then. Anybody remember the high school jock in "Heathers", kneeling down in front of poor dead Heather, and praying, "God, why'd you have to kill such great snatch?" Orifice is weak, twat is something someone says-- but as a writer without misogyny, I can't see any reason to use it.

I think any use of 'steel' to describe a condition of flesh makes me chuckle and end a story.

[GaryWilcox]

Originally posted by pop_54
(What the fuck's pre-cum anyway)
A drop of premature ejaculation that forms at the tip of the cock when a penis anticipates emminent sexual activity.

[AndrewBlack]

Roger's Profanisaurus lists the term "Vinegar Strokes" to describe the same!

[kittenfemme]

Vinegar strokes!?!?! Ha! *much giggling*

It's been forever since I've seen Heathers. I don't remeber that line at all Gary. It's MUCH too funny though. I wonder if I can find a sound bite of it on the web...

PS I love this thread.

[kittenfemme]

Heh, I found it in wav format (http://www.geocities.com/Hollywood/Bungalow/2204/Heasound_20.wav). :D

[redEva]

Originally posted by kittenfemme
Heh, I found it in wav format (http://www.geocities.com/Hollywood/Bungalow/2204/Heasound_20.wav). :D

NOT WORKING :( :mad: :confused:

[kittenfemme]

Oh, well that sux0rs. Try the link from this page (http://www.geocities.com/Hollywood/Bungalow/2204/heathers_sounds.html)

[AndrewBlack]

I agree about 'arse' actually, very west country UK ( think hobbit accent in recent films for those not from the UK or familiar ) and highly un-sexy I suppose. More of a curse really ( Oh ARSE! ) One of those things you take for granted until someone points it out!

[woodsman'sgame]

Because of the variety of connotations produced by the same word in different countries and even in different regions of the same country, I think it would be almost impossible to write a story that did not have some word or phrase in it that someone somewhere found either a turn-off or funny.

I find that I usually am not bothered by a word like "knickers," which is not used by most people from the US, if it is used in a story set in England or written by an English writer. The term would also be appropriate if used to describe the underwear of a woman in the mid-19th century in the US. If the term is out of place, however, (for example it is used to describe the under garments of a concubine in China), it irritates me.

[Cleo671]

I don't mind 'knickers', when used in conversation thats removed from intimate acts. I use the term myself in the everyday when someone blows a gasket and I'll chide them"

'Don't get your knickers in a twist/bind'.
But in an erotic way, '..she slowly removed her knickers'..
it doesn't really do it.. but it can have a place.

'Cock' always works, penis is a bit too 'anatomical'(my brain thinks anatomy).. much like '..her tongue flicked over his corona glandis...' when used in the 'action' part, or when a person is using first term and describing their thoughts, even though yes there are people that do think in term so of 'penis' and not 'cock' etc. 'Prick' is a few notches below 'cock' but more coarse 'sounding'. 'Rod' or 'tool', well! they make me laugh really.Make me think of all the Porky's movies.. 'She saw my tool and fainted' type of thing.

I tend to like 'olde' descriptive English words.. like 'strumpet'.. in describing a female. Sometimes I get tired of reading 'slut' all the time.

[Mobius]

The words Knicker, Arse are the british word for ass and pantie.
I realy don't have a problem with them. Does not bother me one way or another.

But the thing that drives me insane like finger nails on a chalk board is when in an other wise good story when the submisive or for that matter dominant talks about her "Cunny".

If you are going to say it say it "CUNT" REPEAT "CUNT" not "cunny
Men do not call there "cocks", "cocky" We can be cocky and we can go off "half cocked". But we do not call our "dick's" "dicky" or our "penises" "peeny"

I hoped I have made my self clear and the next story that has cunny in it the author will be caned on her "cunny"

[pandemonium]

I think I could get over the words if I could past the spelling errors. My spelling sucks. My grammar sucks.
And there is that movement from third person to first that totally is off the beam.
And things like, He blah blah blah and YOU blah blah blah.

[Carmenica Diaz]

I wear knickers, sorry, I'm in Europe :rolleyes:
Panties is so, so so... :p
It really is.

[Morrighan]

The best any of us can do is write the way we learned from childhood, and try not to laugh too hard when we come across the language barrier in other stories. As far as "knickers" go, the only time I've ever heard that word spoken aloud was when I was watching "Are You Being Served" on PBS, and the was Miss Brahms. Based on that and that alone, I took it as sort of a commoner, lower-class word. I know better now, but it still has that connotation for me. As for the American alternative, panties, for us that denotes lingerie without saying lingerie. Underwear is my tighty-whities. My panties are made of satin. If I'm writing erotica, panties it is.

There are no hard and fast rules for what words we can or can't use, and a multilingual site like this is bound to have a few things that make us chuckle. "Arse" always throws me off--there's nothing sexual about it in my mind. To me, it always seems kind of archaic. As far as the alternatives for "penis", "engorged manhood" is just so overused, it's funny. Every bad romance novel flies back in my face. But to me, "enormous fuck-tool" and the like are porn, not erotica. Each to his own, I suppose. I can get past most of it. Spelling, grammar, and verb-tense switching are the things that make me click the back button.

Morrighan

[leo9]

Panties is so, so so...

So totally pants? :->

[Wontworry]

"Arse" always throws me off--there's nothing sexual about it in my mind. To me, it always seems kind of archaic.
Morrighan

While agreeing with you in part, the problem with 'ass' is when there is more than one.

"... the frightened girls waited, kneeling submissively, their asses ready for the abuse that was to follow ..."

So .. anybody want to use a couple of donkeys ?

[slavelucy]

@ WW - LOL! Yeah, Ass doesn't work in the plural, at all...i can't help but think fondly (er..or not!) of donkey rides on on the front at Blackpool!

This whole thing got me thinking of something that occurred once on a flight to America. There was a couple (American)with four children (who were, btw, like, the best behaved children in the world, far better behaved than *i* was on the flight anyway! :D )...when the plan landed, and everyone was grabbing their bags and bits and pieces, i heard the Mother say to the children, loudly "Don't forget your fanny packs"....i stopped dead in collecting my stuff together and thought 'whhhaaattt did she say??', i was horrified!! :eek:

Minutes later, i noticed what the kids all duly picked up, realized the VERY different meaning the word fanny has in America, as compared to the UK...and cancelled the child abuse report!

sl

[Carmenica Diaz]

Let's not discuss fanny in front of the americans! :eek:

[Lord Douche]

The word Fanny has exactly that meaning here in Australia, Lucy! I certainly remember much giggling at school whenever there was a character with the name "Fanny" in a book
LD

[slavelucy]

The word Fanny has exactly that meaning here in Australia, Lucy! I certainly remember much giggling at school whenever there was a character with the name "Fanny" in a book
LD

LOL! Oh yes, i remember good old 'Aunt Fanny' in the 'Famous Five' books causing a great deal of laughter!

sl

[Kallie Thomas]

The word Fanny has exactly that meaning here in Australia, Lucy! I certainly remember much giggling at school whenever there was a character with the name "Fanny" in a book
LD

Fanny means "ass" or "butt" in America, as in "get your fanny in here" or "get off your fanny!" What does it mean elsewhere? "Fanny packs" are exactly that--they're little packs worn over the ass.

<blushes furiously> What am I missing here? Does "Fanny" mean something other than ass or bum elsewhere?


Kallie, who remembers feeling very sorry for an actress named Fanny who used to appear on Match Game. Fanny Flagg, I believe her name was--how's that for a howler of a name?

[slavelucy]

<blushes furiously> What am I missing here? Does "Fanny" mean something other than ass or bum elsewhere?

Um...LOL - over here, fanny is another word for a woman's vagina! Cunt, pussy, fanny - it's quite sort of stuffy but graphic at the same time!

Ah, now *i'm* blushing Kallie! :o

sl

[Kallie Thomas]

Um...LOL - over here, fanny is another word for a woman's vagina! Cunt, pussy, fanny - it's quite sort of stuffy but graphic at the same time!

Ah, now *i'm* blushing Kallie! :o

sl

And now we're blushing together :o

I had no idea. Next time I'm in the UK, I will definitely remember to refrain from shouting to my son, "Get your fanny over here!"

Oh, my.

LOL!

Kallie

[slavelucy]

And now we're blushing together :o

I had no idea. Next time I'm in the UK, I will definitely remember to refrain from shouting to my son, "Get your fanny over here!"

Oh, my.

LOL!

Kallie

LMAO!!! Tee hee!!

Oh! The possibilities of things you could shout!!! *grins*

luce

[rlsk]

I've always preferred cunt to pussy ... I just hate the latter for some reason. It won't make me stop reading, but if I hear someone say it, I have to stifle a groan. And twat ... *shudder* Ugh! And I'm not keen on "box" or "muff" -- I guess I'm picky. And I've always wondered if female ejaculation is really as common as erotica makes it out to be. Every other woman seems to "gush" or "spurt."

I used to hate the word horny, but I've mellowed.

"Penis" sounds a little odd (too clinical, perhaps). I love the work "cock." I don't mind the more flowery phrases like "engorged manhood," but I do get irritated by "meat" or "tool." Or writers who get too clever in their descriptions -- the all-time worst being from a Penthouse Forum letter: "purple-helmeted soldier of pleasure"!

[Lord Douche]

And now we're blushing together :o

I had no idea. Next time I'm in the UK, I will definitely remember to refrain from shouting to my son, "Get your fanny over here!"

Oh, my.

LOL!

Kallie
LOL.

*imagines the son handing you his girlfriend*

LD

[peachers]

i wear panties (well most of the time ).
wet knickers no i think wet panties sounds
much hotter. :p :p :p :p :p

[j]

Interesting that a fanny should be a butt in the US. (I'm widely read but had not seen this one yet).

Fanny was once widely used as a girl's familiar name in France (probably for 'Françoise', like 'Fanchon'. (there's a theater play by Pagnol with that title). Now the interesting thing is that, in the South of France, there is a quaint ritual - 'baiser Fanny'. Meaning, 'to kiss Fanny'. And it DOES mean 'to kiss ass' - you see at the 'pétanque' game, the losers must kiss the ass of the winners (who are rarely, if ever, girls, or even nice to look at).

So 'Fanny' is a butt too - around Marseilles.

As for the use of 'pussy', 'cunt', 'tits' and so on - I think here the writer must think in terms of who her characters are, and how they would speak. Her personal preferences should weigh very little.


Fanny means "ass" or "butt" in America, as in "get your fanny in here" or "get off your fanny!" What does it mean elsewhere? "Fanny packs" are exactly that--they're little packs worn over the ass.

<blushes furiously> What am I missing here? Does "Fanny" mean something other than ass or bum elsewhere?


Kallie, who remembers feeling very sorry for an actress named Fanny who used to appear on Match Game. Fanny Flagg, I believe her name was--how's that for a howler of a name?

[boccaccio2000g]

Kallie, who remembers feeling very sorry for an actress named Fanny who used to appear on Match Game. Fanny Flagg, I believe her name was--how's that for a howler of a name?

Fanny Flagg was indeed something of a TV personality, but she was a fine writer too. Her "Fried Green Tomatoes at the Whistle Stop Cafe" is a wonderful novel, redolent with local color. I can't think of too many books that have four female characters as appealing as the ones in "Fried Green Tomatoes." A popular film (starring Jessica Tandy, Kathy Bates, Mary Stuart Masterson and Mary-Louise Parker) was based on the book.

Boccaccio

[Kallie Thomas]

Fanny Flagg was indeed something of a TV personality, but she was a fine writer too. Her "Fried Green Tomatoes at the Whistle Stop Cafe" is a wonderful novel, redolent with local color. I can't think of too many books that have four female characters as appealing as the ones in "Fried Green Tomatoes." A popular film (starring Jessica Tandy, Kathy Bates, Mary Stuart Masterson and Mary-Louise Parker) was based on the book.

Boccaccio

I had no idea that Fanny Flagg wrote "Fried Green Tomatoes!"

Very cool, good for her!

:)
Kallie

[tyme]

I love this thread. How kewl to hear other writers write about problems I just can't seem to solve. There are certain words I love to use -- I mean I literally get a good feeling using them, writing them, saying them. Cock is one of them, dick just doesn't quite cut it for me, member ... hmmm... nah not for me ... peckar? Heck yeah, if I'm using my Texan veranacular. In that case, I can use "cootchie" and have a ball. You gotta admit, a peckar and his cootchie fit together like a hand and glove. Ha.
But how many times can you use the word cock? Mr. Wilcox, you say you laugh at the use of the word steel, but I when I think about a cock being as hard and slick as steel, it's a turn on to me.
Vagina is my favorite word for vagina, but again how many times can I use it without wearing the reader out (well ... I guess I kinda wanna do that, don't I?). "Sex" is used in much of classical and some contemporary erotica. Pussy is hard for me but I occasionally use it (both literally and figuratively).
I liked "glistening cleft" the first time I used it, but as Gary mentioned, it makes me laugh now. Even though a nice slick cleft does glisten, darn it.
Using the right words when describing our bodies has been the hardest thing for me. One author advised "don't worry about the terminology, just tell the story". She sounded so convincing -- maybe saying cock & vagina over and over again is ok -- I've just been trained to think repetition isn't good. Maybe in this case is kewl -- even good.
What I do have fun with though, when I really let myself go, is describing the sex act itself. I can make myself horny as hell going wild with that.
Erotica can be so much fun.
~tyme~

[Laila]

Absolutely interesting topic, I must say.
Especially to someone as me who is not native to either british or americal colloquial expressions - highly interesting from studying point of view ;)

For me I gotta say words do have a great impact on my perception of a story, even if much much more when I refer to my own writing, since every tiny mistake seems huge in these.
But it's not wordsin general, rather their use. Like previously pointed out every word can be used if uttered by somewhen to whom it fits.

My problem is the third person writing since I don't like slang in these, but every expression for the genitals are slang except for those which sound just... you know overly formal (like Penis or Vagina)

I kinda like the word cock, it makes this nice sounds inside your mouth *loL* don't mind me, not a native. Just like cocksucker it has two of them ;)
Whatever, Cunt is ok too, so is errection and hard-on.
Absolutely hate and turn of words for me are meat (yuck!), tool (my dad's a carpenter and really - tools are different!), pussy (It's something I just can't use, don't mind it too much when others do).

To the rear *lol* what is btw a nice word. I like all the words here actually. Arse, ass and bum, it just depends. It would sound utterly, utterly horrible to say "To fuck her bum" sorry but that is just...
Arse is very nice but really only british ppl can utter it, from all the others it's nothing but horribly phony.
And about ass - I just found out half a year ago that it means donkey also - so I have more the rear-association :)


Now to the worst turn-off I can think off: Gushing.
Really I have no idea but if there is any girl who actually does it - could you send me a mail? *lol* I just don't believe that!
And apart from that I find the idea totally appaling.

Same goes for Mary-Sues and Gary-Stues (utterly, utterly perfect people), ennervating and especially witnesses of a slight lack of commitment to writing. Really take out a bit time to make them realistic and give them character.


Names are something most important to me. Even though mostly in stories I don't care much, but in my own it's a fight *lol*. Normally I spent hours researching names. I like the uncommon ones best, maybe because I have one myself, and I like changing the spelling from the original version.
Names I used lately: Oralie, Florentyna, Gwendolynne, Iris... etc.


lol that's about it.
Laila

[leo9]

Now to the worst turn-off I can think off: Gushing.
Really I have no idea but if there is any girl who actually does it - could you send me a mail? *lol* I just don't believe that!
And apart from that I find the idea totally appaling.
Laila

I didn't believe it till I saw it. There was a couple at a BDSM club, and the guy was enjoying showing off to anyone who cared to watch how his sub squirted when she came. And no, it wasn't pee, because it was perfectly clear and came in a quick rush, not a little jet.

My guess is that this happens if a woman's vagina opens up a lot at the top end when she gets aroused (I had a gf once whose vagina used to suck in so much air that it farted, which embarrassed her dreadfully), and also lubricates exceptionally. Then the fluid will collect in the top of the passage till she comes, and be squeezed out in a rush when she contracts.

I am not a doctor, nor do I play one on TV. But I can tell you that it does happen, and wasn't invented by porn writers.

[Laila]

I didn't believe it till I saw it. There was a couple at a BDSM club, and the guy was enjoying showing off to anyone who cared to watch how his sub squirted when she came. And no, it wasn't pee, because it was perfectly clear and came in a quick rush, not a little jet.


*grins* wow... ok so there is one ;)
Nah seriously, thank for the info, even though I still can't quite imagine that.
And in the end I am quite relieved I don't do that!

thanks

[tyme]

I'm sorry you find "gushing" so appalling. It would be nice to think it was just the word "gushing" you find so appalling, but it's obvious that's not what you mean.

You asked for an email from someone who's actually "gushed" -- well, here it is.

I don't and didn't call it "gushing" though. That's all I'll say since it's appalling to you.

But I'll be glad to answer any questions. I'm not ashamed of something I had no control over.

love,
tyme

[Laila]

I am really sorry if it cam across offensive - as that is certainly not how I meant it! Really.
Part of it is the word that I don't like but the greater problem is that I have a general insecurity about men getting down on me - about smell and taste etc. And that would just add to that.
That doesn't mean I find it appaling or disgusting in general - since that is my own special problem.
It's great if you have fun with it!

I'm really sorry if my words have offended anyone as that's really not what I wanted...

Laila

[tyme]

laila, i really was not offended in the least. gushing is not a very attractive word to me either for that sort of thing, and if you have some issues with oral sex, well that will only compound the way you feel about this subject.

you asked for an email of someone it really happened to, so i sent simply sent you one, no offense at all.

i can tell you this ... it hurt my pride that this particular man was able to bring me to that level of orgasm ... i didn't think it was possible either, but it is. i won't go into detail since it bothers some people, but i almost hated him for having so much control over me ... of course, he loved THAT.

Lol,
tyme

[belle morte]

and didn't think it was possible, but with my current boyfriend, I have found that it is. I never knew sex to be so messy, even though it is really fun, lol ;)

For those who are curious on the technicalities of why it happens though, http://www.fact-index.com/s/sk/skene_s_gland.html

[leo9]

i can tell you this ... it hurt my pride that this particular man was able to bring me to that level of orgasm ... i didn't think it was possible either, but it is. i won't go into detail since it bothers some people, but i almost hated him for having so much control over me ... of course, he loved THAT.


Ah... My favourite power game :-)

My ex-slave was a pain pig who would still be asking for more when I decided it was dangerous to beat her any harder; but the thing that was guaranteed to make her beg and fight and curse, and promise to go to the police as soons as she was untied, was to force her to keep coming. She hated having me take control of her body like that.

[Carmenica Diaz]

Gush? I'm green with envy. :D
Does it matter by the way what happens when two people exchange fluids? ;) It's the intimacy that counts, isn't it?
Best way to exchange fluids? - Kissing! Got my vote! :cool: :rolleyes:

[slavelucy]

It suddenly occured to me this morning how much i HATE the word panties...like, it makes me shudder with dislike and...um..embarrassment.

So strongly did i feel upon discovering this, that i thought i'd add it here.

sl

[leo9]

It suddenly occured to me this morning how much i HATE the word panties...like, it makes me shudder with dislike and...um..embarrassment.

So strongly did i feel upon discovering this, that i thought i'd add it here.


Well, that's a help to anyone who wants to run a humiliation scene on you :)

[Wontworry]

Well, that's a help to anyone who wants to run a humiliation scene on you :)
*HUGE evil grin*

[subterfuge]

I like cunt (hush ;) ), hole, pussy. Love cock ...

:)
Kallie

Kallie,
Whew, was I relieved when I read your response to this topic. I thought I was going to have to rewrite all five of my unsubmitted stories. Thanks for endorsing some of my favorites words in the English language: "pussy", "cunt" & "cock". Those three, plus "bitch", show up in most my stories.

I love "bitch" although when I use it, the word goes through an immediate translation in my mind as "hot bitch" or "sexy bitch". Funny how sensitive we can be of lanuage. Hugh Grant called a woman a "dirty bitch" in a movie (Bridgett Jones's Diary?) and I'm certain he meant sexy, but it was a total turn-off for me and my date.

My favorite quote of all time: Lieutenant Colonel Frank Slade (aka Al Pacino) in Scent of a Woman (highly recommended!). "There are only two syllables worth hearing.......pussy."

Now I'll have to admit that my last girlfriend tried to say "pussy" repeatedly, and could not say it without laughing. Oh well. I still love it.

One last thing - "panties" certainly does it for me. Little girls in America wear "underwear", sexy women wear panties.

Strat

[slave48]

Kallie,
Whew, was I relieved when I read your response to this topic. I thought I was going to have to rewrite all five of my unsubmitted stories. Thanks for endorsing some of my favorites words in the English language: "pussy", "cunt" & "cock". Those three, plus "bitch", show up in most my stories.

(...)

One last thing - "panties" certainly does it for me. Little girls in America wear "underwear", sexy women wear panties.

Strat

Sexiest women wear neither ;)

If I may add to the debate on cunt and pussy, I am comfortable with both.

Please spare me from 'love tunnel'.

I always thought 'snatch' was great for femdom fiction, with its overt references to 'vagina dentata' - "I'm going to sit on you in a moment, worm, and my snatch is going to eat your cock for breakfast!" Mmm, I'm feeling queasy already. :whip2:

Slave48