So, just a curiosity....
Why is it then that only the women post photos of themselves and the men, especially 'Dom's' don't? All that confidence, self-assurance and all, would have one believe it shouldn't be that big a deal, and yet....
hmmmmm
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So, just a curiosity....
Why is it then that only the women post photos of themselves and the men, especially 'Dom's' don't? All that confidence, self-assurance and all, would have one believe it shouldn't be that big a deal, and yet....
hmmmmm
you make a very interesting point... i was wondering that too... there are many female sub pics... i would like to see some male Dom pics!
I saw a picture of Oz's foot once, but I think that was because he forgot to move it back.
It is true, most Dominants don't show thier pics, unless you count Tom of Sweeden, now that was a picture.
Maybe they want us to use our imagination more, isn't that what Dominants want most of the time anyway?
...or maybe they're afraid of what you would think of them if you knew how they looked. lolQuote:
Originally posted by cadence:
Maybe they want us to use our imagination more, isn't that what Dominants want most of the time anyway?
but then doesn't that shatter the whole "I am Dom, hear me Roar" confidence we're supposed to believe in regardless? ;)
and ummmm, really - it's the subs with the confidence issues and yet here we are posting numerous photos anyway - makes a gurl really really contemplate that whole 'confidence' thing
*ahem* some of we Doms (us Doms? whatever) DO have our pictures on our profiles, just not as avatars. It is much more fun to require our subs to post pics than it is to post our own, as all women are beautifully different, and most male faces are just boring. Might be my genetic bias there, not sure.
I don't buy it at all, sorry lol (maybe a male face isn't boring to us just as you think all women are beautiful?)
If the 'all fearing confidence' that all subs are supposed to believe in is there, what's the issue?
And to Steelish, then doesn't that make them 'insecure'?
hmmmm, now you have made me think more about this. I know when I first saw a picture of my owner, I thought damn it, you do not look like the sadistic bastard I thought you would be. He looked way too sweet, he even has dimples!(thank god he's too busy too show up and see this)
Maybe it is the "I am Dom, hear me Roar confidence" , they have an image to uphold.
I have more on this, but I need to think about it first.
The nature of being a submissive is to be the one who is enjoyed by our Dominant; whether that enjoyment be gleaned from what we do, or say, or how we look and present ourselves. I would suspect most subs post thier pics to please the Doms they have currently or the ones they hope to attract. We aim to please by our natures. On the other hand, the Doms are there to enjoy us. Who are they really trying to impress?
Okay... Be warned. Sit down and prepare yourself.... and try not to swoon.
This is why we are so careful with our images.
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I guess you'll have to wait afterall, based on subsequent commentary about posting it in the self-portrait thread...
and...
though there was only a square inch of skin showing... the motorcycle was quite identifiable... :rolleyes:
you know ..when i joined the site ..i put up a picture i took and left it up as my avi till just very recently....what i hear the most when i started talking to Doms is do you have more pictures? or do you have a cam....and when i ask them back the answer is no...
Reign has shown me several pictures and i have taken pictures that he has requested..maybe it is that one on one thing that makes it more easier to share pictures.
i am not sure who i was talking to last week but they had told me they didnt want their pictures travelling all over the internet and i can understand that completely.
HHHMMM
OK……..hard copy…….a very bad subject with me!
I think that the “have no pics” people….have learned something valuable……They know that pics can come back and bite you on the ass. They have better self esteem; there is no need to parade like a peacock. They value a future other then the now. They are for the most part…..not stupid or careless with pics of themselves.
Once your image is out.......its wildlife on the web......forever!
I think asking/requiring a sub to post explicit and non explicit pics on the web, is down right shameful and wrong. These Doms are not looking out for the safety or future of their subs. They are looking to stroke their vanity at the price of someone else. Yes it may be amusing now…..but how will that sub feel about those pics a few years down the line.
Many who post pics are very young and looking for attention, and sad to say this is a way to get it….but at what price?
There are many here who like to post pics of themselves. For themselves and by themselves… if that is what they want to do….. great. I just think its…..not the greatest idea going.
Ok….and then there is the idea that good deal of the men try and float……..lmao ……Im still waiting to see the pic of a man who has a cock like Godzilla’s tail!........lmao
thrall, as always, has a point here. I mailed several times with Slut Linda and her mistress because of my worries (and still do..). However they had a point too, taking care to prevent to easy recognition by hiding the face (well that is the intention..but one can slip on that one too..yaiks!) making the risks almost theoretical...and yes..risk does add to the excitement, no denying that.
There are other sites, like the adultism one where Slut Linda is exposed as well. And I am astonished about the load of pics and vids on which people show themselves, completely.. I know, it IS exciting, and we think it is a tolerant society...but what if your coworker finds you there and decides to mail those pics to the rest of the company???? And those blackmail stories, they are exciting (well, to me anyway..yummy!) but for real???
So...if you wanna post pics..at least prevent a too easy recognition.. A pic like your crotch with his/her name on it, or some other body part with clamps etc. is exciting/humiliating enough by itself, showing you have done as ordered. It doesn't need your face or tattoo in it...
Also agree that a Dom should take care on that aspect as well, and even if the sub wants to expose completely, the Dom should strongly advise against it, certainly not encourage it. [/B]
As one who posted my pictures and is definitely not young, I can say Thrall is right. I did it because I am dying for attention. If a co-worker sees it, so what! Then they have to admit they were looking.
As for the guys - even hunky Tom didn't show below the waist.
Speaking from some... experience... in cyber-imagery and ninja skills (ty Widget)...
I will just re-iterate what a few have already said: THINK BEFORE YOU POST!!!!! This site, like ALL others, is on the INTERNET. Yes folks, that means a quick check to Google and viola, there you are (by the way, if you have an "unusual" scene name, you might want to periodically Google yourself anyway, just to see what's out there)--right out there for the world to see.
People that you don't want to know, people who have vendettas against you, or just totally creepy people, can see your picture. If you have kids, do you want them "accidently stumbling" across your naked pictures? What about your parents? Your co-workers? If you don't care, then by all means, post away! But folks, it isn't just the nude pictures that are "problematic."
For all of you posting up your face--people now can link your face with your scene nick & whamo, there they go, off to the races. And if you say "Well, then they have to admit they were on the site too," not necessarily! The way the net works, you definitely do NOT have to be logged into this site to see pics, nor other sites to see other pics.
Blacking out/smudging a face isn't going to cut it--there are enough identifiable characteristics of someone in most pictures to figure out who they are. Your entire head is still there--your facial structure, your hair color...
...and look at the background of the photo--is there anything there that could give it away? If someone knew you already, would there be enough in the pic for them to tell it's you?
Another issue is posting a pic w/other people in it: if you don't have their consent, why are you posting it? Assumingly, these are people you know (I am talking about self-portraits here) so why on EARTH would you post them onto this site w/o consent?
If you have children and/or are married... come on, don't be naive. Your hubby/wife either knows you're here & doesn't care, or once they find out they will be livid. And they WILL find out--they always do (I have about 20 test cases to tell you about on that one)... do you want them to be able to log in & match your pic to a nick? Would you want your 15-17yr old son to be able to see your face on here?
Avatars are great. They are fantastic. It's fun to see breasts, asses, etc. But beyond that... think realllllly hard about posting ANYTHING on any site, including this one. The self-portrait area contains an amazing amount of pics that could be ID'd. Or, people post non-identifiable pics there, but then put their face into their profile, or have pics in their photo album. Trust me, people will find the pics & will out you--people are like that.
Now, if you don't care, or you are completely out to your family, friends, and occupation, then hey, I say go for it. Maybe you are a porn star, or have your own naughty little website... then hey, post away.
Best advice? Better safe then sorry!! Keep your pics to you & yours, and put up an avi on the site that represents you. Or, if you want to put yourself up, put up a nice red arse, or a nice set of breasts, or, if you are male, a gorgeous cock.
Better safe then sorry, better overly cautious then regretful...
woohoo!....thank you Delia!
Good reminder Delia for those of us who get a little too care free.
To be honest I was only referring to the bits and peices of Dominants. I'd prefer to see some bums. I like looking at a man's ass.
Oh and someone please get to Oz's attachment, I want to see!!!
But I wholly agree with what Delia has said. If you are comfortable enough to show your face that is your perogative. Sometimes people don't realize that even though they feel a sense of security within a place on the web, that security is not guaranteed.
I post a lot of pictures at the academy, and even then I have had some trolls tell me they have downloaded them onto thier computer, so after that they could be posted anywhere. Hence the fact I will never show my face or show anything that may give me away. Even though I try to be careful, I am probably not careful enough, but that is the risk I take and I am fully aware of what could happen.
Even if you play on cam the other person can take pictures of you without you even knowing it. So there is also that to be careful of.
I have been threatened once, by a Dominant, who said he would track down my email address and find me. And yes it can be done. I took the threat seriously enough when he tracked me down here. And that was all because I wouldn't meet him to play.
So yes there are some people who are not respectful of others and there are ways to find a person.
It's not only pictures, if you give out too much information about where you live and what type of job you do, you may inadvertently give out too much information in that regard. There are only a very few people I trust who know my real name and where I live. I trust them not to give out my information, and I respect thier's as well.
I definately do not use the same email or messenger with my close friends and family, that I use for BDSM sites. I keep those two separate.
Hard copy!........a very bad thing.
Now lets think.....There is a thread that is very popular here for the pics that it contains.......and where do you think they all come from??..Riped, downloaded, borrowed, shared, copied. Do you really think all of the people in the pics......know that they are here for everyone to enjoy???
In the blink of an eye........a keystroke, your image is no longer your own.
chuckles... if Oz moves his pic to the self-portraits area, it will be automatically approved. smiles... pics (I believe) are only allowed in these threads if they have to do w/thread content, which, though arguably Oz in his black leathers does, it isn't technically the right area for it... Probably why it hasn't been approved *smiles*
lol, I have been here long enough, I should realistically know the rules, but I got all excited. I'll contain it now, and hope the picture gets moved, because now that's unecessary teasing.
We should get this post back on track though.
I am still curious as to why Dominants don't show any pictures at all, is it because they don't feel that need to.
Are Dominants just not exhibitionists as submissives are more inclined to be?
HHHmmm....
Could it be that they are..........smart, cautious, and know the risks????
Could it be that the saying "Do as i say and don't do as i do" is a rule they live by??..
Could it be that they have respect for themselves??
Could it be that they are not who they claim to be??
I think thrall & delia do have their points as said before. I won't repeat them because the point is made, and I also did a thread on it.
Did a google btw, and Rowen has over 1,5 million hits..making it a bit hard to find this particular Rowen. The MTP however brings it down to only a 1000, one them being here! So, glad the MTP will be gone soon. Also will bring this thread under attention of my playmates
Then again..a certain risk seems uninevitable.. I mean, if people really want, they can track my IPadress, in Europe a copy of every mail is saved for over a year (because we are all potential criminals) Meaning if "they" really want..
Still, that is a small risk and indeed adds a bit to the exitement Also, most of the things I've written here, people may read it. (have asked on to be removed tho)
Yes, some of it will be embarrassing at times...but let's face it, when a roleplay goes wrong or people walk in on that (it did happen once to me and my GF!) that is embarrassing too. And your playpartner taking pics while you are blindfolded...it can happen.
BTW..seems to me doms simply can be more picky..I have the impression that there are way more submissives than doms - but I can be mistaken on that.
But..for the last time.. don't make it too easy..there are people out there who enjoy hurting you. It can happen even when you are cautious, but don't present them your head on a silver plate!
No I wouldn't think so. Some have thier submissives post pictures, so why would they put someone else they should care about at risk. I don't think they would be that beligerent.
The do as I say part I understand, but I highly doubt that they use the don't do as I do rule.
I am required to post pictures when asked, because I am told to do it. He doesn't post pictures. I am also required to at least know the risks I take when I do post a picture and ensure my safety, but that is up to me to know that, not for him to remind me of it. Just because I am required to do something, does not make it a free for all.
I would think that we all have respect for ourselves, so I am a bit confused by what you mean. And as to what Rowen said, regardless if it is humiliating, if you like it, how can you have zero respect for yourself?
I just read Thrall's previous answer, and now I understand what she means now.
But we also make choices as well, and as long as we are safe in doing so, I don't see the harm done. I am still respected and respect myself with whatever choices I make. I understand the implications that may happen with my pictures, I fully know what can happen to them. I have made my choice though, and I stick by it.
Well there is always going to be that group of people. Even submissives can do that. I don't expect a Dominant to start posting pictures to prove he is who he is.
I also won't share a picture or expect one, if I don't know them well enough.
Sorry cadence... I decided to remove it. Though willing to post it here in this context... as a confident dom, I have no need to display myself in the self-portrait thread. LOL
I can, he said teasingly, arrange a private showing for you... :blurp_ani
Probably true. I wouldn't have had any inclination to post that picture except in response to your comment.Quote:
We should get this post back on track though.
I am still curious as to why Dominants don't show any pictures at all, is it because they don't feel that need to.
Perhaps Dom men, as men, tend to be more visual, and sub women, as subs, tend to try to please us that way.Quote:
Are Dominants just not exhibitionists as submissives are more inclined to be?
Right... as to the point of this thread (sorry for the hijack, gem)...
Doms often don't post pictures of themselves, I believe for two main reasons: 1.) They tend to be more alert & concerned about privacy issues then subs. Is this because they are smarter? No. More intelligent? No. More saavy? No... it's just because... well... it is; 2.) Doms are not always what is in a woman's fantasy, and, like subs, many don't want to ruin the fantasy that their sub has in their mind, or the scene personality that they have created. Does this mean, by rule, Doms are ugly? *grins* NO. Buuuut... I think they tend to, more then subs, keep that kind of thing close-chest.
As for why subs do it... I think sometimes it's an attention getter. Also, subs tend to be into some variation of exhibitionism & voyeurism & humiliation more then Doms are, in the sense that showing the picture emotes these kinks for subs, whereas a Dominant needs the submissive to show the picture in order to emote the same kinks... Does that make sense?? Like everything else, Doms tend to "get their kick" in a different way then a submissive does.
Alll that being said... Does ANYONE know a group of guys that enjoys standing for or being in pics as much as girlfriends do? Uhhh usually not. Guys just aren't as much into the whole camera thing as women are. So there could be the gender divide as well.
Personally, I know why T & I don't put our pics on here: while we love the vast majority of all y'all, I don't particularly want some creepy stalker showing up at the grocery store professing their love to me or coming up behind T in a Grim Reaper/Darth Vader moment with a knife in their hand, cursing him & killing him off for something He did as a Site Admin...chuckles... Have people met us? Of course...so they know what we look like. But again, it's all about perspective & reality... and a little bit of personal choice.
Now... mastersgem... if you need a pic of someone here on this site... *grins*... there are ...ways... to get one.... *coughs groveling coughs*
Cadence, allow me to correct myself: I didn't mean that you, or other submissives (which I am as well, btw) don't respect yourselves when you post a pic. I fact, I have an immense admiration for the courage it takes to take those pictures and post them. Believe me that I envy and respect the courage of Slut Linda on that part.
It shows courage, it also shows devotion. BUT...that's how I look it at..many others will say different. Please don't forget that many people, even in the medical profession think about BDSM as a "sexuality disorder"
And if I offended you, please accept my apologies right here..
No need to apologize, I am not offended at all. I may have misconstrued your statement a tad.
But I can understand how others think BDSM is a sexuality disorder. Just because they are medical professionals, does not mean that their statements or thinking is absolutely valid. Some medical professionals do practice BDSM as well. I don't hold what they say too literally.
Please don't tease cadence, it's just wrong
but if you are willing to show, I am always ready and available ;)
LMAO!!! Indeed they do!! You have any idea how adequate that remark is...?!! really, LOL...However, the point, the sad point, is that even if that is so, even if the "damsel in distress" scene is cliché in movies, even if handcuffs are THE gift on a bachelorette party...and every male head turns for a leather clad girl on a bike..many "decent people" will call us freaks, even people who should know better..
But..don't wanna do a second hijack of poor gemmies thread..sorry
No MG that is not what i mean ...when i say "could it be that they have respect for...themselves"......
It is not saying that the ones in the pics have no respect for themselves
It simply means that they are more then happy to ask, request , and or applaud a sub for posting pics... that shall we say..are compromising.....but in the same breath.....would NEVER dream of putting themselves in the same position.....
So......again.....no pics of the Dom/me/men/Doms
So who are they leaving the burden.......and consequences too, for any fallout from the posting of said pics??
I also said........
Geez, people, please stop punishing delia etc. for pointing out the risks! They truly are valid! It might just be me, being married to an IT person, but _anything_ you put out on the internet can be found and seen by others!
If you are willing to take that risk, fine. But please donīt think that anybody else who does not thinks less of you.
Even if they did - why would that concern you? The disapproval of people you never met and, most likely, never will?
We are all different, everyone has his/her own kink, can we not just let it stand like that?
I myself have pictures of me not only here, but also on some tattoo-related pages. I take care not to post body pics that show my face. On the other hand, anyone on those pages or here can see my face and (parts of my) body. I do not mind that, as I am outed pretty much everywhere. If anybody found me, he kept his mouth shut so far :-)
I would not like a full-body picture that also shows my face circulating worldwide on the web, though... then again, it would not kill me.
I donīt have a problem with people I actually interact with knowing approximately what I look like. I have travelled extensively during my tattoo convention times. My leg and my belly have been photographed more times than I could remember. So I am out there anyway - parts of me, that is. I do not mind that.
I would _not_ like them to see my pussy or nipples, though. So I donīt post these. Hubby would not want that, either, so itīs out of the question anyway.
As for humiliating/degrading pics: Hubby would not even ask me to take those of me. I have seen WAY too much shit happen with nude pics of female friends of mine - whose angry ex-boyfriends posted these (quite innocent pics, compared with some of the stuff that is up here!) all over the web.
It is up to each person to decide if they want to take that risk - but again, I do ask you not to damn others because they see the necessity to utter a fair warning about potential consequences!
I think the problem with the lack of Dom pictures here, is symptomatic of our society. When I prowl around to find erotic pictures or art, the majority is oriented toward men, be they gay or straight. There is a very limited amount out there geared toward woman. We have made very little progress since Burt Reynolds bared all (sheesh does that date me or what). I think men just aren't used to the idea of displaying themselves for a woman's pleasure. Whereas it gives many women pleasure to display themselves for a man's pleasure. Does that make sense?
I also find it very interesting that the only male who has contributed to this thread is Oz. Forgive me if I missed someone else. Come on guys let's hear what you have to say about this.
You see Delia....i would say form what you infer.....yes they are smarter. And for the reasons you stated. More alert. More concerned about privacy. .....And are these not issues that a good Dom should be concerned about FOR his sub??? Are these not smart reasons for not posting pics??
Again..smart reasons for NOT posting pics. Shouldn't everyone be concerned about these issues??
You say it a bit differently Delia... but is in essence the same thing....
all reasons why men/Doms.........do not post pics...