Humiliation (from Carrie)
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Originally Posted by carrie
Humiliation
Just wondering if others here are into humiliation stories. I'm not referring to Master sub themes as being a submissive indicates that is something they enjoy. I'm referring to stories where an "innocent" woman is humiliated in some way. For instance let's say that "good girl" finally relents to her boyfriends requests to sex ...
At the ripe old age of 19 she was still a virgin. Her boyfriend was getting impatient, almost angry after over a year of dating and still nothing! He takes her home one night and tells her he can't stay in a relationship where he can't show his "love" for her. Worried that she is losing him she finally gives in and he takes her to his bedroom which is well lit. She asks if he can turn the lights off, he says no very firmly. She hesitates, but seeing the look on his face finally gives in. He strips her naked, they make love for the first time. Very tame as it should be, but she's none the less embarrassed being naked for the first time in front of any guy.
Two days later he asks her to come to his place, when she arrives he tells her he has something to show her. She's excited, maybe he's going to propose? He leads her into the living room and motions for her to sit down. He stands behind her and clicks on the television set, and then the video he taped of their first night together. She's shocked, horrified!!! He secretly taped their special night together and there she is on film stark naked having sex for the first time!
Before she can say anything, do anything other than burst out crying in humiliation he breaks the news. "I have this tape posted onto a new website I'm about to open, you're going to be the star". He smiles, she doesn't understand ... "I've already got a couple hundred invitations ready to send out with just one click of the mouse." Mostly they are to my friends, your friends, your coworkers and your family, some are your clients, some just pervs who requested invitations ..." She lets out a loud scream "NNNNOOOOOOOO!!!!!!!!!" He tells her he's willing to shut the website down if she cooperates with him for the night. She's willing to do anything to avoid the humiliation.
He's takes it easy on her, making her masturbate in front of him, she gives her first blow job. She refuses to beg to have him butt fuck her until he says he will refuse. So on the hidden video it comes across as ""Please, please, I beg you to ff-uckk mmyy asss, Pleeasseeee!" Indeed he says "You're such a slut! There's no way I'm going to fuck your dirty ass!" She sobs from the humiliation but to the potential viewer of the video it looks as if she's crying because he refuses.
The next night he invites her over to see the hidden tape from the night before. Blackmail, humiliation, more blackmail more humiliation ... This could lead to her cooperating with some of his very sick perversions.
You're cup of tea? Or no?
Have her to start dressing more like she should have been doing (braless, cleavage shown, miniskirt)---you know, the type of outfit she's been disdanfully scornful of other women wearing. She has to sabotage the "good-girl" that she's been until now and replace her former reputation with that of "VERY easy". The penalty if she refuses is that the mouse-click sends the film to all her family and her friends.
Suspension of Disbeleif and Victim's Choices
May I?
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Originally Posted by Satan_Klaus
Is it only neccesary that the 'dark secret' she is hiding is vile enough to accept anything? That is very doubful.
Many authors like to put their victims through fates "worse than death", so to speak and ruin the suspension of disbelief that way. Thinking in the position of the victim, the reader realizes that the story loses it's touch with reality at that point.
I found that a 'reluctant' victim is much easier to put through such suffering; She is actually liking what is happening and thus rationalizes that she has no other choice because she is blackmailed instead of admitting her own hidden desires.
That takes the 'nonconsentual' feeling out of the story however, which is a huge turn off for some people (not me, I'm fine with 'reluctant' victims).
So how do you go about putting your unwilling victim through anything you want without her turning you in?
A cent for your thoughts.
Satan_Klaus
Here's my TWO cent. :D
I think that 'suspension of disbelief' and 'gradual moves' are mandatory for blackmail/humiliation stories. I would also add: illusion of choice.
We KNOW what will happen - if victim totally refuses her/his life might be ruined, but - where is bm/hum story then? So we believe the author that the used method is and will be working and want to know the what/how of the further stages. Of course SOME level of plausibility must be preserved (and some level of decent storytelling, elements like character build-up). Some stories go really far, beyond "fates worse than death" - like total zooslut/painslut even snuff (the victim, usually sub by now, is made to snuff someone s/he loved). This is of course preposterous but if the downward cline is smooth enough it won't seem more preposterous than opening premises.
"Illusion of choice": very necessary as the old Chinese masters knew. Simple choices (opening part only): "just submit to one more humiliation and you might walk away." Complex: S/he is often given multiple 'choices' among equally humiliating things (and we know s/he will have to submit to all). Then the victim squirms while the voyeurs watch in glee. (Voyeurs: the readers.) :rolleyes:
The victim isn't shaping the plot, s/he is swinging between closed coordinates - for our delight and gratification.
There is ALWAYS some level of consent in humiliation: she is manipulated to flash or walk naked through the mall: manipulated, yes but she must do it herself, no hidden gunmen. If she is dragged - that is not humiliation.
NC blc/hum stories are not real blc/hum stories. Not for me at least. They usually go the way of: what is the next nice thing we'll do to this slavething.
Wow this went much too long. Sorry Something about humiliation really fires me.
Thanks for listening.
Have fun. :)
Pejanon
Oh is there anybody who didn't read Cheerleder Picture?
humiliation: a (psychological) form of pain
I don't see why so many of you are associating --even equating--blackmail and humiliation. Certainly, they can be combined in many plots and scenaria, but they are not equivalent, and one does not necessarily involve the other.
Blackmail is a form of power. If you have compromising knowledge of somebody you can blackmail her. She obeys or faces painful consequences, which could be the payment of money, performance of a service (divulging her company's secret catsup recipe), something humiliating, or just a plain old fuck. If you put a gun to her head of kidnaped her mother, you would have power to make her do the same things!
Humiliation is the experience of doing something (or being seen as) shameful, immodest, or degrading. You can certainly blackmail a character into, oh, riding down Main Street naked on a white horse. Or make her do it because you have her kid hanging by his thumbs from a dungeon rafter, or there's a sniper's bullet aimed at her head....you get the idea.
For whatever reason, and by whatever form of power, force, or coercion, humiliation occurs when a character experiences something that is shameful or degrading.
The two are not equivalent, nor does one have to include, or lead to, the other.
I kind of dig characters who are forced to do something that violates their moral code, and is degrading by violating their sense of modesty. That's part of my thing for the abuse and rape of younger girls and virtuous young women in formal gowns: all that delicate material, so woefully inadequate to keep their prissy little privates covered. One scenario I'm kind of partial to is that of a teenage girl in a bouffant party dress forced to lift it up in front of her family and guests. Her panties are ripped off and she is made to walk around her birthday party and have everybody look at her, maybe kiss her cunt, or something. Then the assailant crudely gropes her, while everybody is (at gunpoint, perhaps?) powerless to protect her. Then she's given the choice to be forcibly raped in front of everybody, or to have the privilege of "privacy" in her bedroom if she'll submit willingly.
Humiliation, abuse, coercion, violation...but no blackmail.
