Butt plugs

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Originally Posted by wyldespirit

So my understanding after reading this thread....

it is totally safe to sleep with a butt plug in over night?

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Yes, with reservations.

1) The size of the plug is not too large for the bowel sleeve

2) No sharp edges. Likely professionally made.

3) Sanitized before insertion, with heavy lube

4) Fastened to something like a crotch strap, chastity belt, etc., so it may not be accidentally pulled further into the body. It MUST be. There are way too many visits to emergency rooms (and surgeries to remove them) if this is ignored.

As with most things, anything done to one you care about must be done safely, with preparation and sane forethought. Plenty of the appropriate lube, made from sturdy, solid materials, and starting small.

Good luck! Have fun!
Chksng19

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Originally Posted by chksng19

4) Fastened to something like a crotch strap, chastity belt, etc., so it may not be accidentally pulled further into the body. It MUST be. There are way too many visits to emergency rooms (and surgeries to remove them) if this is ignored.

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Most quality butt plugs are made with a firm, solidly attached/applied/molded base. About the only way to get a good plug to disappear into the body would be to push on it really hard with a foreign object. Say, something like a Mitsubishi.

Primarily, the concern should be in thr size and the physical response of the wearer. Butt plugs over long durations, and I can produce testimony from several people about this, can cause cramping. Basically, after awhile, the body's natural instaincts start to take over and the physical need to expel what is in the rectum begins to coutermand the conscious mental effort to keep the thing inside.

For all intents and purposes, wearing a plug overnight should be relatively safe. We have had several tasks posted in ST, accepted, and carried out without difficulty, that involve the wearing of butt plugs by submissives for periods of time varying from a couple of hours to three straight days (That was my task, thank you. ;) ).

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Originally Posted by BDSM_Tourguide

. Butt plugs over long durations, and I can produce testimony from several people about this, can cause cramping.

We have had several tasks posted in ST, accepted, and carried out without difficulty, that involve the wearing of butt plugs by submissives for periods of time varying from a couple of hours to three straight days (That was my task, thank you. ;) ).

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Yes, that was yours, wasn't it...hmmphh...well, I somehow doubt anyone is surprised by the thought that you might create a task like that. :p

And it can cause cramping, although in my experience, it seems less likely to be as severe or as constant if you give yourself an enema or two beforehand. Not eating much helps too. :)

I do question the "carried out without difficulty" comment, but believe it would be in my best interest not to protest much more than that. :-[

Thankfully, there was a nice base to my plug and no reason for any ER visits or surgery...I'm not that much of a pain slut! :eek:

I suppose, as with all of life, a bit of caution, knowledge, and common sense should keep anyone interested in playing w/ butt plugs relatively safe from harm.

eb *going to hide now before TG comes after me for being too much of a smart ass...lol*

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Originally Posted by e.b.

Yes, that was yours, wasn't it...hmmphh...well, I somehow doubt anyone is surprised by the thought that you might create a task like that. :p

And it can cause cramping, although in my experience, it seems less likely to be as severe or as constant if you give yourself an enema or two beforehand. Not eating much helps too. :)

I suppose, as with all of life, a bit of caution, knowledge, and common sense should keep anyone interested in playing w/ butt plugs relatively safe from harm.

eb *going to hide now before TG comes after me for being too much of a smart ass...lol*

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-snickers- I also had to agree that I wasn't surpirsed to hear that TG was indeed the one that came up with a task that'd keep it in for 3 days straight. Though I only gathered that from looking at some of the different tasks that are posted. I'd be hiding too hehehehe

I hadn't thought about cramping being an issue, then again I've made a very small progression to get used to the use of enemas too so that's been helping.

I know the one we have (the small one anyways) seems to have a good base on it. So I don't think it'd be a issue of it going inside and hiding...thankfully.

Thanks for the input you guys!! Much appreciated. And now I think I'll scoot out because thinking bout 3 days being without difficulty would just hmmmmmm time to hush now. :p

I have had Kats wear her buttplug overnight more than once. She does'nt like it but it has never hurt her. A good lube is a must, and a real butt plug is used. No vists the the hospital are needed. The lube that Pandora suggests earlier on in this post works very well.

Barton

Lube .. er .. while it may not be the 'correct' way of doing these things and I am NOT suggesting this should be done by anyone starting out down this road ...

lucy and I do not use any lube at all, not for a plug nor when I fuck her. Her submissive feelings dictate that she would rather accept whatever I give her without anything to ease her pain, although if she ever felt she might suffer serious injury then obviously her safeword would be used.

Having said that and read the previous posts, as the anus will take a lot of 'molesting', is the use of lube possibly more psychological than a physical necessity, or is lucy just the exception that proves the rule.

To have her wear her plug overnight will definitely be part of her tasks in the near future, although whether I will be able to resist taking it out, using her and then replacing it, is another matter.

I think that she may be the exception rather than the rule. Tearing, not comfort, is what worries me. :eek:

Barton

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Originally Posted by Barton

I think that she may be the exception rather than the rule.

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I would have to agree. While some people that are more used to that sort of thing (or is it just "more used" ;) ) might indeed have little difficulty, most would experience great deals of agony, and not in a good way, without some form of lubricant to facilitate the entry.

The anus doesn't get wet like the vagina, so trying to cram a cock or plug into it without some kind of preparation or facilitator could lead to disasterous and potentially harmful results.

Here's another question: Does anyone out there have hemmorrhoids? Does using a but plug not aggravate it/them? :dunno:

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Originally Posted by BDSM_Tourguide

most would experience great deals of agony, and not in a good way

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Um..i DO experience agony, believe me, just not injury, or certainly not any of a disturbing or serious nature.

i believe that the use of lube is largely a psychological necessity, the human body is up to a fair amount of rough and tumble. Admittedly i am more used (as opposed to 'more used', you clever fox, you) to anal play than some people, but i have never used lube, including the first time i ever had anal sex.

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Originally Posted by BDSM_Tourguide

The anus doesn't get wet like the vagina,.

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You may have inadvertently made a good point there. Now i think about it, i'm usually so turned on from WW's ministrations (evil and tender in turn) that my own lube seems to get everywhere! Between my cheeks (*blush*), down my thighs, on the bed....p'raps nature's giving me a helping hand. ;)

Either way, i'm happy to be the exception that proves the rule, it's a role i'm kinda used to anyway.

sl

I wouldn't attempt anal sex without lube, I have enough trouble using 'not enough' lube for that. Maybe you've evolved into a new type of 'super-submissive' lucy. Long live the new super female!

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Originally Posted by AndrewBlack

Maybe you've evolved into a new type of 'super-submissive' lucy. !

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Er...much as i would like that to be true, i've sulked for nearly a week because he won't let me wear my collar whenever i feel like...so, 'super-submissive'..maybe not eh? :rolleyes:

sl

my ex. loved to wear plugs! this one time she was in chicago and flying
back to ft. lauderdale. she check all luggage and purse so she was not
carring any thing on her. she wear a short mini skirt and half shirt
no underwear at all. and a med. size buttplug. for traval time it was
45 min. cab ride, 1.5 hr. to board, 45 min flight to ohio, 2 hr. layover
3 hr. flight to ft. lauderdale, 1.5 hr. drive to s.w. florida and then stop at a bar for 2.5 hrs. then drive home and slowly remove plug she felt empty
for the next day total time 12 hrs. plus

I find lub wise that I prefer anal ease because it has a numbing agent. I am not into pain in the least.
now this might just be me but I have found that there is some swellin in that area when I remove a plug after a long leingth wearing it, if thats not just me it might be something to concider.

Has anyone ever used a glass butt plug? We just bought one (and I'm terrified because it can be put in the freezer first - yipes!) but it doesn't have a very good base on it.It does have a base.... just not one I'm used to. I did ask the nice perverts if that would be a problem, but they said it wouldn't because the weight of it holds it down. Any input before I end up in emergency? :eek:

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Originally Posted by albear

Has anyone ever used a glass butt plug? We just bought one (and I'm terrified because it can be put in the freezer first - yipes!) but it doesn't have a very good base on it.It does have a base.... just not one I'm used to. I did ask the nice perverts if that would be a problem, but they said it wouldn't because the weight of it holds it down. Any input before I end up in emergency? :eek:

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Hey albear,

i think there's some stuff on glass plugs on the first page of this thread, not sure if it deals with the base issue (my only advice on that, having never used a glass one would be to v careful with it in terms of going completely inside you if the base looks a bit unsatisfactory :eek: ) but there is a bit on glass plugs all the same.

HTH

sl

As long as it has base - it will not slip in, but to be on the safe side - you can always tie a cord around the base - that you can test to see that it will not slip - it will be hanging like a tail, but there is something to pull on in case that base is not enough!

wow.. tons of good info, good to read :)

i myself have only used lube once in anal play... generally, as lucy mentioned, my own 'juices' are more than enough lol. a bit of spit perhaps, but thats always been more than enough? i guess im the exception too lol.


Teni

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Originally Posted by truckinnhorsin

i myself have only used lube once in anal play... generally, as lucy mentioned, my own 'juices' are more than enough lol. a bit of spit perhaps, but thats always been more than enough? i guess im the exception too lol.

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Yay!

We should start a club. Like AA but for anal without lube folks.

*stands up timidly, eyes flicking briefly around the circle, takes a deep breath*

i'm lucy and i'm a non lube using submissive....

:rolleyes:

sl

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Originally Posted by slavelucy

You may have inadvertently made a good point there. Now i think about it, i'm usually so turned on from WW's ministrations (evil and tender in turn) that my own lube seems to get everywhere! Between my cheeks (*blush*), down my thighs, on the bed....p'raps nature's giving me a helping hand. ;)

Either way, i'm happy to be the exception that proves the rule, it's a role i'm kinda used to anyway.

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Perhaps you're just a bit more into the full experience then some... not everybody really gets what you get out of anal, I suspect.

Also, not everyone was built to take it bareback for their Dom... I gotta salute you. You're the envy of a lot of Doms, I suspect.

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Originally Posted by GaryWilcox

... I gotta salute you. You're the envy of a lot of Doms, I suspect.

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* smiles proudly * ... you'd better believe it Gary .. she's absolutely the best.

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I am looking for a plug, and wondering what sites people have shopped at, and know are reliable, discrete, and good quality products. I haven't played anally for quite some time, and am looking for a medium size, possibly vibrating.

Thanks for the help.

So how do inflatables rate? i thought they may be a good tool for training (and allowing the use of larger plugs) but i think they may stay the same size around the neck a "fill" when inflated.

Has anyone played or have any recommendations? i thought they might make for a new and interesting sensation during playtime :D

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Originally Posted by restraint

So how do inflatables rate? i thought they may be a good tool for training (and allowing the use of larger plugs) but i think they may stay the same size around the neck a "fill" when inflated.

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IMNSHO, Inflatable are not only for training for larger, they are enjoyable due to the pression they can provide behind the anal ring. The muscles of the anal ring are usually strong enough to squeeze the "balloon", but doing so, it push the air more inside. It feels "fullier", without tiring the entrance apart.

No stress about removal after a long insertion either with a big inflatable: deflate and off it goes!

Traditional plug combines both motion in and stretching.
Inflatable split them, it's a bit different when it's already in and start slowly to expand.

My ladyfriends have never had any trouble with extended periods of plug wearing. Eight hour flights, nights asleep, marathons of enema-insert-wear-extract-buttfuck-insert-sleep-extract-shit-insert-wear-extract, over and over.

I take my hat off to Trish, my gf for several years, who came away with me on a three-day holiday and wore a really astonishingly large silicone plug from Friday morning through to Tuesday night. I inserted it, removed it only for her pooping needs (popping it straight back every time) and for buttfucking (after which I cleaned it and re-lubed it each time).

Trish managed the whole holiday on only one small tube of KY and never touched the plug herself! She was so dedicated.

All without any panties to help her hold it in!

I'm quite a fan of plugs, have used many of various makes and textures and of course sizes over the years. My favourite is a huge curved one designed for men (it hits the prostate) but feels wonderful for a woman, however I do need alot of lube with this, a good oil based one. With my smaller plugs I can insert them with either my own juices or a little spit, but it's taken a fair amount of training to get to that stage!

As for how long to wear them, I've also had mine in (the smaller and medium sized ones) for very extended periods of time, at one point a whole weekend, only removing it for nature calls.

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Originally Posted by Katmandu

Here's another question: Does anyone out there have hemmorrhoids? Does using a but plug not aggravate it/them?

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Just noticed this question and that nobody seems to have answered it.

A ladyfriend of mine a few years ago (Cheryl) loved to be plugged but had almost given up because of H. In the process of getting Cheryl to agree to let me fuck her up the shitter, after one drunken session that made her hole sting way too much for her the next day - too much to agree to a further session soon enough for me - I decided to provide some anal training with a couple of plugs and a medium-sized silicone dildo I bought for her.

I used a lube on these tools that contains a benzocaine topical anaesthetic, which "calmed" the pain a lot, and helped her get used to a "fulfilling feeling". For longer period spent plugged, she did need further coats of lube and re-insertions, but this usefully prepared her for the sensation of being (at first, slowly) fucked.

This helped her a great deal in learning to let my erection into her anus. It was a more difficult process for Cheryl than for most other ladyfriends, so she benefited a lot from this training. If your lady has similar H problems and you want her to learn how to open her less fortunate fuckhole to your cock, I'd recommend such a lubricant.

If you cannot find it in your area, try this method: mix KY jelly with antiseptic anaesthetic throat spray, sold in the UK as "Chloraseptic". It is green! It contains enough benzocaine to dull the pain of moderately painful H.

A note of caution: You may want to use a condom to prevent the benzocaine from dulling the sensation in your cock, otherwise it will take much longer to come (I found this out by making the mistake!). Otherwise you will be buttfucking your lady for so long that all the gain will become pain for her again.

If you or your lucky ladyfriend hate condoms, coat your erection with more than the usual amount of unaldulterated KY to delay the "mixing" and get you closer to filling her anus with your semen before it starts taking away the sensation. Or finish in her mouth if you feel the pleasure being dulled - her saliva will quickly wash off the mixture along with the usual substances.


Cheryl did not seem to develop any problems from my attentions, it did not make the H problem worse and she did not seem to enjoy being anally filled any less than other ladyfriends of mine. When we parted ways, we remained platonic friends, and she tells me that latter partners of hers greatly appreciated her willingness to let them use her anus. She is still using the larger plug and she tells me that it still helps, after several years.

Thank you for nice post salpecam, very nice, and … welcome to forums (I know I’m bit late after your 19 posts, but better late than never!
As for the Chloraseptic - how much of that in how much KY? And when working with anaesthetic - how often did you reapply?
I love the idea, but really hate the feeling! So… help much appreciated.

Today 4:03PM update:

OK, so this is how it goes :

Canada, Shoppers Drugmart

I: “I’m looking for topical a anaesthetic …”
The girl on the counter shrugs and looks at pharmacist for help.
He: “Can I help you”
I: “Hi, yes, I’m looking for topical anaesthetic, something to numb the skin …can I get that over the counter?”
He squinting at me with slightly alarmed look on his face:
“Ehhhh … nnnnnn … what do you need it for?”
Me hesitating, slightly caught of guard :
“For play.”
He squinting even more:
“For play? NO.”
I: “Do I need prescription?”
He: “No, you cant get it.” Walks away .

Well that went well … so you said KY and Chloraseptic? But that stuff has menthol in it - would I not be better off with Cherry flavoured one?

I mix about one part Chloraseptic to two parts KY in a camera film-canister. Then I use a little plastic syringe to spurt it onto her ring. When it is comfy, I use the lubricity to shove the syringe inside a little and squirt the rest inside. Nice and runny.
Pharmacists are happy to sell this product and never ask screening questions about your rectal health.

If you cannot get a topical anaesthetic by asking that question, as for 'roid ointment as that is often quite lubricative (to ease the chafing of buttocks on severe 'roids).

"Germoloids" is a popular product in the UK but I'm sure there are others.

This can be mixed with KY too, but it isn't as effective - but it is also not green!

I have found that re-applying topical anaesthetic is not usually necessary until the start of the next session. Sometimes she likes to apply pure anaesthetic after I finish inside her, to reduce post-fuck soreness. Once or twice I have had to pull out and apply some more if she is really having trouble taking it, but this is rare.

I have used germoloids a small number of times to reduce her initial pain on entry when introducing a younger lady to first-time anal sex. The less it hurts the first time, the more likely I am to get up her anus the next day (for some reason I find that younger ladies are less enthusiastic about my buttfucking them than more senior ladies are).

Thank you for your detailed answer, salpecam, I really appreciate it.

The anal training is real turn on for me, and while I do not suffer from ‘roids, I am quite sensitive there and find it difficult to “endure” the insertion. Usually after the initial pain, all is good - but, and I am really not cry baby and can take some serious pain, but this one in particular does not … sit well with me.
I did go to the Adult store afterwards and asked and received (ask and you shall receive) the anal-e-z lubricant, but damn - they make them small and expensive. It did help though lol … so, I will keep trying :p

Thanks again for info and … encouragement! ;)