Absolutely. I don't know if it is still occuring (I am not around here as much anymore) but it was definitely pretty rampant when the HOF was first introduced.Quote:
Originally Posted by Tufty
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Absolutely. I don't know if it is still occuring (I am not around here as much anymore) but it was definitely pretty rampant when the HOF was first introduced.Quote:
Originally Posted by Tufty
You have the knack of bringing out the best in me. Notice I said you.Quote:
Originally Posted by lily27
Ok, I think that I have a legit question here. Up until this thread I personally never noticed how many posts I or anyone else on this board had, because how many posts anyone has really doesn't mean anything to me. *shrugs*
My question is: what is the reasoning behind the post count in the first place? I belong to several other boards and they have post counts (in fact, at one of my other boards someone just today brought up the top ten posters on the board. Whippee?). But what is the point of post counts? I'm sure there has to be a reasoning behind it. As far as I know, the other boards I belong to don't offer awards to the people with the most posts.
I know this all sounds convuluted, but until delia started this thread I never realized that posting numbers were all that important and meant anything. I mean, I can understand a total post count of everyone altogether would be important, because then that would show the moderators how active the site was in general. And if they had post counts of each section on the board they could see which were the most popular and that would help them decide if they should get rid of certain sections or combine them with others, etc. But why the individual post counts of the forum members? Why are those posted? And it's not just this site I'm asking about; all the forums I am active on do this and I was just wondering why this was so. I'm sure there is a reason behind it.
MG....that is just the point...its "fun and games"...you dont HAVE to know anyone!..there is no "chat protocol" to follow...no ...may i talk to you ..or can i let myself into a conversation...not of that!!Quote:
Originally Posted by mastersgem
The point is to just answer the questions........anyway you want, however you want.....and have fun!!
Hope to see you in Fun and Games!!!!
LOL, Yes...I sat and looked at the posts on there for a week before I dared to reply - and much for thame reason. I do think that there is something for everybody here and some wonderful people to get to know.Quote:
Originally Posted by mastersgem
But, it's getting a little off the main topic of the thread abou the number of posts...
How about this then. If the point of the postcount is to gauge some kind of dedication to the forum. Why not skip post count and only count "thanks".
What better measurement of a members value than its helpfulness to others?
I guess a valid reason for showing post count, time you joined and that kind is to give a quick, rough idea of how active a certain member is, how much they are around. Some people here, like myself, Jeanne, Tom, Pertez or Warbaby (just a few) are around more or less any day, while others may take weeks and months between logging in. If you're new to the place, or to a certain forum here, and you see a post or some meber who interests you, then it's really annoying if you reply or send a pm and nothing at all happens for weeks because that member has in fact made only te posts and doesn't come around for months. This is a crude mesure, but it's still useful.Quote:
Originally Posted by sisterhoney61
I personally could care less if I have 8.000 or 30.000 posts, and actually it took me six months here to get to 1.000. When the posting rate started to pick up for real, the reason was not some wish to get to 10K but first off, that I made several new friends here who were so much fun to be with. Angel and myself - others too - share an interest in intricate word games, and when she began spending time at F&G and invented games like Alphabet Story it hit a raw nerve with me - anyone who thinks word games are bland and undemanding, or are not about bdsm practices, should take a look at that thread!
So Angel definitely helped lift the post count for me and others (and us lifting hers) but it was out of a sense of fun, not a wish to reach 10.000. I don't recall seeing it as a race to 10.000 even when I was three-fourths of the way - we do have offline lives too, and in any case, the post count was never that important a part of why I spent time here.
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Originally Posted by TomOfSweden
Because ultimately two friends can agree to post thanks for everything they do, every post, even for posting in some number game. It doesn't sopnd very useful. I can think of a few times when people seem to have been up for hours poasting against each other in some numbers game too, and okay that's got nothing to do with bdsm and lifts their post count, but I thin the long run that gets eased out, while a 2000 thanks roll is a bit harder to reach up to and may not really reflect the dedication behind. But let's not get into a fight about who is th best member here.
not sure if that would work Tom , what happens if some people dislike each other,?
not everyone does use the thankyou option if you look aound it tends to be the same people mostly who want to thank posts and if they've a dislike for someone then helpful post or not it's unlikely they'll thank them (sounds petty but thats human nature)
personally i dont see the need for them and the post count more often than not is simply another hack that everyone installs it doesnt have to be there or switched on, but its one of those things that because most sites have it its an automatic feature provided just like,avatars, online visibility,user titles,smilies etc
it can help to be used for gauging when there's private forums that need a certain amount of posts before you can join, although (with vbulletin anyway) it automatically shows in admin regardless of whether its active on the boards or not.
but when it comes right down to it all it is really is a few numbers under the avvy in the info box.
aahhh.....
But i think the question is...........should there be........awards for posting......
My understanding of the "forum god" flag was to recognize Warbaby because he had reached 10,000 posts. Not something anyone else on the forum had ever gotten close too, and as you all know.......not easy.
It was a "Thank you for participating"
Participating...........period. No stipulation on what or where he posted.
And thanks to active members who enjoy wit and words.......the games section proved to be fun and stimulating.....post count was beside the point.
HHHmmm let me think.....the game "This or That"....flogger or whip?..... OTK or over a table?.....knife play or wax play? chains or leather?...sounds BDSM to me....
Im sorry but the feel i get form questions like this ......in my opinion....is down right jealousy....it feels as if the "have not's" are angry/jealious because they post...but not often ...and feel that they are not recognized for their participation...
In my opinion.......it is very like whining........." but i dont have one!"...."why does he/she get to have one!"..........which is where the whole......"quantity vs. quality" issue comes into play....
I can't speak for everyone, but I know that my comments certainly don't come from jealousy but from a love of this site. My observation was that as soon as the hall of fame was started (awarding members with 1000 posts) the content of the entire site took a drastic downturn in favour of any thread that could be given a quick and easy reply.
I am all for anything that increases BDSM knowledge and experience based discussion. It is not about decreasing non-BDSM topics. But it seems to me (and I have shared this opinion to several people long long before this thread was started) that various awards drastically reduced the level of participation in the BDSM specific threads.
I would be interested to hear from anyone else who was around in the pre-awards days to see if they had any of the same observations.
Delia's initial post isnt about........content......it is about post count......and awards for said post count.....
Clearly the site has something for everyone......and i love this site.
As far as i see it there are only 16 members out of 32,627 who have gone past the 10,000 mark. The field narrows a bit when you think that the posting of "Real BDSM" comments has suffered.........because of 16 people......
Several of those 16 people dont post or visit the site often anymore......and as far as i can see.....its the same people who love the games who.......still play the games. So its not as if they made the 10,000 posts to get the award and stop. That would be post hunting. Nor do i see mass hysteria in the games to accumulate posts.....to garner a stupid award.
So........there must be some other reason for drop off of posting in BDSM threads. Mass exodus?? Brain drain???.....i remember those events happening. How active would the forum be if the top posters left?
So......back to the Delia's original question....do you recognize participation???
Members of the One Thousand Post Club
Founding Members (2006)
Aesop
Asia
BDSM_Tourguide
DungeonMaster6
frankee
hawk_fann
maddie
Mobius
MsUther
Ozme52
Rabbit1
Silke
slavelucy
StillBehindBlueEyes
Super Bitch
timberwolf
Tojo
Warbaby1943
September 2006
aussiegirl1
cariad
curious_1
delia
dzire2pleeze
Ruby
SheepishJaina
suchaminx
October 2006
cookiecat
lizeskimo
master 327-834-200
RickBulow74
riverwingsong
slave327-834-200
TheDeSade
waterbaby421
~hellish one~
November 2006
Uncle_Ed
Widget
Wolfscout
December 2006
gagged_Louise
just_annie
lilangel{HM}
moptop
Members of the One Thousand Post Club (2007)
January 2007
Inazuka
lily27
poetic_justice
violet girl
February 2007
**D** aka. Mr.J
IDCrewDawg
mkemse
pixie_dust
March 2007
Rhabbi
April 2007
caligirl{Rob}
ceegee{Benz}
MajesticFae
Mishka
willow
^firefly^
May 2007
angelic_zest
anonymouse
jeanne
nk_lion
thrall
June 2007
crazy_grrluk
MrEmann
MysteriousFun
Pertez
retsam6
Sadistic1
tessa
July 2007
Docha
Dorkalicious
PainSister
TomOfSweden
August 2007
Alex Bragi
Aquaduct
John56
Sir_Russell
September 2007
himind
October 2007
Dragon's muse
ElectricBadger
November 2007
Euryleia
Logic1
December 2007
cadence
Echoes
rce
Within September 2007 - December 2007
blythespirit
Voodoo_Child
Members of the One Thousand Post Club (2008)
January 2008
(None)
February 2008
blossom
March 2008
~minx~
Leigh
April 2008
mandy77
Sir_G
May 2008
I just looked this up.....not a bad list of members.........
Thank you all for participating!!!
....and is that when the HOF awards started, Thrall? 2006?
*asking as one who wasn't around here then*
thrall, you are trying to turn this into something personal, when it isn't. I have never said anything about anyone specific, never implied anything, and wasn't even THINKING it. I have never said (or implied, or thought) that quality and quantity are mutually exclusive concepts. I don't have anything against anyone in the hall of fame or who have received any kind of awards (heck, I am ON the list myself, if you noticed).
I don't know how I can possibly rephrase what I have been trying to say one more time, so I will just quote myself.
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I remember the days before the hall of fame, and I have to say that there seemed to be a pretty drastic and immediate fall off of long and insightful posting in favour of quick one word replies in the fun and games forum. It seemed like very few people could be bothered to spend 20 minutes writing out a reply when they could instead increase their post count by 50 during that time. It has gotten better as of late, but I actually wandered off for several months at one point just because there was very little activity relating to BDSM anymore.
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Before the Hall of Fame people would strive for their first 150 posts in order to get into the Cellar. But then the "bar" was raised to 1000 and the quantity vs. quality balance seriously shifted. People would come into the chat room desperately looking for someone to go play F&G with them so they could win their awards. I am personally aware of members who stayed up all night for the SOLE REASON of winning their award.
I don't know how to make it any more simple than the last line I put in bold. I am sharing my own personal experiences and observations. I am done trying to make the same point six different ways from Sunday, so I am done here unless I have something new to add to the conversation.Quote:
I am all for anything that increases BDSM knowledge and experience based discussion. It is not about decreasing non-BDSM topics.
Nope, sorry,... Im not taking this personally at all Lili...not at all...just trying to bring it back to topic.....Quote:
Originally Posted by delia
I also said..........lower the bar to recognize everyone for posting.....
*wink*....and yes i know you are on the list lily......as i said....not a bad showing of members....
Just something for people to chew on & think a little about...
In response to the posting of the entire hall of fame list here I could (notice COULD but didn't) post the entire 5 pages of new posts that appeared when I clicked the "New Post" link earlier and how it took until the bottom of page 4 to have something other then a fun & game or Intro post show up. But, I don't see how that would "contribute" to the overall value of this thread even though I was "participating." (Which btw, the two words are synonyms for each anyhow according to my Thesaurus.)
Bottomline, delia asked a question on opinion and nothing more. What I value isn't what the next person will value. Period.
2006..2007..to current dayQuote:
Originally Posted by butterflySlave4u
Actually (shocking truth!) I don't think anyone here is past 10.000 posts if we exclude the Games board. Not me*, not the current top poster, nor anyone else. But many of us still have thousands of posts all over the place, outside F&G, and the level of commitment this speaks of is much more important than any sheer number. One thing that's quite clear here: you can't build any high post count at the Games board if you don't actually make people post with you - because posting replies directly to your own stuff is just not tolerated. So one actually has to join the dance a bit.
Well, lily is quite right that we should be able to discuss what to do if we want this to develop to a more bdsm-y style - without being "only strong hardcore bdsm" because that's not what many of us want, I think - I hope the pervy poulation here can get to talk about that without people feeling stung in their egos or whatever.
*I have verified this for myself by some simple thread stats, but it's no big deal: there are thousands of posts outside of that board from me anyway - and nobody should deny that there's lots of creativity on the Games board too.
This thread needs to cool off a lot. The original question was not about who was better because of a post count or getting rid of fun and games. There is no reason for anyone to feel upset about where they choose to post or how high a post count they have or don't have. If it makes someone feel good to have a award for posts what harm does it do. If part of the discussion is how to get more BDSM topics posted and actively read or content that contributes to the theme of this site we can debate and suggest ideas here without it becoming personal. Please all take a breather if you are not able to step away and post objectively to this thread.
I dont care how many people gets awards here either, I come for a little chat and a smile,as for as the comments etc go, I feel the ones with 5.000 .10,000 plus have more times on there hands then i do ,Radi
Well... as a "founding" member of the 1000 post club... (that was a surprise to see!)
I remember back in the day when lily and delia spent some time in the F&G sections. It was a different time but it was fun.
I also remember a time when Radiance must've had a little more time on her hands because I saw her in the chat room often.
Things ebb and flow - our personal lives, this site...
I came here in 2006 looking for D/s information. I found it. But - as a few others have said - I found a lot more - mostly through the F&G threads.
2 years ago, I didn't have much to contribute as a "newbie." So I don't think I would've met the people I did - very important people in my D/s education! - if it hadn't been for the flirting & posting in the F&G threads.
I think Fun & Games has its place for those who wish to play.
And for those who wish to debate, discuss, question - this is also the place to be.
*group hug* :rolleyes:
While I don't contribute much to the fun and games or the welcomes, I actually see value in them. As some have mentioned, the fun and games acts as a kind of chat and get-to-know-you place. Many of the friends I have made from this site were those that had interacted with me in either of those threads and I'm extremely grateful.
Personally, I pay little attention to post counts. If you want to know the meat and bones of a person, just look up their posts and profile, or better yet, send them a PM!! There are several members I feel I "know" based only on what they've posted! All of the personal interaction and connections contribute to this site in whatever mode works best for the individual members, in my opinion. A person can glean plenty about someone by reading posts they've made in any thread. Tone is not hard to recognize either. All of which, for me, appears to be contributing to the site.
With so many negative connotations regarding BDSM, the lighter side of this forum helps to soften that image! (Again, only my opinions. Just my initial impressions upon joining the site a few months ago.)
Just my opinion but I believe thrall contributed very much to the site in April. It may not be just my opinion since I see she won 3 categories where competition was encouraged. Good for you thrall.
I think these two sentiments say it well, and say it all-inclusively.Quote:
Originally Posted by cookiecat
Much like life, people contribute in their own way, on their own time, and with whatever piece of soul they choose to share with us all. There is no real good or bad - just what we have chosen to reveal...
And isn't that really what it is all about, on this spinning mass of rock 'n water?