I wouldn't attempt anal sex without lube, I have enough trouble using 'not enough' lube for that. Maybe you've evolved into a new type of 'super-submissive' lucy. Long live the new super female!
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I wouldn't attempt anal sex without lube, I have enough trouble using 'not enough' lube for that. Maybe you've evolved into a new type of 'super-submissive' lucy. Long live the new super female!
Er...much as i would like that to be true, i've sulked for nearly a week because he won't let me wear my collar whenever i feel like...so, 'super-submissive'..maybe not eh? :rolleyes:Quote:
Originally Posted by AndrewBlack
sl
my ex. loved to wear plugs! this one time she was in chicago and flying
back to ft. lauderdale. she check all luggage and purse so she was not
carring any thing on her. she wear a short mini skirt and half shirt
no underwear at all. and a med. size buttplug. for traval time it was
45 min. cab ride, 1.5 hr. to board, 45 min flight to ohio, 2 hr. layover
3 hr. flight to ft. lauderdale, 1.5 hr. drive to s.w. florida and then stop at a bar for 2.5 hrs. then drive home and slowly remove plug she felt empty
for the next day total time 12 hrs. plus
I find lub wise that I prefer anal ease because it has a numbing agent. I am not into pain in the least.
now this might just be me but I have found that there is some swellin in that area when I remove a plug after a long leingth wearing it, if thats not just me it might be something to concider.
Has anyone ever used a glass butt plug? We just bought one (and I'm terrified because it can be put in the freezer first - yipes!) but it doesn't have a very good base on it.It does have a base.... just not one I'm used to. I did ask the nice perverts if that would be a problem, but they said it wouldn't because the weight of it holds it down. Any input before I end up in emergency? :eek:
Hey albear,Quote:
Originally Posted by albear
i think there's some stuff on glass plugs on the first page of this thread, not sure if it deals with the base issue (my only advice on that, having never used a glass one would be to v careful with it in terms of going completely inside you if the base looks a bit unsatisfactory :eek: ) but there is a bit on glass plugs all the same.
HTH
sl
As long as it has base - it will not slip in, but to be on the safe side - you can always tie a cord around the base - that you can test to see that it will not slip - it will be hanging like a tail, but there is something to pull on in case that base is not enough!
wow.. tons of good info, good to read :)
i myself have only used lube once in anal play... generally, as lucy mentioned, my own 'juices' are more than enough lol. a bit of spit perhaps, but thats always been more than enough? i guess im the exception too lol.
Teni
Yay!Quote:
Originally Posted by truckinnhorsin
We should start a club. Like AA but for anal without lube folks.
*stands up timidly, eyes flicking briefly around the circle, takes a deep breath*
i'm lucy and i'm a non lube using submissive....
:rolleyes:
sl
Perhaps you're just a bit more into the full experience then some... not everybody really gets what you get out of anal, I suspect.Quote:
Originally Posted by slavelucy
Also, not everyone was built to take it bareback for their Dom... I gotta salute you. You're the envy of a lot of Doms, I suspect.
* smiles proudly * ... you'd better believe it Gary .. she's absolutely the best.Quote:
Originally Posted by GaryWilcox
:goldcup:
I am looking for a plug, and wondering what sites people have shopped at, and know are reliable, discrete, and good quality products. I haven't played anally for quite some time, and am looking for a medium size, possibly vibrating.
Thanks for the help.
So how do inflatables rate? i thought they may be a good tool for training (and allowing the use of larger plugs) but i think they may stay the same size around the neck a "fill" when inflated.
Has anyone played or have any recommendations? i thought they might make for a new and interesting sensation during playtime :D
IMNSHO, Inflatable are not only for training for larger, they are enjoyable due to the pression they can provide behind the anal ring. The muscles of the anal ring are usually strong enough to squeeze the "balloon", but doing so, it push the air more inside. It feels "fullier", without tiring the entrance apart.Quote:
Originally Posted by restraint
No stress about removal after a long insertion either with a big inflatable: deflate and off it goes!
Traditional plug combines both motion in and stretching.
Inflatable split them, it's a bit different when it's already in and start slowly to expand.
My ladyfriends have never had any trouble with extended periods of plug wearing. Eight hour flights, nights asleep, marathons of enema-insert-wear-extract-buttfuck-insert-sleep-extract-shit-insert-wear-extract, over and over.
I take my hat off to Trish, my gf for several years, who came away with me on a three-day holiday and wore a really astonishingly large silicone plug from Friday morning through to Tuesday night. I inserted it, removed it only for her pooping needs (popping it straight back every time) and for buttfucking (after which I cleaned it and re-lubed it each time).
Trish managed the whole holiday on only one small tube of KY and never touched the plug herself! She was so dedicated.
All without any panties to help her hold it in!
I'm quite a fan of plugs, have used many of various makes and textures and of course sizes over the years. My favourite is a huge curved one designed for men (it hits the prostate) but feels wonderful for a woman, however I do need alot of lube with this, a good oil based one. With my smaller plugs I can insert them with either my own juices or a little spit, but it's taken a fair amount of training to get to that stage!
As for how long to wear them, I've also had mine in (the smaller and medium sized ones) for very extended periods of time, at one point a whole weekend, only removing it for nature calls.
Just noticed this question and that nobody seems to have answered it.Quote:
Originally Posted by Katmandu
A ladyfriend of mine a few years ago (Cheryl) loved to be plugged but had almost given up because of H. In the process of getting Cheryl to agree to let me fuck her up the shitter, after one drunken session that made her hole sting way too much for her the next day - too much to agree to a further session soon enough for me - I decided to provide some anal training with a couple of plugs and a medium-sized silicone dildo I bought for her.
I used a lube on these tools that contains a benzocaine topical anaesthetic, which "calmed" the pain a lot, and helped her get used to a "fulfilling feeling". For longer period spent plugged, she did need further coats of lube and re-insertions, but this usefully prepared her for the sensation of being (at first, slowly) fucked.
This helped her a great deal in learning to let my erection into her anus. It was a more difficult process for Cheryl than for most other ladyfriends, so she benefited a lot from this training. If your lady has similar H problems and you want her to learn how to open her less fortunate fuckhole to your cock, I'd recommend such a lubricant.
If you cannot find it in your area, try this method: mix KY jelly with antiseptic anaesthetic throat spray, sold in the UK as "Chloraseptic". It is green! It contains enough benzocaine to dull the pain of moderately painful H.
A note of caution: You may want to use a condom to prevent the benzocaine from dulling the sensation in your cock, otherwise it will take much longer to come (I found this out by making the mistake!). Otherwise you will be buttfucking your lady for so long that all the gain will become pain for her again.
If you or your lucky ladyfriend hate condoms, coat your erection with more than the usual amount of unaldulterated KY to delay the "mixing" and get you closer to filling her anus with your semen before it starts taking away the sensation. Or finish in her mouth if you feel the pleasure being dulled - her saliva will quickly wash off the mixture along with the usual substances.
Cheryl did not seem to develop any problems from my attentions, it did not make the H problem worse and she did not seem to enjoy being anally filled any less than other ladyfriends of mine. When we parted ways, we remained platonic friends, and she tells me that latter partners of hers greatly appreciated her willingness to let them use her anus. She is still using the larger plug and she tells me that it still helps, after several years.
Thank you for nice post salpecam, very nice, and … welcome to forums (I know I’m bit late after your 19 posts, but better late than never!
As for the Chloraseptic - how much of that in how much KY? And when working with anaesthetic - how often did you reapply?
I love the idea, but really hate the feeling! So… help much appreciated.
Today 4:03PM update:
OK, so this is how it goes :
Canada, Shoppers Drugmart
I: “I’m looking for topical a anaesthetic …”
The girl on the counter shrugs and looks at pharmacist for help.
He: “Can I help you”
I: “Hi, yes, I’m looking for topical anaesthetic, something to numb the skin …can I get that over the counter?”
He squinting at me with slightly alarmed look on his face:
“Ehhhh … nnnnnn … what do you need it for?”
Me hesitating, slightly caught of guard :
“For play.”
He squinting even more:
“For play? NO.”
I: “Do I need prescription?”
He: “No, you cant get it.” Walks away .
Well that went well … so you said KY and Chloraseptic? But that stuff has menthol in it - would I not be better off with Cherry flavoured one?
I mix about one part Chloraseptic to two parts KY in a camera film-canister. Then I use a little plastic syringe to spurt it onto her ring. When it is comfy, I use the lubricity to shove the syringe inside a little and squirt the rest inside. Nice and runny.
Pharmacists are happy to sell this product and never ask screening questions about your rectal health.
If you cannot get a topical anaesthetic by asking that question, as for 'roid ointment as that is often quite lubricative (to ease the chafing of buttocks on severe 'roids).
"Germoloids" is a popular product in the UK but I'm sure there are others.
This can be mixed with KY too, but it isn't as effective - but it is also not green!
I have found that re-applying topical anaesthetic is not usually necessary until the start of the next session. Sometimes she likes to apply pure anaesthetic after I finish inside her, to reduce post-fuck soreness. Once or twice I have had to pull out and apply some more if she is really having trouble taking it, but this is rare.
I have used germoloids a small number of times to reduce her initial pain on entry when introducing a younger lady to first-time anal sex. The less it hurts the first time, the more likely I am to get up her anus the next day (for some reason I find that younger ladies are less enthusiastic about my buttfucking them than more senior ladies are).
Thank you for your detailed answer, salpecam, I really appreciate it.
The anal training is real turn on for me, and while I do not suffer from ‘roids, I am quite sensitive there and find it difficult to “endure” the insertion. Usually after the initial pain, all is good - but, and I am really not cry baby and can take some serious pain, but this one in particular does not … sit well with me.
I did go to the Adult store afterwards and asked and received (ask and you shall receive) the anal-e-z lubricant, but damn - they make them small and expensive. It did help though lol … so, I will keep trying :p
Thanks again for info and … encouragement! ;)
Always glad to help!Quote:
Originally Posted by redEva
I wonder is you are aware of my favourite erotic discussion forum, the one originally created for discussions pertaining to Sodom Tales at asstr ?
Come along and try it. You might like it.
http://www.freeadultboards.com/index...rum=sodomtales
Thank you for invite, checked it out it is nice place, interesting posts and links too. Oh btw - if you manage to run into "dirtyslut" guy - do reassure him i am 39 (i do not hide my age or lie about it)! he seemed under impression that i am not :dunno: *wondering how old does he think i am lol*
thanks again for nice links! :D
Please forgive me butting ( no pun ) in but electroglide and such 'oils' are much better than either KY or vaseline , vaseline is rather sticky and KY can be absorbed and dry out , also plug type - glass are excellent for long term use as are to some degree metal - surgical steel - plastic/rubber plugs are ok for short term use ,upto maybe 2 days maximum . As a long time user of plugs ( i now wear one permenantly and have for almost a year now ) i have found the need for any lubrication redundant as my anal cavity and ring seem to be a perfect fit for my anal plug carefull removal and insertion is all that is required for those breaks for enamas and rare use of toilet and cleaning .Again please forgive me for interupting you A/all
Oh but dear clare_hastings2005, how perfectly delicious of you to have decided to butt in! Welcome dear, nice to have you on here, and thank you for your post! This is what we need, cause the fantasy is nice, but not always doable!Quote:
Originally Posted by clare_hastings2005
Yes I was looking for the glass as I figured that would be the smoothest thing and easiest for cleaning etc. I have found numerous beautiful metal ones, but(t) I am allergic to anything but gold and thus not eager to spit out $100 + for something that I will not be able to tolerate!
If I got you right - you are on the enemas now constantly? How does that work with your daily routine? Is this something you are doing as a part of the relationship? How do you feel about it?
Welcome again, and let me assure you that we are more than happy to have you, and your input here!
Now that is useful advice. I have never had a ladyfriend use a plug continuously for more than about 3 days. I have found that silicone ones with KY work OK; but I had not yet moved onto really long-term use.Quote:
Originally Posted by clare_hastings2005
This is the sort of hard-won experience that I was hoping to hear about. "Butt" in all you want!Quote:
Originally Posted by clare_hastings2005
What brought you to wear the plug all the time? Do you do it at the request/command of your partner? If not, please do tell your reasons.Quote:
Originally Posted by clare_hastings2005
Sadly some people can have reactions to metal and indeed the plastic/rubber plugs also ( much more common ) ,the advantage to metal plugs are the added weight inside the subs anus sometimes requiring constant effort on subs part to hold said plug inside . also while out in public is excellent method of punishment /control with no undies if she looses concentration on holding plug it can slip out and fall in a crowd - how mortifiing , i only needd this to happen once to learn always hold my plug - this exercise will also allow subs anal ring to have better muscle grip for added pleasure of male Masters.
The enama routine was part of a former relationship as was permenant plug use , however realtionship finished 11 months ago . Daily rountine has been worked so that first thing in morning before work i take a simple cleansing and flushing enama , weekends a more thourough cleaning - 2 or 3 proper cleaning enamas followed by clean water flushings till only clean water is expelled . Also on weekend not such simple douch nozzle is used for enamas but proper colon enama which delivers fluid deeper into me providing a more complete cleaning .It is simply something i was made to do after time ,well it i just part of me now Ms Red
Thanks for all the information! My two cents on lubes...
Slippery Stuff is awesome. It's water-based, but thicker and heavier than something like KY. Also, it has absolutely NO taste (probably not an issue with anal, as some have mentioned). Someone in a shop told me that unlike many sweet-tasting lubes, it contains no sugar, which is good because sugar can encourage yeast in the nether regions. Unlike an oil-based lube, it does eventually dry up, but I find that it gets a lot less sticky than KY or Astroglide.
As for soothing irritation (or a fun sensation)--I once had a little backside rash that I treated with Gold Bond cream. It was like ice on my butt! It soothed the itch and would, I imagine, help pain. I don't know how good it would feel inside the anus, but it would be worth a try. I also use Orabase (a topical analgesic) fairly frequently for canker sores, and I think that would be safe and effective on the butt.
Personally, I would caution against using numbing creams for getting someone used to anal play. I'm a small girl, and with normal lube and a safe, comfortable setting, I've never had any problems with anal--a normal butt should be able to accommodate a normal penis when it's relaxed. Admit it; everyone poops something that large at one time or another. I think using a numbing agent could actually do more harm than good, because if there is damage being done, the numbee won't notice it until it's too late.
For "normal", yes. But what to do when you are trying to train a lady with 'roids to take you into her anus? They hurt like hell, even when not being damaged. That's where topical anaesthetics win through.Quote:
Originally Posted by Blue_Monday
Good point--I've never had both ('roids and anal penetration) at the same time, but I can see there why a topical would be necessary.Quote:
Originally Posted by salpecam
I've had 'roids :o and still managed full anal penetration. You just need to be more careful and slow, take time with it, start with one finger and lots of lube and work up. The anus still stretches and accomodates it can just be a little more painful afterwards, however on a personal note I like that, it proves I have been used and keeps a welcome reminder. I do use a good cream afterwards to help a little witht the soreness.
Hey, I have a question for the folks who like to wear butt plugs long-term or out in public. How do you avoid chaffing? I would like to wear my plug to work and class, but the flared base just gets so damn uncomfortable between my cheeks. I've tried using powder, lube, and combinations therein. I just can't seem to get around having my cheeks chaffed by the flared base. Any tips from the pros?
Another question: does anyone have any reccomendations for a good vibrating inflatable plug? I've seen a few, but none of the sites tell how big it expands to, and there seems to be a pretty large price discrepancy. Any recs would be appreciated.
-Phantome, who is enjoying being a member of the forum!
Those who are playing anally with hemmoroids, please use caution. The tissue is already irritated, and more easily damage or subject to small tears. This exposes the open blood stream to fecal matter, and what is called a systemic infection. Not a good thing, and e-coli infections can be resistant to most antibiotics.
For those with the problem, there is a simple help, that can greatly reduce the size and irritation. After normal post BM cleaning, put some hand lotion on some tissue, and reclean the rectal area. You'll be surprised at what you left behind. Also the lotion conditions the area, just like it does for chapped hands. The additional cleaning decreases the chaffing, that helps irritate the hemmoroids. Yes even the internal ones, though using something like a yeast infection cream injector filled with hand lotion, and inserted can additionally help those too. Just let it overflow before insertion for lubrication.
As far as lube, there are vaginal lube suppositories, and non or lightly medicated Hemmoroid supp (like cocoa butter ones) that can be inserted to lubricate the inner area more thoughly. They just take a little forethought, so they can dissolve. 15-30 minutes at least.
As to cleaning toys, don't overlook the dishwater, if you have one. The repeated hot water, and heat of drying help to 'sterilize' the toys. Latex won't melt in the top shelf, and neither should rubber, in think. Glass, and metal ones obviously should be ok too. If they can 'sterilize' the food bacteria that grows between my once a week cycles, they can do a pretty good job on toys. ie green beans are known for a nasty bacteria when they are cooked poorly, or allowed to sit too long, and I'm still here.
As to inflatables, the same applies, stretching the tissue, can let blood leak out between the cells, and therefore, let bacteria in. Go slowly, over many sessions, to let the tissue build up it's forces so to speak. Remember, any blood form the rectum is a serious concern. It means that there is a two way street.
Hope this helps some of you.
Hello ... I am fasinated by the thought of the use of these plugs on my sub..
I have never used one on her .. i am interested to know how
to introduce a sub to these devices and which type / size you would recommend
also // interested in knowing how to develop this to a full day session ..
thank you in advance ..
Buy a set of graded sizes from tiny to fairly big, but don't buy one that is more than two inches diameter at first. Lube the "head" of the smallest one well using KY jelly or similar water-based lube; if you buy a silicone plug, don't use silicone lube. Rubber/latex plugs are OK with silicone lube. Put the plug in her anus gently, but make sure it is right in up to the base flange or it will pop out as she moves about. At first, keep it in her until she doesn't want it in anymore, or until you need to remove it for a toilet visit or to fuck her anus.Quote:
Originally Posted by jim
Try to extend the inserted duration a little bit every time you use the plug. Once she's happy with this regime, go up a size. More getting used to it, extending the wearing period... then up a size again, etc.
In my experience, the breakthrough will be when she can sleep a full night with it in. From there it is a short step to keeping it in for days, removing it (only temporarily) to fuck her anus or clean it while she uses the toilet, you apply an enema, etc.
You will have to develop your own plan for how frequently you re-apply the lube. Some wearers find that a minimum of lube is good for keeping it in while walking, etc, during the daytime, to stop it from slipping out too easily. Others find that lots of lube is necessary for long-term wear to avoid chafing. This is where experimentation with lubes will help, as the ones that are good for easy insertion or anal sex are not necessarily best for long-term wearing. Acrylic, Pyrex or metal plugs, while utterly rigid, allow freedom to use any lube you want, including oil-based ones if she prefers.
i have the need to find a plug that is a common household instrument so that it will not be seen by the vanilla world as a plug. does anyone have any suggestions? thanks
ct
The only advice I have is don't. A proper plug requires a collar so as to not be unforunately lost and absolutely no rough edges. I can't think of an everyday object that would reliably fulfill both qualifications. I suggest investing in a discrete locking box for the actual thing rather than searching for a poor substitute.Quote:
Originally Posted by charlestudor
If it's in the intended anus often enough, it won't get left lying around... Safest place to keep it is where it was designed to go.
Quote:
Originally Posted by salpecam
I like the way you think!
This is not a common household instrument, but it does not look like an ordinary butt plug either; more like a toy than like a sextoy. Maybe it would interest you?Quote:
Originally Posted by charlestudor
Fun Factory makes a blue silicone butt plug shaped like a dolphin: Dolphin Stub ‘S’.
In the US you can get it here for example:
http://www.eroticrites.com/catalog/p...oducts_id/1653