You did miss someone else...me being still male the last time I checked. And I did sent a pic...it's hidden...but also visible..
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:eek: My apologies Rowan. I don't know why I assumed "Rowan" was female :o. You have contributed quite a lot to this discussion too. Shame on me. :pray: I deserve to be severely punished for such an oversight. :span:
Now I will have to go in search of your picture. :camera2: ;)
Hmmm do like the apology, really do. Never seen so many avatars in one post either. Thinking about the topic...would two hours in the public pillory:bondage: and 20 lashes;whip do?
Well if you are offering to let the bit of Dom in you out, all I can say is, yes please, Sir. :pd
That's self respect? Sorry but I just don't understand how you can call that self respect and especially in the context in which you posted it earlier. Nevermind, it matters not - just odd :confused:
And claire, I find it equally interesting that more of the Male Dom's haven't responded *rubs chin* more to ponder on the mysteries of Masters ;)
LOL. Truely amusing .
Why bother when we can sit back and be entertained by all the pretty slaves.
Is it not the lioness that does all the "work" in the wild, while the Lion watches over his dominion?
Though I commented earlier on this topic and still stand by what I say, it occured to me that I missed one tiny tidbit: women are curvy, soft, and rather easy on the eyes. Men? Kinda goofy lookin' nekkid. Just sayin'. ;)
LOL...
I am a female, and a domme. You will not find my photo here... nor any photos under this user ID... I have family that don't need to see me EVER in this light. Not that I am embarassed by it, but that they could be.
I do ask for pictures via email from my pets though... as a face reveals a lot about a person. I would hope that pictures via email are safe enough.
I HAVE recently discovered, that male subs tend to like the fantasy they create themselves. Discovering that their domme is a real person with real life thoughts, opinions, and frailties are not something the subs I have met, want to know about.
So I continue to learn. Day by day.
I am grateful for you all.
And you my little gem... your pictures knock my socks off. But you know that. ;) I certainly do appreciate those of you who have the courage to post your own pictures.
Take Care & Be Well.
thankfully lots! *giggles with you*
whatever the reasons- whether you're an exhibitionist, or someone dared you, or you're looking for a little encouragement, or you're teaching something, or you're just plain proud... I do sincerely thank you all from the bottom of my... *ahem*
Refering to the question at large, we do lack in the man flesh...
there is always the trick of not including your face gentlemen, so don't be shy!
it's really only fair- I mean, if y'all get to see the goods before doing delicious things... we should get to see the goods that might be doing said deliciosity's!
I have never posted a picture that included any naked part of me with a face, and never would because I'd fear it spreading around...however, on a non-public group I am a part of, I have put up pictures of my face (no nekkidness included with the face)
If someone I know sees me online... then we have a new exciting conversation topic. But the reality is I'm still a wimp and wouldn't want to be spotted by someone I know prancing butt naked through a bdsm forum. Mostly because they may never tell me they saw...
lol, this may be a wierd observation, but were yu all aware that the site has a photo contest thread, and picks winners etc (thuse promoting user pictures) each month
as for what kind of photos win, idk how they are chosen or anything but if you look at submitted pictures you may see why i find some of the disscussion here a little bit ironic
not to mention the fact that a rare handfull of doms compared to a plethora of subs has posted on this thread in the doms area ,,weg subbie take over lol
And ......irony of irony.....LMAO. I enter submissions......and have won.
The photo submissions do not necessarily have to be you or even body parts. They just have to conform to the theme that is given.....
That being said.....there is nothing that could track back to me.....
And all i have to say for that is.........lol.......parts is parts!
I don't know if this is talking about men specifically when you say Doms or just Dominants... but... I don't have any pics on here as a Domme... and really that is because I don't have a digital camera/scanner! haha. I'm a bit of an exhibitionist, so I wouldn't mind posting pics (with identifying marks um... hidden, of course). I just don't have the equipment. haha :)
yes any pics of me are supposed to have any identifing marks absent as well, everything from my special clit ring and its bell, to my brand/tatto site as well as most face pics, are to have been altered obscured or simply not identifiably visible as part of the whole
It's because we care. Doms are so pretty that if all you subs would see our gorgeous bodies, you'd instantly explode from sexual ecstasy.
The serious answer is that I do think that subs are most often more courageous that doms. It's just as simple as that. "Coming out" as a sub is much less culturally acceptable than coming out as a dom. There's a difference between dom and sadist. In places like this where they inexperienced meet the experienced, I think picture posting statistics will always lean toward subs.
I also think that cowardly vanilla guys often clothe themselves in the persona of a dom to get laid. It's like they're hoping that the domly hat will daze and confuse naive and unsuspecting subs. I'm convinced that sites like this is prime hunting ground for them. They will never post pics because it prevents changing nicks in time of need.
...and then there's the domlyness. Doms, (according to my experience) aren't needy about getting other peoples appreciation for stuff like looks. Its like we prefer to turn to ourselves about aesthetic matters. This defeats some of the motivation for posting pictures of ourselves. We're needy about other kinds of appreciation. Like grovelling. This isn't always a good thing. The people I've met with the most flabbergastingly bad taste have all been extremely dominant people. Often with weird theories about what looks good that have never been challenged... At least not in a way they noticed, because they don't really care what other people think.
...and how could I manage to get such a great taste in spite of my domly handicap? It's just one of those mysteries. I'm blessed with amazingly good taste anyway. Who did I ask..? Well, myself of course. Who else? I don't need to ask if my ass looks good in my pants... I know it does.
Yeah the dom cone of silence has been lifted, lol , thanks Sirs
Yeah the dom cone of silence has been lifted, lol , thanks Sirs
I had to ponder long about this before responding and I have to say that this post (a recently deleted one lol) REEKS of self-centeredness (and not in a good Domly type way, I might add). I can understand that some D/s relationships are one-sided to the Dom and yet another side to the sub but I would not continue a dialogue with a man who refused to show me his picture (privately) immediately.
I've had many 'so-called' self titled Dom's demand my photo and in turn say I'll get theirs if and when They Deem it so (rolls over laughing) - yea, ok - some new, out of the gate innocent sub may fall for that Bs (and get hurt terribly), but I call them straight out on it.
Physical attraction is important in ANY relationship (D/s included). Any who says it matters not is either lying or kidding themselves really. That's not to say they all have to be Gods or Goddess, but they have to be at least physically pleasing to the other person (whatever that definition is for that person) or it's just not going to work.
It continually makes me roll my eyes when I read such things from aging, pot-bellyed, ill-mannered, untaken care of men (or right doms haha!), demanding that they will only talk with beautiful, in shape, height/weight proportionate females - kills me laughing everytime!
So your statement....
".....but by then my appearance will be of no importance..."
Really? Won't it? I'd rethink that if I were you ;)
I just want to say that I'm neither lying or kidding myself. I truly do wish to know someone from the inside out. Physicalities get in the way. "It is only with the heart that one can see rightly. What is essential is invisible to the eye."
No matter how beautiful a person is, the attraction is short lived if they are ugly inside. And no matter how unattractive one might be, a good, caring heart, lets their beauty shine through.
Nevertheless, admiring a nice hunk doesn't bother me in the least. hehehe.
Its not T and A But mine is real...
lol blythe, of course it doesn't ;) doesn't bother me none either but I have found the more beautiful the person is outside, the more ugly they are inside ;) (a very general statement, yes, but is what I, in my own experience, have found) but I still say everyone has a 'physical attraction' type ;)
Mine is big, burly, hygenic, bald is good mmmmm along with many other intangible qualities, as I said though, they need not be a God or Godess (in fact if they are, they wouldn't like me anyway as I am not one hehe) but....; I still need them to be in my category of 'attractive' ;)
Ok, so I'm the only vain person on the entire board - no news there; I'm the only one who is the same as everyone else too hehe
Nope....lol...all sub.
But i have another idea of why the men don't post pics.....
Places like this are usually female heavy.....And lets face it...a very good deal of them are desperate for attention.....any attention. And im not just talking about the females who post pics....
So again...advantage to the males.....
There is no need..no reason for the men to post pics.
Well I will say something here, and I don't care if it is just another reinforcment of double standards.
Men generally don't like looking at pictures of men. I am more likely to have pictures of my girl posted than myself.
Also, if I saw a bunch of pictures of a guy in his profile and or album (showing off his body etc), I might be so inclined to think he is one self centered sob at first glance.
Conversely if he has no pictures I would tend to think he eaither isn't on the market for a sub, is hideing a beer gut or worse, is just plain lazy, or not serious about finding a potential mate and just here for the cyber sex.
Though in all honesty, if I was on the market and trying to attract a girl, I would post some pictures. Not because it's "fair" or anything; but, mainly because it is some topping for the cake.
Look at nature, it is allmost allways the male of the species that does all the showing off to attract a mate, even amongst us primates.
By your response to gem, bradley, it is apparent that she was close to hitting the nail on the head about you. That was not only extremely unkind, but immature and less than Domly.
And gemmy, I know you're both beautiful inside and out. I too am/was attracted to a certain "type." Must be 6' or over and 250 pounds - even larger, if healthy. If I had stuck to that rule of attraction, I would have eliminated the most special Dom I've ever encountered. That's what I mean about physicalities getting in the way.
When you connect on the inside first, they are your type. Of course if they sound like Pee Wee Herman and only bathe annually and... omg, I'm so shallow. hehehe
I agree. I don't care about bald heads or even beer bellies, but a picture reveals something of a person's character. It is the body language that is telling. When I asked for my Master's picture, he jokingly asked why I wanted to see his ugly mug. He was rather harsh on himself, but most would agree that he is not a particularly handsome man. Yet, there is kindness in the smile upon his face, and humor twinkling in his eyes. There are no ingrained lines of anger or disapproval on his face. Nor does his chin jut out with false bravado. He is not wearing any masks. He looks like what he is - genuinely him. When I received his photo my reaction was that he looked authentic, and I told him so, because I value authenticity very highly.
Now I enjoy a well hung man, tight buns, broad shoulders, and narrow hips, as much as the next voyeur. Yes they are titillating. But that is only eye candy, which is good for the moment, but soon vanishes only to leave me hungry for something with more substance. But that doesn't mean I don't enjoy the titillation while it lasts.
I'm not so sure about that. What we're attracted is not only defined by cultural pressures... ie selecting for qualities that are hard to attain for the sake of exclusivity. Like being attracted to rock hard abs or skinny girls in in trendy clothing.
There's a second type of primeval pure instinct attraction which probably is stronger but much harder to understand in ourselves. It's the pure animal part in us. That's what I think you mean that you're preferring. I also think that we don't like to have this type of attraction because we cannot control it effectively. We fear what it'll compel us to do. These two different types of systems are in conflict.
This is cutting edge science at the moment so its hard to say anything definite. But there are things they've been able to show. Like testosterone/oestrogen levels are important. Men with disproportionately high levels of testosterone will be attracted to women with disproportionally high levels of oestrogen. Basically, big hairy men with deep voices and bulging muscles will be the soul mates of women with big hips, smooth skin and big tits. While the small breasted slim women will fall for smaller guys with smoother skin. Obviously its more complex than my simplified model. Hormones define a large part of our behaviour and personality which probably is even more important than the looks. Big tits is correlated to "girly" behaviour.
I think what is happening is that a man with the genetic make-up you're attracted to...well... you'll think he's interesting and clever because you think he's hot. But because he's doesn't display stuff I mentioned first, you think that its somehow less superficial.
I'm not saying we can't have deep fulfilling love that is intellectually stimulating and all that. But I don't think the stuff we're attracted to is in any way deep. He's just pushing the right buttons. I'm sure you know the feeling of chatting to a guy and find yourself very attracted to him, and then you meet him... and you find yourself completely unattracted to him. It wasn't his fault. You were reading physical properties from his texts and chats that weren't there.
I don't think I'm devaluing love in any way BTW. I think it's wonderful and beautiful still. Self-consciousness is a great feature that sets us apart from other animals. But it just makes us conscious of what is there. We're not any less animals or any less ruled by animal sexual instinct.
Everybody might as well post pictures of themselves, since none of us has any clue what others might be attracted to. We can guess... but we'll probably be wrong. Girls have never fallen for that which I've always been most proud of. I work out and is in great shape. Even so number one most popular part is my eyes and eye-brows.... I mean WTF! I can't do anything about them!?!? What's the fun in that?