NObama - The Big Spender
NObama - The Supporter of BIG GOVERNMENT
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NObama - The Big Spender
NObama - The Supporter of BIG GOVERNMENT
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Nobama and our next President
Looks like a pretty good plan to me.Quote:
Originally Posted by hopperboo
However, i don't get to vote so i won't comment further. What i really hope tho is that whoever will be your next president he's capable of bringing you guys and gals closer together again. From over here in Europe it sure looks as if you could use a president that unifies and doesn't alienate Americans further from each other.
We don't need a Socialist as our president. (IMHO)Quote:
Originally Posted by lucy
But I do agree with you. It would be nice to have a president that could bring the people together. I think a lot of it has to do with the people though...extremists on both sides will not be in favor of sharing something "together." People tend to look first for the differences, and hold onto those issues, instead of the things that would bring them together.
I am not a supporter of big government OR Obama's taxing plan, his plan for Iraq, his stance (the actual voting history, not what he says) on late term abortion, etc. I could very easily deal with a democratic president if there were major points I agreed with. Obama is not that case however.
If Obama wins and all inidcation w/3 weeks to go are he will do so, let's all give him a chance to prive himaelf
I f you are looking for a New Car, don't NOT buy it because you have a neighbor who does not likes his, YOU try drivinf irt and see f you like it
After 8 years of Bush, we ayt least need to give him chance to prove himself, we don't like he, we vote again in 4 years
I do not want a "Bush Clone" for another 4 years
McCain is not Bush, and he has shown it with his solid plans and his ability to speak without someone holding his hand. He has shown it with his ability to cross party lines and not be a total dunce in general. I don't want a Bush clone either. I have been keeping up since this campaign started and I wasn't a big fan of McCain until a little later on. Funny thing is, I almost trust McCain. With Obama...I wouldn't trust him as far as I could throw him. He is an eloquent speaker, but it plays to whichever type crowd he thinks will bring him the most votes.Quote:
Originally Posted by mkemse
I don't want Obama to prove himself. If half of what he supports comes to pass we will have a lot less of our freedoms in disguise of having freedom. (Doesn't make sense does it?) Big government is not our friend.
***"Sentor Obama, I am not President Bush. You wanted to run against President Bush, you should have run four years ago." - McCain
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Originally Posted by lucy
Purely on past records, McCain would be the president who could attempt brings the parties together. He has worked throughout his career for the general good, stepping across the party lines many times. I live in Arizona, his home state, and many times, he has mystified us because he appeared to support a socialist cause. In talking to him and I have does so a few times, he really tries to do what is best for the country.
Obama, well, he is the typical party hack, who says what each crowd wants to hear. It really mystifies me as to why the media does not go down the road of exposing his past and his varying stances on issues depending on what crowd he is speaking to. If the media would have done half the investigations into his past and his true stances that they did trying to find dirt on Sarah Palin, Hillary Clinton probably would be running against mcCain now.
If Obama is elected and he starts to put his program in, the divisions in this country will get worse than they are now. There will eventually be no middle ground.
If Mccain wins we have 4 more years of Bush Polucy as MCcAin has supported 95% of all Bush PoliciesQuote:
Originally Posted by DesertDom
They can go back on Barack's life, but why bring up what happens in the 60's when he was 8 years old
We need the Candidates to use the last 3 weeks we have to STOP attacking each other to any degree and discuss the issues and their solutions, I personaly do not care who Obamam hung around with when he was 8 years old, he does not associate withthose people now, except on 1 board of directs he is on which has 5 Repulicans on it already anyway
Lets discuss the Housing Issue, Let's Discuss how us taxpayers get our $750 Billoin Dollars back after the Bail Out, Or how they plan to stock AIG for asking for money every other week then taking a $400 weekened outing
These issue concenr me far more the what Obamam did in the 60's
What impresses me, is after Barack got his College DEgree, he turned down countless "Wall Strreet" Job offer with Golden Parachutes, but chose instead to return to Chicago and work in the Inter City, haven't hear MccAin do anything like that
As far as an American Heroe, yes no question McCain is an American Heroe, but so is Bruce Jenner and Nicheal Phelps, but all in different ways
And I do not mean to discredit McCain for his Heroe for survinig being a POW, or his service to his country, but thses qualitfictions alone do not qualify you to be a President
The REality is, if you are drowing 50 yards out from the shore, and see a person standing there with a rope and life presever, you want to know if they can throw the preserver to you and not if they are a Repbulican, Democrat, White, Black, Asian ect
The REality is, when Clinton left office we HAD a $450 Billion Dollar SURRPLUS and Gas was only $1.75 a gallon,
When Bush leaves, we will have a Defecit of almost $1 TRilloin Dollars and be paying $2.50-$3.00 for a Gallong of gas,
I bring this up only because McCain supports most of the current Policies the we have now and needless to say, i can honeslty say NO I AM NOT BETTER NOW THEN I WAS 4 or even 8 YEARS GO, Mccain will simply be 4 more years of Failed Bush Policies
Really hard to discuss on a cogent basis politics when tired political talking points are the only thing being used. To say that McCain is 4 more years of Bush is absurd. McCain has been known for years as going his own way, he thought about leaving the RP because of his beliefs not being mainstream Republican and he is not well thought of here in Arizona amongst conservatives because of his tendency to reach across the aisle and support non conservative issues. I am not a big fan of McCain for his tendency to compromise conservative principles, but out of the 2 choices, he is the better choice for me.Quote:
Originally Posted by mkemse
I wold tend to agree with you there about McCain not serving as a community organizer hobnobbing with the likes of Rezko (sp?), McCain was busy serving in the military defending the right to free speech in his younger days.Quote:
Originally Posted by mkemse
If you look beyond the political talking points again, you will find that most of the Clinton 'surplus' was achieved by removing money from the SS Genral Fund and was nothing more than an accounting manuever.Quote:
Originally Posted by mkemse
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Originally Posted by DesertDom
ok i will give you that, but so have milloins of other in the service Mccain is/was not the only servinbg our coutry to defend our right nor was he the only POW we ever had, THIS IS IN NO WAY TO DISCREDIT HIM for what he did and went through
Bush only served in the Texas National Guard
I have no issue exceot that Mccain as President to me, is 4 more years of Bush Policies, he has recently tried to distance himself from BUsh, BIG MISTAKE he should have done that MONTHS AGO and not waited til he was a far behind in the Polls ect as he is now, distancing him now to me was nothingf more then a Politcal move based on his past support of Bush, andwithout sounded sexist which iam sure is how this will come out
I think he made a HUGE Mistake is selecting Palin,It was said he did this to attrack Clinton Followers, I seriously doubt alot of her followers would support him, since Palin and Clinton Politicaly are as differnet as summner and winter, but this is just my opnion
and i real apprciate your remarks and comments on thisthread
thank you
even if that WAS thecase, we never the less have almost a Trilloin Dollar deficit right now, the largst in UnistedStates Histiry and oil has gone from $35 a Barrel with cliton to as high as $145 with Bush now back down to about $70 no commodity in US Histry has ever gone up that much in 8 years, if so kindly tell me which one, i have heard omtheradio from Commodities Brokers who said over the last 8 years no commodity has ever gone up 150% in 8 years much less oilQuote:
Originally Posted by DesertDom
Mccain may have "gone his own way" but he suupported the Iraq invasion, he supported the Tx Rebates, almost every Bill that Bush has signed he has agreed with
Actualy Ron Paul would have been a great choice
Let's have Ron Paul as a Democrat and let the Republicans have Joe Liberman, who to me anyway is a Party Traitor but that is only my opnion
thanks again for all your replies and feeback
I for one will be THRILLED after November 4 is over, just to have it over, enough is enough already
I actually believe the democratic party betrayed Lieberman. Just as it did Kilpatrick so many years ago.
That's not going to happen. Obama is so far-left that I simply can't support him -- and I voted for Bill Clinton twice. (I also think Clinton should have been charged with perjury, but that's a different issue.)Quote:
Originally Posted by lucy
The Left in this country will simply not be satisfied with a centrist, which McCain actually is (by American standards). His history of bipartisan legislation (McCain-Feingold, -Leiberman, -Kennedy, etc.) is irrelevant to a large, vocal horde.
"Let's give him a chance" only works if there's doubts about his policies. I know I don't want socialized medicine in this country and that's his plan. I know, because it's been historically proven, that increasing capital gains taxes will harm the economy and cost jobs. I know that increasing the minimum wage results in job losses and is primarily a tactic to increase union wages.Quote:
Originally Posted by mkemse
I don't need to give the man a chance to know I don't want him doing these things.
No Lieberman betrayd the Dems. not sure how you seem the Dems betyraying him??Quote:
Originally Posted by denuseri
He was the Dem who lost his election, He WAS THE DEM who Decided to Run as an Independnt, he was The Dem who indorsed MCCain and spoke at The Repbulcan Convention,, i seem NO Democratic Beytrayl here, i see lots of Lieberman betryal here however, please clarify that
thanks
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Originally Posted by Ragoczy
Mccain will be 4 more years of unsucceful Bush policy Obama at least brings a clean slte in, the country seems to be behind Obamam and I believe thier anger towards Bush is the reason MCcain will loose, not necessarily because MCcAn supports most of Bush's Policy, but I believe America is just tried of Republican Ruler (or lack there of) over the last 8 years, McCain's loss if he does loose is more of Bush's fault the his own and rhe RNC sais ysetrday that if he did NOT score a huge win in the last Debate, that they will strat to funnel there money to stater and local election where REubplcans are trying to hold onto seats in both houses
Seems to me The RNC is abandoning thier own choice for President, and they formal took all ad moey out of Michigan today as well as cancelling all future ads there, McCain said he wants to keep runing ads there to try and catch up, the RNC said NO
The treatment of Leiberman by the Democrat Party was despicable in my opinion.Quote:
Originally Posted by mkemse
He disagreed with the party-line on a single issue and had the moral courage to stick with his convictions, so they go after him politically. Is there actually no room for disagreement with the party-line? Is it really all-or-nothing?
I've never heard of the Republican Party doing something like that. In fact, my own Representative is a Republican and voted against the surge -- he didn't think it was a good idea. There were no political repercussions -- the Party didn't withdraw their support and throw it behind a challenger for his seat.
You know, believe it or not, I self-identified for years with the Democrat Party -- and it's crap like their treatment of Leiberman and Zel Miller that drove me away.
It is funny how the former VP pick for the party of Al Gore has been literally blacklisted for standing up for whats right.
The Dems and especially the media often have hung him out to dry becuase he refused to allow Ned Lamont (a party yes man) to walk in and take his seat?! Or becuase he is Jewish and subsecuntly supports Isreal?
Sounds to me its the ussuall liberal propaganda at work yet again, if you disagree with even a small position on the party dogma and dont allways do as your told, watch out we will brand you a traitor or kick you to the curb unless your Ted Kennedy then your excused becuase your drunken royalty?!
"I'm a loyal Democrat, but I have loyalties that are greater than those to my party, and that's my loyalty to my state and my country."
Joe Lieberman
I have allways liked Lieberman becuase he doesnt follow party lines so much as he follows whats right.
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Originally Posted by denuseri
No kidding, Lieberman did an incredibly courageous thing in backing someone who he felt was the right choice irregardless of party lines. He knew what it would cost him and did so anyway. He deserves a lot of respect for having the courage to follow through on his convictions.
And it is incredibly telling for those who bother who to pay attention how the Democratic party treated him.
That scenario only holds water if you start at him losing the primary. Look at the reason he lost the primary: he didn't follow the party-line on one issue and the party threw all its support behind a challenger for his seat. What follows isn't him "betraying", it's him standing on principle and not rolling over.Quote:
Originally Posted by mkemse
Again I ask: Is there no room in the Democrat Party for personal conviction? Is it all party-line?
Yes there, is but there do not seem to be ANYONE currently in the Adm of Repbublicans who have ANY convictions at all,do not misunderstand, I am NOT saying Repbulicans have no convictions, only those Associated with the current PresidentQuote:
Originally Posted by Ragoczy
There are in general as many Bad Democratic as Republicans, this i am sure is something we can all agree on??
Could I have voted for McCain if the Economy was bette, yes but he is in my opion still to closly alligned to Bush, he may be trying to distance himself from Bush in genenral,, but it is too late to do that now with just 3 weeks to go
Yes McCain stands up for his beliefs,yes he served with honor in the Srvice, Yes he was a POW NO that in and of itself to me does not Qualify anyone bethey a Democrat or Republican to Run and Become President, not to mention I am not at all comfortable with Sara Paling,
If God Forbid anything happened to the President be it Obama or MccAin, YES I feel far more comfortable with Biden taking over then I do with Pain, Governor for less then 2 years abd a Mayor of a town of 6,000 who only has 45% turn out for her election, so even in a town of 6.000 she still could not manage to get 50% of the vote
Funny how Biden changed his tune about Obama; especially when he said he would be proud to stand as McCain's VP and didn't think Obama had what it took to lead the nation.
McCain is a good solid leader that has actually fought for his country.
Obama hasn't done anything other than pull the wool over his followers eyes. He is going to lead our nation to ruin if given half a chance.
Just becuase McCain is from the same party doesnt mean he is another Bush. But hey any analogy that works, even if it has no basis in fact, is fair game for most democrats right?
We shall just ignore the fact that for his entire career McCain has been on the opposite side from Bush's in the struggle to see who leads the Republican Party's ideology.
Sara Palin might be brand new, she may not have been my first pick (Lieberman was) but at least she is honest, especially compared to the alternative, besides she has real spirit. I believe she has more of what it takes by far than his majesty Barrak Hussien Obama.
The economey isnt going to be fixed by taxing the piss out of the small business owners. Joe the Plumber will be in the poor house in less than a year with Obama in charge.
The war with the nazi influenced terroists isn't going to end just becuase a democrat says so. They will only grow stronger if we pull out of the middle east and other areas that they are congregating in. It is going to take a leader with great resolve and wisdom to defeat them. Not some self serving naive pedagogue with "good intentions" on his lips and no balls in his pants who couldn't lead spit into battle.
Thanks for your feedback and may the Best Man win, the one the VOTERS want be it MCcain or Obama, 3 weeks from tonight we will all knowQuote:
Originally Posted by Kuskovian
I will just be glad all the Ad will be over
Actualy as I understand it thr RNC said No Way to LiebermanQuote:
Originally Posted by mkemse
Palin Lack in experiece to be VP, Joe Biden doesn't, and as far as lack of experience ot be President, that is what everyone said about JFK., not to mention he was Roman Cathlic, so beteen these to things Kennedy had "against him" he did win
Wonder what it would be like today if JFK, RFK and MLK were still around, makes for instrestingthought if nothing else
Ironic how Palin has more executive experience than Barry Obama and the democrats still want to bring up experience. LOL.
JFK bumbled and got inordinately lucky at best yet he was at least willing to put his life on the line for his people so I don't begrudge him that and I would pick him over Barry any day. Hubert Humphrey however would have made a far better President, too bad he wasn't rich enough to have a chance at beating John out of the primary.
My bet is things would be far worse if the three stooges of American royalty were still around. A good example is Teddy, drunk as a self intitled skunk.
Unfortunatly as Plato pointed so deftly out so long ago; in a democracy the best man very often doesnt win as opposed to the one that currys favor to the mob.
With Barry having so many advantages in the twisted politically correct world view of lies, it will be very hard for the best man {McCain} to win.
Our only hope is that enough people will come forward out of thier complacency to vote becuase they are fed up with the liberals bullshit and thier agenda of destroying everything good and true about America.
This is another liberal talking point that would be entertaining if it wasn't so sad.Quote:
Originally Posted by mkemse
A huge media focus on Palin's perceived lack of experience, so much that she can't be trusted to be VP. But, no one says a word about obamas only 3+ years of experience in the Senate. The last 18 months or so he has been running for office and not even tending to his job in the Senate.
And he is qualified to be Pres based on that? Quite the double standard.
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Let not him who is houseless pull down the house of another, but let him work diligently and build one for himself, thus by example assuring that his own shall be safe from violence when built. -- Abraham Lincoln
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The democracy will cease to exist when you take away from those who are willing to work and give to those who would not. -- Thomas Jefferson
Which one doesn't belong?Quote:
"Your new tax plan is going to tax me more, isn't it?" the plumber asked, complaining that he was being taxed "more and more for fulfilling the American dream."
"It's not that I want to punish your success. I just want to make sure that everybody who is behind you, that they've got a chance for success too," Obama responded. "My attitude is that if the economy's good for folks from the bottom up, it's gonna be good for everybody ... I think when you spread the wealth around, it's good for everybody."
Oh, oh, oh!Quote:
Originally Posted by Ragoczy
*Hopping up and down raising hands.*
I know, I KNOW!
The third one!!!
Poor poor joe, he aint alone in this, i am paying my fair share too. Of course i shall be equally screwed in November if Obama wins.
Though i bet hezbolla and iran will be just peachy.
Accoring to me, both maccain and Obama are wrong and epreciating for america.
McCain promises to "take on" the drug companies, as if those who produce and market the medicines that improve and save human lives must be fought; he promises to ration energy by means of a cap-and-trade scheme, as if the government has a moral or constitutional right to dictate how much energy a company may purchase or use; he promises to "battle" big oil, as if those who produce and deliver the lifeblood of civilization need to be defeated; he promises to "reform" Wall Street, as if those who finance the businesses that produce the goods and services on which lives of americans depend are thereby degenerate; he seeks to uphold the ban on drilling in ANWR, as if the government has a moral or constitutional right to prevent Americans from reshaping nature to suit their needs; and so on.
Obama promises to socialize health care (under the tired euphemism of "universal health care"), as if insurance companies, doctors, and patients have no right to use or dispose of their property or to contract with one another according to their own judgment; he promises to increase the minimum wage, as if employers and employees lack those same rights; he promises to pour taxpayer money into "alternative energy," as if the government has a moral or constitutional right to confiscate money from productive citizens in order to subsidize tilting windmills; he promises to force oil companies to fund government handouts to Americans, as if the owners of oil companies have no right to their property or profits; he promises to bail out homeowners who cannot pay their mortgages, as if the government has a moral or constitutional right to make some people pay for the financial mistakes or hardships of others; he promises to "incentivize" students to do "community service" by offering them taxpayer-funded college tuition, as if the government has a moral or constitutional right to do so; and so on.
In regard to foreign policy, McCain promises to "respect the collective will of US democratic allies," as if America has no moral right to defend her citizens according to her own best judgment; and he promises to finish the "mission" of making Iraq "a functioning democracy" even if it takes "one hundred years," as if the U.S. government has a moral or constitutional right to sacrifice American soldiers to spread democracy abroad.
Obama promises to uphold the idea that "America's larger purpose in the world is to promote the spread of freedom. . . . dignity, and opportunity," as if Americans have a moral responsibility to minister to the uncivilized and the unfortunate across the globe; and he promises to negotiate with jihadists who chant "Death to America," as if Americans will be safe from these lunatics when the lunatics give Obama their word.
Both candidates hold that the purpose of government is to manage the economy, to regulate businesses, to redistribute wealth, to bring freedom or democracy to foreigners, and to defer to the will of others on matters of American security.
But this is not the proper purpose of government.
A government is an institution with a monopoly on the use of physical force in a given geographic area. The proper purpose of government is, as the Founding Fathers recognized, to protect each individual's right to live his life as he sees fit (the right to life); to act on his own judgment, free from coercion (the right to liberty); to keep, use, and dispose of the product of his efforts (the right to property); and to pursue the goals and values of his choice (the right to the pursuit of happiness). The way government achieves this vital purpose is by banning the use of physical force from social relationships and forbidding foreigners to physically harm citizens or their property. And, crucially, because government is an agent of force, it too must be prohibited from misusing force, which is why the founders wrote the U.S. Constitution, the purpose of which is to limit the power of government to the protection of individual rights. A proper government does everything necessary to protect individual rights and nothing that in any way violates individual rights.
Should a businessman be free to keep, use, and dispose of the wealth he produces—or should he be forced to hand some (or all) of it over to those who did not produce it? The answer one gives depends on whether one thinks a person is morally entitled to the product of his effort—or morally obligated to serve others.
Should doctors, patients, and insurance companies be free to contract voluntarily with one another—or should the government dictate the terms of their agreements? The answer one gives depends on whether one thinks individuals have a moral right to act on their own judgment for their own sake—or a moral "duty" to sacrifice for their neighbors or "the poor" or society.
Should a nation's leaders rationally, self-interestedly decide, given all the relevant facts, how best to defend their country's citizens from foreign aggression and then act accordingly—or should those leaders selflessly defer to the judgments of leaders of other nations? The answer one gives depends on whether one regards acting on independent judgment as morally correct—or deferring to a "collective will" as the right thing to do.
I use to love America, I use to think that it woul be great if I get a chance to be a citizen of America, my brother lives there and it was so easy for me to shift, but I gave up that idea, its not the america which I used to love.
This america which Maccain or Obama are promising, is no better than India, America is depreciating its values.
This crisis, Ohh comeon! I am not talking of economic crisis, (actually there's no economic crisis its just a hoax) The crisis I am talking about is the Moral Ethical crisis. Americans lost their ethical identity. I wish they retain it somehow.
I see america NOT as a country fastly moving towards freedom of Individual providing soveriegnity for each an every individual in himself, on the other hand, America is slowly becoming a collectivists state under the statist government. America is becoming socialist and communist, I fear America itself will turn out to be a new soviet union. what a disgrace!
Last One Turn Out the Lights: Marines Quietly Begin Leaving Bases in Iraqi Cities
Friday , October 17, 2008
By Jennifer Griffin
http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,439612,00.html
Interesting how good news out of Iraq is not reported by the 'unbiased' main stream media. This story, whether you like the war in Iraq or not, is substantive proof that George Bushs surge policy is working. The policy which John McCain supported wholeheartedly.
But if CCN and the 'unbiased' media outlets would report on Irag progress and successes, that would give props to McCains past decisions. Does anyone else wonder why the many Iraq successes aren't reported to the masses who don't bother to figure things out for themselves?
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Originally Posted by Muskan
Muskan, very well thought out post. I agree with quite a few points that you have made. Given where our country is going and anyones realistic ability to stop the slide, I adhere to a policy of supporting the least damaging candidate in elections now. Not a big fan of McCain for some of his positions, but given the other guys blatant socialist plans, there is really no other choice for me in this election, since 'none of the above' is not a viable choice. :)
Which is exactly why i am voting for McCain and Palin, (especially Palin in my book) the best chance for us to reclaim our traditional values lays with those two.
I happened to be in Jueanu the night of Palin's RNC speech and Anchorage for the following week. I asked a lot of people what they thought of her and they were almost to a person extremely complimentary of her, saying that she had reduced state spending, got rid of of unnecessary state jobs and pushed to get more revenue in by trying to expand energy options. The only guy that did not like her was someone who lost a job due to a cutback, understandable I guess. How people spoke in glowing terms said a lot about here, I wonder if she realized the hack job that DNC was going to do to her when she accepted the VP offer?Quote:
Originally Posted by denuseri
The art of the political smear is not restricted to the DP, but they sure are damn good at it. You have to wonder if they would have put up a woman on their ticket with similiar experience levels howe they would have defended her?
In any case, I have to agree with you, I was supportive, but not too enthused about McCain until he chose Palin. She is a breath of fresh air with a great moral compass. If McCain manages to win, there is a good chance she could be the first female president. Now wouldn't that be something?
Barack Obama is currently campaigning on the promise of a middle class tax cut, just like candidate Bill Clinton did in 1992. Clinton exhorted that the top 2% of earners pay 'just a little bit more' to make this tax cut a reality. 43% of the people bought it, and Clinton won the presidency. Isn't it similar to the case of Obama?
In February 1993, President Bill Clinton addressed the country by saying "I've worked harder on this than anything I've ever done in my life, and while I said I'd like to lower your taxes, I can't." He then increased federal income taxes on all four brackets. Later that year, the Senate faced the issue and with a 50-50 deadlock, Al Gore cast the deciding vote. It determined the vote for increasing taxes was going to pass. And they got a chance to take out more money forcibly from the citizens as compulsory taxation.
Barack Obama has also used same tactics of social welfare.
I feel that maybe more americans now just don't really care, and are letting media biases determine their thoughts and actions. There are plenty of first time voters in this election that are eager for the chance to vote against the Republican Party, and will obviously have no recollection of the "big lie" Clinton played on the masses.
How far into an Obama presidency will he retract his middle class tax cut promise? Will he wait several weeks, a few weeks like Clinton, or will he renounce it before he even takes office? It's not a matter of if, it's a matter of when.
How can anyone trust that Obama will keep his word about tax cuts, when he also has so many expensive programs on his agenda? How can anyone trust what is being presented in Obama's campaign?
"Make it a hundred...That would be fine with me." -to a questioner who asked if he supported President Bush's vision for keeping U.S. troops in Iraq for 50 years
"I'm going to be honest: I know a lot less about economics than I do about military and foreign policy issues. I still need to be educated."
"My friends, we have reached a crisis, the first probably serious crisis internationally since the end of the Cold War." --on Russia's invasion of Georgia, forgetting crises such as the Gulf War, 9/11, and the Iraq war, Aspen, Colorado, Aug. 14, 2008
"In the 21st century nations don't invade other nations." --on Russia's military action against Georgia, Birmingham, Mich., Aug. 13, 2008
"We have a lot of work to do. It's a very hard struggle, particularly given the situation on the Iraq-Pakistan border." --referring to a border that does not exist, ABC News interview, July 21, 2008
"I was concerned about a couple of steps that the Russian government took in the last several days. One was reducing the energy supplies to Czechoslovakia." --referring to a country that no longer exists, Phoenix, Arizona, July 14, 2008
"The issue of economics is not something I've understood as well as I should. I've got Greenspan's book."
"You know that old Beach Boys song, Bomb Iran? Bomb bomb bomb, bomb bomb Iran." --breaking into song after being asked at a VFW meeting about whether it was time to send a message to Iran, Murrells Inlet, South Carolina, April 18, 2007
"Well, it's common knowledge and has been reported in the media that Al Qaeda is going back into Iran and receiving training and are coming back into Iraq from Iran. That's well known. And it's unfortunate." -before correcting himself by saying Iran was training "extremists," not Al Qaeda (There's that Sunni, Shia thing again, right John?)
"No one has supported President Bush on Iraq more than I have."
"The fact is that I have agreed with President Bush far more than I have disagreed. And on the transcendent issues, the most important issues of our day, I've been totally in agreement and support of President Bush. --"Meet the Press" interview, June 19, 2005
"It's not social issues I care about."
"There are neighborhoods in Baghdad where you and I could walk through those neighborhoods today." --prior to visiting a Baghdad market while being flanked by 22 soldiers, 10 armored Humvees, and two Apache attack helicopters
"Our economy, I think, is still -- the fundamentals of our economy are strong." --Jacksonville, Fla., Sept. 15, 2008
"Opening up the health insurance market to more vigorous nationwide competition, as we have done over the last decade in banking, would provide more choices of innovative products less burdened by the worst excesses of state-based regulation." --in the Sept./Oct. issue of Contingencies
..and John McCain has zero "executive experience" or for that matter he has had zero private sector experience either.
Another Republican with "Daddy" issues.
I already voted...care to guess who for?
I voted early today at the local polling station.
Thanks for the preeceeding post providing a bunch of quotes (alltough it would be nice to know who said them) personifing the smear campagin of Obama and the media against the Republicans.
It just proves as Muskan said that they are willing to say anything they can get away with to win.
100% of the quotes are by John McCain. No smearing, just quoting what the man said.Quote:
Originally Posted by denuseri
I'm sure that you would not mind providing the journalistic atribution for these quotes. Please don't point to some wacko blog making things up speaking to the "talking point kiddies".Quote:
Originally Posted by Dr_BuzzCzar
I would expect to see dates, times, witnesses, etc.
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Originally Posted by DesertDom
I'm sure some of them where taken out of context also.
That is what they were doing on the Obama T.V. adds, showing clips of his speeches that made it seem like he was talking about a whole other topic.
Total B.S.