Isn't that a little bit like throwing handgrenades in glass houses? Everybody here likes to do something which many people would consider "is just wrong.......and gross". I'd rather like opinions like that are vented in other more suitable forums.
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Tom - I kinda agree with you on that, but I didn't say anything because she stated that it was her own view, and didn't say her opinion was what others should believe.
ID
omg - ID's avatar. i love it.
now about the pets.........i agree with frankee - do what you will but just be kind to the critters.
Thanks cookie
first off, moptop; that was awesome, thanks for posting.
secondly, thank you psynymph for posting! glad to see this topic here, it's been one of my most difficult fantasies. by far. Even inside BDSM, it's hard to suggest to people that you like this, because there's always such a huge chance that they'll reject you. And when you're in a BDSM relationship, you don't want to take that chance, because it's hard enough to establish it in the first place. Especially if you're a male sub.
But the topic of bestiality always gets me a little hot. Even though I normally don't have very gay tendencies, I get turned on a lot by the thought of a male dog taking me. I suppose it might have something to do with my submissiveness. But, I'm thinking that it has more to do with my love for anal play. The idea of doing that with another man is only exciting (for me) in the context of BDSM, whereas bestiality is is hot no matter what. The fact that I've never had a dog myself makes it much worse for me. When I was younger, my father was pretty much scared shitless of anything moving that wasn't human, so I wasn't allowed to get a dog. And now, my life is too chaotic...I want an Alaskan Malamute, but those can be expensive, and at this point in my life, I don't think I would be able to properly take care of him. It's so frustrating to want something, to almost be able to get it, but be denied because of little practicalities.
As for the question of abuse when there's a male human and a female dog...there's really a couple of things to consider. Someone said earlier that the canine vaginal tract is too small for a human penis. If this is true, then it certainly is abuse. But I would thing that this varies from dog to dog, and should be practiced with common sense. Also, someone mentioned that you can easily read a dog's body language to gauge consent, and I'd have to agree with that. Even though I've never had one for a prolonged amount of time, I've lived with friends that had dogs and some of my relatives/close friends have them as well. I do think that it's pretty easy to read their body language. So I think when combined with common sense and caution, it should be an okay fantasy to pursue.
Personally, to me it seems a little "dirty" and I don't mean this offensively in any form of the word. In fact, it goes to show the oddity of perception. I'm fine with being fucked senseless by a male dog, even sucking him off, but I find a man having sex with a female dog is dirty? It's preposterous! I don't discriminate though, and don't mind people doing it as long as it's safe for all parties involved. I also kind of hope I get over my little prejudices.
I know I've rambled on a LOT, but one last thing; as a psychology student, it's really interesting, and *very stimulating* to discover little taboos and prejudices. I swear, this posting will keep me up all night because I'll be thinking about a million different things. so thanks again, psynymph. and it was very brave of you to post, moptop, even if a lot of people didn't post back. Everyone that posted in the earlier threads, those stories were hot too ;)
~star
thank you star but really the people like Timberwolf and karin deserve more kudos. i didn't even have the guts to say it was something i was interested in.
lol i'm a chicken!
laine is entitled to her opinion. she didn't say anything offensive really. it's good to have both view presented. although, laine, maybe (in a nice way) you could tell us why you don't like it.
"Even though I normally don't have very gay tendencies, I get turned on a lot by the thought of a male dog taking me. I suppose it might have something to do with my submissiveness."
I could copy that about word for word actually. I'm not into guys really, but I've had the male dog fantasy myself yes. And for me it is definitely part of my submisive fantasies, though it's one that I don't know that I'd ever live out.
I too, have had to learn to think of this as something other than gross.
I have to smile when I remember the first time my Master mentioned the possibility of pairing me with a dog. My initial reaction of "yeeewwww!!!" was that of a fourteen year old and amused him. He has brought me so far since then...to the point of craving it. He carefully cultivated my interest by pushing me to read about it, look at pictures of, and eventually to begin writing about it in stories for him. He delved into my thoughts and got my mind to break down the initial walls, to wrap around the kinkiness and accept the idea of having a dog not only licking my pussy but plunging his hard cock up my cunt to explode a load of hot cum inside of me. I was going to do it willing or not but I have gotten to the point where I want very much to do this for him...to give him the pleasure of watching me being fucked by a dog. My only problem now is where to find one....any ideas??
Pet shop? dog pound? but remember, a dog is for life, not just for kinkiness!
Sorry, in rather facetious mood. But, I really don't know if you could 'borrow' a dog for this - although of course he wouldn't kiss and tell...
Borrowing a dog very well might work, if find someone with a twisted dog. (I know borrowing would probley work because I have a freind down here whos husky seems to be enamoured with me and tries humping my leg, arm, etc everytime I go there, much to my annoyance, and everyone else's comic relief, I swear everytime I visit that dog knocks me over and tries to screw me, normally I wouldn't admit to this, figure enough people have seen me being terrorized by tank, but I guess its ok to admit here, no it doesn't turn me on it does however scare the hell out of me)
As my status reads, I am exploring all sexuality. I have seen movies and pictures of this, and it turned me on greatly. For me it was the submissiveness of the women being taken by a dog, a horse, a snake, etc. It also turned me on to see how much cum a dog or a horse can spray onto a woman. I love cumshots and bukkake in almost any way, and seeing a woman trying to gulp down almost a pint of horse cum is equally impressing and exciting to me.
About rights of animals, I don't think they have any inherent rights as such. I love animals, and I do my best to be nice to all of them, even the ones I don't like (phobia of frogs of all things). But rights as such I don't believe they have. We, as humans, have the responsibility to treat them with respect and kindness and not use them excessively. That brings up animal-tryouts of medication and other fields of exploration. I would rather have it tested on animals to find the flaws before it is being offered to me, and it turns out to be deadly.
For the last 8 months I have been down because my cat has gone missing. It went missing one time earlier for about two weeks, and I couldn't have been happier when I got him back. When he went missing the second time, I waited and waited and waited for him for weeks. Put up some posters, but nothing. I have thought about getting another one, but I found after some soul-searching that I probably aren't a good keeper of a cat.
Beastiality is not for the masses, as are a lot of things. The things that ARE for the masses, tends to be bland and non-interesting, inciting no emotions at all.
If anyone now knows what I'm trying to say, I'm impressed, as I don't quite know myself anymore.
I was intrigued after reading this thread, so I did an internet search about beastiality to see what I could find out about it. I came across an interesting forum- the Beast Forum- that is similar to this one, only revolving around beastiality instead of BDSM. Has anyone here been there? Some of the stuff was kind of thought-provoking. Just thought I'd pass it along.
-Phan
I have always had K9 fantasies. Not actually being a participant but the trainer or breeder pre-say. I find my fantasies very hot but to tell you the truth I am pretty sure I wouldn’t explore them. I can’t seem to resolve the conflict I feel inside about using animals for sex.
I have been a dog owner and I believe it is an owner’s responsibility to protect there animals just as it is a parent’s job to protect there children. See my conflict. I think of my pets as furry children so using them in a sexual way is taboo for me. Believe me when I say the thought of exploring with them did cross my mind but I just couldn’t do it.
There where also practical reasons for never crossing that bridge. The thought of them suddenly thinking human females where there for relief made me realize no female would be safe if they entered the house. The image of them knocking down my grand baby and having their way with her was enough to sober me up. Hence my philosophy about not fucking around with mother nature.
That being said I have watched a few K9 Bestiality films and have found them hotter than hell. ~grins It is a great fantasy and maybe one I will explore if the circumstances are ever right for me but for now it will just stay a fantasy.
Jade
Have looked at this Beast Forum Phantome talked about, and I for one will probably never visit that site again. After reading a thread that the mods holds in high regard to the point where 3/4 of it says the word "bump" to keep it at the top of that sub-forum, I realised that they are too discriminating and in-flexible for my liking. The rulebook alone took the interest from me. The big issue they have, are that it is illegal to have several accounts. You aren't even allowed to look at the forum with the computer of a fellow forum member, because that will get you both banned from the site. And I particularly don't like the rule saying that an account will never be deleted, even at the request of the user, who can document his/her ownership of the account. That sounds like blackmail to me. Along the lines of "we keep this to ensure you will never try to shut us down, 'cause then we will show to the world that you have been a member here, and that will destroy you."
And it's near-impossible to follow the rules unless you are an attorney-at-law, because there are at least five different rules to each sub-forum on top of the general twenty of the entire forum, with rules about getting so-and-so credit for posting here, but not there, and so-and-so credit for posting in that place.
And extortion are used it seems. If you, by any mistake or misconception of the rules, even after alerting/asking the mods if it's alright, get a disabled download, you have two options: Upload 150+ genuine items to the forum, or pay through your nose to be an Elite member.
If you intend to check out this site, be very careful and be sure you truly want your membership there to be on record for, possibly, the end of time.
It does sound pretty shitty. I don't even feel like bothering to visit. A better place for those interested in bestiality would be http://www.zooskool.com . They have a genuine community there. In fact, someone mentioned it earlier in this thread.
Yeah Otti- I was pretty turned off by it all, too. However, I did do some curious poking around because I had never seen a forum that was dedicated to that subject, particularly because in many areas, it is very illegal. I did think that a lot of what I saw was fairly dodgy, none of it having anything to do with beastiality......
-Phan
Agreed, both worlds are highly sensitive and EXTREMELY highly kinky; rarely will you find so many people really getting off at this fantasy knowing they will NEVER dulge into it in real life.
My personal opinion about a submissive female being taken by a male dog while her Master watches and aides in the process can be expressed in one single word:
Yummy!
But then again: it's firmly attached in the world of my fantasy, and I don't think it might ever get to this side of the blurry line between the two worlds...
First, it's been some months since I've had time to post in here and have had alot of things change since the last time I posted.
I took a philosophy class last year in which we explored this a little at the end of the term. Of course, in the class everyone was either dead silent or fervently refuting interest (I didn't help that there was a couple very hot girls in the class, but that's an aside that is accepted in college). I find it intriguing that everyone is so quick to label Human male to Canine Female abusive but is either willing to allow their partners to enjoy canine companionship. I don't think that either are abusive, and I seriously don't think that size is going to be a factor... unless the guy is hung like a giraffe or something. That being said, here's my two sense.
It's facinatingly intrigueing, frankly. We as sentient beings view interspecies coupling as foul, but I think that that has more to do with clarity of the species than anything; that being handed down for centuries. If you think that this is foul, should we address the Leviticus section of the bible on coupling with a human woman? I think that if my partner expressed her interest in it, I would assist her gladly.
A little more: This reminds me of a story I read when I was in high school about a woman slave who was kept in a cage late at night and forced to service her masters Dogs. At one point, they were jogging (her naked and being pulled with a chain attached to her nipple rings) and she tripped. Because the dog was with her and he saw her vulnerable, he mounted her with passerbys around. One note is that she only got one type of food... should I give you a hint or is it obvious?
Anyways, if anyone is interested in looking at it, I could prolly kind the copy of the philosophy paper I read on it. It was intriguing and slightly titalizing.
Star_Catcher77, just want to send you a big thank you for the information on
the zooskool site. My Master made a connection with an owner there and
we had quite the expereince this past weekend...we could not have done it
without you! I am working now on a post to describe exactly how this
expereince fulfilled me both physically and mentally...it was a great Christmas gift to my Master...submitting to this large dog for him...more later.
Ohhhhhh BTW.... I STILL have a male looking for a "friend"
There is another thread somewhere around here that asks "why did you join?" and "why do you stay?" Well, this would be right up there on the list of top answers for both. I mean where else can one read about beastiality, female ejaculation, and everyday piss-off's all in the same forum??? I'm new to this site, and don't know much about any others, but I'm betting there aren't that many sites that offer what this one does. And even if I'm wrong, it'd be money worth losing. :p
To reply to the original idea Psynymph presented, no, I don't believe it's wrong to involve animals in sexual activities...adding the caveat that states everyone, and everything, must be treated with the utmost concern and consideration, of course.
~overwhelmed with sheer giddiness at being able to discuss such a topic!~
What a place!! :264:
in my opinion, beastiality is just another perversity the human mind has come up with, yes some people might think it's sick but not all people think alike now do they :)
I have succeeded in finding a dog to give my Master the fantasy he desired! This past weekend we traveled down into KY and connected with the owner of a large rottie. The internet site that Obey Me sent me to was terrific, so many of my fears were put to rest before we even arrived. This site had extensive lessons on exactly how to go about preparing to be fucked my a dog. The owner spent some time with me making sure I had the proper posture and knew what to expect before he had the dog make friends with me.
I must admit that the site of the dog scared me when I first saw him; large and extremely broad across his chest I could not imagine the size of the cock he had hidden beneath him. My Master had his crop handy so I knew better than to balk but my palms began to sweat as I trembled with anticipation. My hands were not the only things that began to get damp!
There I was, kneeling on the floor, elbows locked, back arched down to tilt my cunt up in the air at just the right angle, my pussy wet in anticipation of the hard O-bone of the dog connecting with my tender pussy. Glancing up I saw my Master smiling at me from across the room as the rottie took a few quick licks of my juicy hole mounting me much more quickly then I thought. I would have liked a bit more attention from that long rough tongue rubbing me from my clit all the way to my asshole...but this was not about my pleasure but fulfilling the fantasy of my Master. The entry was fast and hard...the dog shoved that stiff shaft in me in one long thrust that took my breath away and then started pumping furiously in and out of me before shooting jets of cum into my tender cunt. The first fuck happened so fast I barely had time to beg my Master to cum...but I did manage to orgasm before it was over. No sooner had he pulled his cock from my dripping pussy then it was presented to me to suck. My lips remained sealed until my Master told me to suck it and I knew it was not a request but an order. The hard tip went between my lips and back into my throat as I gagged on the cum that shot from it. Dogs cum again and again, watery thin jets of salty cum continued to shoot down my mouth as I gently worked at milking at work the last of it from the hard cock as my Master looked on.
The second coupling was so intense I am getting wet just thinking about it. I was not finished with just the one encounter, as the site of me being dog fucked was not enough for my Master, he wanted to see me knotted. For those of you who aren't familiar with a dog's anatomy, the cock has a huge knot that forms at the base of their cocks when they fuck. It seals their cock inside the bitch so that they can cum again and again and not lose any of their seed, it is far inside the cunt with no way to get out. The process of knotting is painful with a big dog because their knots can be larger than a big lemon. Fear of the pain made me shake as the rottie once again wrapped his front paws around me and slid his hard rod into me. When instructed I pushed back against him and felt the beginning of the knot slip into me. I then felt the initial growth begin to stretch my cunt lips but kept it in me as the pain and pressure began to spread. The burning sensation as that knot sealed itself in me had me whimpering and biting my lip to keep from squealing out loud...but then the hot pulsing streams of cum started and the tingling began to grow as I let go of the pain and took in the look of amazement on my Master's face. The sensation of the dog orgasming in me againI began to beg him once again was all I needed to begin to beg him once again for permission to cum as he slipped his fingers inside me to feel the knot wedged inside....
It was an experience beyond anything I had ever done for him before....hope to do it again for him soon...
Yeah.....see....thats hott........like wayyyyyyyyyyy hott.....
Lucky Master...Lucky Puppy!
Obey Me, just want to formally apologize for not recoginizing you in my first thank you note...I realize now that you are the nice man who sent me in the proper direction... thank you, sir! Oh, and I am glad you liked reading about my experience...
Has anyone read Topping from below, if you get the chance it is a very good read
have the author?
Her name is Laura Reese
I got a bit of a kick out of people speaking about animal rights. This, for more than one reasons but especially as homo sapiens are animals.
I would also like to clarify the notion that animals are not capable of true thought. This was a popular notion that has since been proven incorrect in various experiments, most notably the Koko experiment and further in other experiments with primates and cetaceans.
Finally, I would like to point out that the notion of "rights" is a purely man-made concept, just as "right" and "wrong" are man-made concepts. As a man-made concept they can be applied witheld to any creature on the planet.
As for bestiality - go for it, so long as you are not being cruel or forcing it upon the animal.
Beastiality has long been a fantacy. I do belong to a couple "beasty sites" but haven't acted on it yet. The key word there being yet. It's intresting the diffrent views people have on this though.
Ds
I haven't noticed many inputs in this thread from male submissives. To qualify what I am about to say, this desire, about which I have mixed feelings, is not something that I have ever done.
I was in a casual relationship with a dominant female Air Force nurse. She had two large dogs. One afternoon she told me that she wanted to watch me suck off her male dog and that she intended to make sure that I did just that -- using as much force as necessary to get me to comply (obviously, for this "little" scenario I would first be somewhat bound, albeit in a vulnerable position). Ironically/fortunately, she got orders to ship out to Bahrain before her desire reached a point that she acted upon it.
Nonetheless, to this day, the idea of submitting to so much perverse power, as distasteful as the actual act would be, has had an erotic hold on me.
I know this is an old thread, but its great to see such a taboo brought up.....It is definately something which turns me on although I don't know if I would actually ever do it in R/L!
As I say about alot of things, each to their own
in a way i think this subject does have something to do with bdsm...i think a girl submitting to a dog would be the most submissive thing she could ever do...
The Dogs
Three dogs were sitting in the waiting room at the vet's, discussing why they were there. The first dog, a poodle, told his woeful tale.
"My owners bought the great new sports car with leather seats. They took me for a ride in it one day, and I was so excited, I couldn't help myself. I wet all over the backseat. I'm here to be put down." The other two dogs nodded sympatheticly, then the second, a Kelpie, explained his situation.
"A brand new Persian rug had just been placed in the loungeroom, and it was very expensive. My owners made a big fuss of it, when it came. Then, once when I was in the room, I had an incredible urge to roll all over it. So I did, and ended up getting quite a bit of my fur over the mat. My owners were very annoyed, and sent me here to be put to sleep." The other two dogs nodded, and the first dog asked the third, a German Shepard, what he was there for.
"My owner has this habit of cleaning the house in the nude, and once when she was cleaning under the sofa, I just couldn't help myself. I jumped on and had the ride of my life." The other dogs tut-tutted.
"So you're here to be put down too?" he asked. The Shepard shook his head.
"No, just to get my nails clipped!"
I will admit to being very very interested in this topic and have thought about and read a great deal on the topic. While there is a great deal on women being taken by animal most of the male stuff is on giving rather then receiving. The humiliation of it would be so powerful that well just thinking about it gets me pretty worked up.
hey, here's an interesting thing I just found!
Sudan man forced to 'marry' goat
http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/africa/4748292.stm