In public and leashed!

Hi all! Just wanted to let you guys know what happened to me today!


After Master got off work at 6pm (tonight) and we went to the mall.
There's a Target built inside the mall, and he bought me a leash!!!!!

OMFS! I was soo happy! And after he paid, he opened it and leashed me. And walked me a like a kitty! And it was so fun!

I felt so happy and content. I was on cloud nine! Which is a big deal for me since I'm always almost depressed (not to the point of suicide just enough for me to be "EMO" and cut), or I'm pissed the fuck off.

And we went to HOTTOPIC to look for some makeup and there we saw one of my old vanilla friends (she never did believe me that I was My Master's kitten untill now) from school.

She was like "HI how are you? What is that? What's up with that?"
And I grinned as my Master answered "She's my kitty."
"OH! You're gonna be a kitty for Halloween?"
"Yeah I am."
"No, she's just my kitty."
"Yes I'm Master's Kitty."

and she walked off.

And it was so funny to see all those vanillas staring at me. It was so fun. I liked it so much.

Hmm.

I understand having one's fun.

But...my personal preference isn't to make everyone around me uncomfortable.

After all, they are "vanilla" for a reason.

Just, in my humble opinion.

I really don't care what people around me think. Personally I was just ecstatic to be with my Master with a leash. Since I've been pestering him for one for a while now.

Sounds like you had a good time and was very happy being collared and leashed. As I'm into public humiliation and showing up I understand that.
I can understand hopperboo's point of view too though.
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Originally Posted by HelenaKitten

I really don't care what people around me think. Personally I was just ecstatic to be with my Master with a leash. Since I've been pestering him for one for a while now.

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Obviously you do care what people think of you, because you like making your old friends and the public uncomfortable....

I can't help feel sorry for the people that are forced into playing a game they didn't sign up for.

Public play can be done if it's done tactfully and in the right places, at the right times.

I personally would be very upset if I had my children in the mall while people were playing their kinky games. Though it is nearer to Halloween so hopefully that would be an easy way to explain it.



Maybe playing with your leash in not such a public place, or perhaps in a different area/time would be another possibility.

Again, this is just in my opinion.

I understand both sides of the argument. Personally, I love public humiliation, but one does have to be careful not to offend innocent members of the public for fun. I mean- I have many fantasies that involve public audiences, but I think it would be best not to act them out.

I think hopperboo is right that it isn't good to subject unwilling vanillas to lots of kinky games- but I also understand that Helena wanted to show off. I personally have a nice long chain leash that I would love to go out in public on with my Master- but I cannot think of many situations in which it would be appropriate. I think, and I apologize if I am wrong, possibly Helena had some bad experiences with those vanilla friends that understandably made her want to show off to them.

Again, I apologize if I assume too much, Helena. I just know it can be hard to draw the line between public fantasies and practical realities.

So Helena, congrats on the leash! And hopper- I agree with you too. Let's not make those vanilla's too too jealous ;-)

Yeah. The last thing I need is more competition from those vanillas! :P Eks!

You know though...one can still wear a leash in public if they stick to a more "fully adult" place, and do so later on in the evenings.

i.e. BDSM or goth bars, or even just regular bars that cater to those over 21. Even walking around the city at at dark, after the 'younger' age group is out of view.

I totally agree with the romance of public humiliation, but I wouldn't want someone else to suffer something they are offended by because I am purposefully trying make them suffer so.

I think some people should get of their high horse. This is a bdsm site and she was looking to share a happy experience, not to be put down. Especially as they weren't doing anything wrong or causing anyone any trouble...if some people don't like it - they shouldn't watch...its no different then people holding hands or kissing...they were hardly fornicating in public or going around naked.

As for making people uncomfortable...oh please...there are punkers walking around with spiked heads, smelly homeless people, people yelling on their cell phone, mummies in dirty sweats with their progeny running wild (seeing a lash might give them a good idea, :rolleyes:), preteen girls walking around in provocative clothing, mothers nursing in public, teenagers making out, grown ups making out....my point is, whatever one does he is going to offend someone,...and they didn't even come close to crossing the line of indecency.

I am happy for you Helena, :wave:.

Kudos to you Helena, I'm glad you enjoyed your leash.

For me personally, while I would like to do that, I don't have the courage to do that in a public place.
There can be a fine line when you openly express yourself in public, but I don't think that wearing a collar and leash is going overboard.
It might create a few stares and sniggers, but no one is doing anything truly offensive.
Taking a submissive out naked, tying them up and having sex with them in public would be crossing a line.
The couple in Ontario, who were roleplaying crossed a line. He tied and gagged his submissive in a convertible; subsequently the police were called.

There are also a lot of people who choose to wear goth style clothing, and that elicits a lot of stares, but it doesn't harm anyone in the long run.
Women are allowed to go topless in Ontario, and there were a couple of women that did so here where I live. I would worry more about my childeren seeing that than a woman on a leash.

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Originally Posted by cadence

Women are allowed to go topless in Ontario, and there were a couple of women that did so here where I live. I would worry more about my childeren seeing that than a woman on a leash.

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Holy crap! :o

Seriously?!?!




...and for the other comment, yes, I am aware someone is going to be offended about something, not matter what. I am just saying...why do it on purpose?

To me, it sounded from the post as if the purpose of this was to offend people and put them on display. (If that makes sense).

To me, I don't see the harm in saying there are better places to pull off ones kinks - kinks should be in an adult oriented environment if one feels they have to be made very aware of in public. :)



And yes, this is a BDSM site, but I am betting the mall wasn't a BDSM mall. ;) (I do see where you are coming from though).

Yes, women are allowed to go topless in a few places in the US. I know they are definitely allowed to in New York state, not sure which other states. It is because it is viewed as gender discrimination for men to be allowed to be topless but not women.

Holy smokes!!!

I had no idea!

Geesh........................ I need to get out more!





...*Is still like...omgosh!*

I remember in New York, a woman sued the police- either an officer or the whole department, don't remember which- for arresting her for being topless, because it was not against the law, and she won.

I personally have fantasies like that, but don't know if it would actually be a good idea to pull off. I mean- I like to think I look good topless :-P but don't think everyone else is really in the mood to see it!

Anyway- didn't mean to threadjack! Congrats again on your leash! I always think it is fun to be a kitty :-)

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Originally Posted by hopperboo

Holy crap! :o

Seriously?!?!


Yup, but after that a by-law was put into place that does not allow women to be topless in residential areas or beaches.
I think you can still walk topless on highways and public roads.




...and for the other comment, yes, I am aware someone is going to be offended about something, not matter what. I am just saying...why do it on purpose?

To me, it sounded from the post as if the purpose of this was to offend people and put them on display. (If that makes sense).

Yes it does make sense, but that is not what the poster implied, she only wanted to share a moment which made her very happy

To me, I don't see the harm in saying there are better places to pull off ones kinks - kinks should be in an adult oriented environment if one feels they have to be made very aware of in public. :)

There is no harm in stating your opinion, however it is best to criticize the act on a personal level for you, not the person (if that makes sense)

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It makes me very uncomfortable to see women breastfeeding in public...and they even think they should be complimented. :rolleyes:

I have never been in a homosexual mall either...but that doesn't mean that them holding hands in public doesnt make some people uncomfortable or that they should be banned or told to go hold hands some place else because of it.

It makes me very uncomfortable to see teenagers practically having sex in public transport...but they still do it, and the only reason why is....because they like making older people uncomfortable.

Wearing a collar or leash..in our lifestyle constitutes wearing a ring. A bride gets a kick out of showing off her ring, so why shouldn't Helena get a kick showing off her leash and bragging how much she is happy with her master. Its only human.

And those delicate vanilla women...as a sign of “he is mine” put hands on their partners behinds or grope their thighs....its a sign of ownership and they dont mind their kids seeing that. *shrugs* There is nothing shameful in bdsm or wearing a leash...some people don't want to live their life in a closet, and as long as they don't expose themselves any more than vanilla people, why should they hide. :)

I for one would love to live in a world where no one would think strange seeing me on a leash with my boyfriend, but rather as a sign of devotion...and that I could go about the rest of my life (work, family) without having to defend myself afterwords.

I was just thinking.. its legal for women to go topless just about any were as long as there nipples are covered (if I'm correct) hmmm should we start making men wear pasties too? could be fun right? All joking aside Helena I'm glad you had a happy moment and I'm sure you and your dom are very considerate in your actions and what you do in public.
I wish you MANY more happy moments :)

Congratulations on your new leash and your first outing. I'm sure your master was quite pleased with you. It certainly sounds like you enjoyed your walk. :)

That's really nice, Helena. Now i've just got to figure out a smart way to bring my Master to do that with me too. And to hell with people who are offended. They'll just have to deal with it, like i have to deal with a lot of stuff that's offending or annoying.

On another note: Americans obsession with naked tits in public never ceases to surprise me.

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Originally Posted by lucy

On another note: Americans obsession with naked tits in public never ceases to surprise me.

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LOL, thanks for making me laugh.

:wave:

You're so welcome, damyanti :)

To all of you. I didn't purposely freak them out. I just loved the way they were staring at me. Besides I was wearing street clothes (a pair of green cargo shorts, black Chuck Noriss shirt , missmatched socks, and shoes.) So yeah.

thanks for all the support. And I LOVED MY WALK!

besides I saw a bunch of gay teens (both male and male, female and female.) Making out and coming out of the breast feeding areas.

So yeah.

thanks again

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Originally Posted by Veralynne

Yes, women are allowed to go topless in a few places in the US. I know they are definitely allowed to in New York state, not sure which other states. It is because it is viewed as gender discrimination for men to be allowed to be topless but not women.

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NY def has topless places and nude,Robert Moses beach on LI has a whole beach section for nude beaching

sorry for the late posting about this and Congrats to Helena on her collar, Glad to see that you wear it proudly
*hugs

for late posting (guilty of it as well) XD thanks for the congrats

HelenaKitten I am happy for you and your Master.

I love being on my Owner's leash whenever possible it is for me a great privelage.

As you can see the idea of public bondage/ehibition is a little controversial for some of us for various reasons. I myself have been known on occassion to be dressed rather strange (goth/punk rock girl here), but once I started working and pursueing careers where aperance is important etc, I realized a need for some sence of decency even If it bugs the crap out of me sometime. (some of that teenage angst is still with me today lol)

What matters most is that you and your Master are safe and mutually comfortable with whatever levels of exposure you decide to engage in whilst at the same time not breaking any local laws that may get you in trouble.

I myself have mixed feelings when it comes to being exposed in some public as well as private settings. Like I would be distressed if my Owner wanted to fuck me silly on the altar in my mothers church during comunion or something like that (giggles).

In any event I most certianly make every attempt to adjust my dress, decorum and demeanor "now days" ~rolls my eyes at my own confomity to the "system"~ (even if I didn't all the time when I was younger) in a manner appropriate to each situation within reason whenever possible; where as, in some at other times I am openly wanton, to pornographic extremes. Really really unihibited and totally unconserned at all about what other people may think if you know what I mean (winks).

Location... location... location... blushes.

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Originally Posted by Veralynne

I like to think I look good topless

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That would be a big "yes".

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Originally Posted by denuseri

Like I would be distressed if my Owner wanted to fuck me silly on the altar in my mothers church during comunion or something like that (giggles).

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*writes scenario down for later use*

Right now I am a student. I want to study art so that I can draw comics, and English since I also want to be a novelist (to what kind of novels I've not decided yet). And since I'm all into the gothic metal head scene the choice of dress doesnt really bother me. And especially since I wasnt wearing anything revealing.

But I must say that being leashed in pubic (as long as we're having fun) is great.

I have been walked on a leash in public, actually at the airport when I picked Master up (he lives in another state) was really up tight about it when he told me to bring the leash with me. but when he was walking me on it, it was wonderful. Didnt really notice if anyone stared or not was not paying attention to anyone else

Congrats on your collar first and foremost Helena! i can see everyone's point of view here, but there is nothing quite like having your submission so visible to others around you. Again, location location location is right! Bless your heart denu!! Doesn't it suck when conformity is no longer an option?? As a single mom of two teenage boys in a small town, i have truly learned that *my* feelings aren't the only ones that are important. Such a bitch, but true nonetheless. i would never want my actions to embarrass or draw negative attention to my sons in any way, so discretion is often the better part of valor *chuckles softly*

Now when i was young and childless??? Different story all together. There is a time and a place for everything and i find it extremely erotic to be leashed. Of course, since i live in a part of the country where i'm not even sure a Dom exists.....LMAO.....it's not been an issue as of late!!! i DO know that it would be frowned upon heavily here in the middle of the Bible Belt *shrugs*. Heck, they are still arguing over wether or not people have the right to have a glass of wine on Sundays down here!!!! Topless beaches would send them into perma-shock!! *giggling*

*smiles* whatever works for you and Your Master Helena......i hope you get to enjoy many more *walks* if that's what makes you both happy!

I love being taken on a walk with my leash. Like on Halloween. Some people figured it was just our costume, but other's thought more but it didnt bother me. I was just so happy to be with my Master and being walked. It wasn't realy erotic as more of a feeling of pure bliss.

Only toward the end of the night that it got erotic *giggle* where he made me pulled down the top of my dress and walked me down the street back to my house with my breasts in plain view (there was no one out and if a car drove by I was to cover up) and it was just soo perfect that I could serve my Master in that way. .. *stops* sorry kinda ranted there.

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Originally Posted by cadence

Women are allowed to go topless in Ontario, and there were a couple of women that did so here where I live. I would worry more about my childeren seeing that than a woman on a leash.

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Personally for me, I would worry more about children seeing all the violence on the tv than some naked breasts.
Breasts dont kill people (or a child´s mind for that matter), but violence and guns/knives/whatever can ;)
yeye high horses and all that ^^



btw. That sounds like you guys had a fun experience helenakitten!
:)

After all, by nature children eat from breasts for several years. And half of them will grow them eventually.

Mistress often'll have me leashed in public. I really, really like it. Get some stares, but probably not more than if we were just holding hands.

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Originally Posted by HelenaKitten

I really don't care what people around me think. Personally I was just ecstatic to be with my Master with a leash.

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awesome.

i luv seeing happy subbies...

i admire your courage

I love wearing a leash in public, but the only time I do is at my favorite club. I made my leash as an extension to a birthday gift from a friend, and as I don't want others messing with it, I also put a connector on it so that I can wear it as a bracelet. It's easier than just letting it dangle where other people who don't understand can just grab it and hang on for a while. Unfortunately, the only time I've ever been to said club with my current guy, I couldn't find my collar/leash, so I didn't get to wear it. : ( Oh well.

Thanks for so many of you guys on my side. Just want to let you guys know that I got a pic of me with just my shirt on, collar and leash in my Nail Kitty album. Yes I know the house is messy but yeah *blush*



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There are degrees to everything. People dress and act unconventionally in public, and thank democracy that they can; the line where being unconventional crosses into giving unacceptable offence is alway hard to define, and I'm very glad I'm not a cop who has to decide it. But I would say that leading someone on a leash is pretty harmless, and would only upset viewers who had major private issues with that particular thing.

From the point of view of the BDSM community, it could even be seen as a small piece of social engineering, to educate the general public into accepting bondage fans as just plain folks. Men who had the nerve to hold hands in public in the days when it was shocking did as much as any Gay Pride march to get gays publicly accepted.

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Originally Posted by HelenaKitten

Thanks for so many of you guys on my side. Just want to let you guys know that I got a pic of me with just my shirt on, collar and leash in my Nail Kitty album.

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Another one says, yes! Good for you. I am thinking Hubby will now have to do some shopping of His own, ;).

And I saw your album - you are beautiful.

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Originally Posted by HelenaKitten

Yes I know the house is messy but yeah *blush*

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Just say, "Its called creative mess, Honey," LOL. Thats what I always do. :)

Thank you. Leashes are great for soft whipping especially if they are nylon! *huggles*

Hello Helenakitten

That was really cute, my ex used to wear her collar at all times.
It was something that eventually brought my or rather our inclination out of the closet.
I guess you two are heading the same way, so enjoy, but dont get arrested or something. A collar can be seen as some sort of post-punk or Heavy metal statement. But the leach might annoy certain people.

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Originally Posted by HelenaKitten

Hi all! Just wanted to let you guys know what happened to me today!


After Master got off work at 6pm (tonight) and we went to the mall.
There's a Target built inside the mall, and he bought me a leash!!!!!

OMFS! I was soo happy! And after he paid, he opened it and leashed me. And walked me a like a kitty! And it was so fun!

I felt so happy and content. I was on cloud nine! Which is a big deal for me since I'm always almost depressed (not to the point of suicide just enough for me to be "EMO" and cut), or I'm pissed the fuck off.

And we went to HOTTOPIC to look for some makeup and there we saw one of my old vanilla friends (she never did believe me that I was My Master's kitten untill now) from school.

She was like "HI how are you? What is that? What's up with that?"
And I grinned as my Master answered "She's my kitty."
"OH! You're gonna be a kitty for Halloween?"
"Yeah I am."
"No, she's just my kitty."
"Yes I'm Master's Kitty."

and she walked off.

And it was so funny to see all those vanillas staring at me. It was so fun. I liked it so much.

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Thanks. Yeah. We dress and act like typical metal heads so it really doesnt bother much people. And we're careful not to be overtly sexual or anything to get us in trouble. But thanks for caring!