to pee or not to pee....that is the question

hi Everyone!

I have a question, and I value everyone's response & opinion but am looking only for constructive comments.
Thank you

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I have always been intrigued by water sports, but never participated...and not in the 'fun' way we often see in porn where some chick is begging for it.
I have found through experimenting with different facets of the BSDM lifestyle that there have been somethings that are better off staying a fantasy, and i am okay with that. Experimenting is good. One never knows if they truly enjoy or dislike something until they try it.

Sometimes when master is releiving Himself, I weasel my way into the bathroom when he's using the toilet so i can get a closer peek, he asks me why i am so fascinated with watching him go, and I honestly don't know. All I can think of is that mine's an innie & His is an outie. :dunno:

I don't want to be close enough to get wet, though this does appeal to me in the humiliation, degradation, punishment kinda way, even though My Master is totally not into it at all (I'm okay with that). Please note that this is different from being made to wet ones self, though this is also intriguing to me, but I KNOW why (teeheehee)

My question though is this:

* Are there others who feel like they would appreciate water sports, but don't know why?
* were you in a similar situation?
* what did you do/how did you deal with it or approach your dom with a possible solution?
* What was/is your fascination with being urinated on?




Thanks!
~ openlyrefined

"Are there others who feel like they would appreciate water sports, but don't know why?"

This is a question I've asked myself several times. Water sports are a soft limit for me. I'm not in a hurry to go there, in fact, I'm not even sure I ever will, but there is some sort of attraction. I think for me the attraction is how it would feel to be so far into my submissive self for Him that I would gladly, gratefully do this. So it's not the act itself, but rather the nature of it and the mindset necessary for me to do it that I find interesting.

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I think for me the attraction is how it would feel to be so far into my submissive self for Him that I would gladly, gratefully do this.

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Thank you jeanne, I feel the same way

it's funny, me and my girl were having that conversation the other day, but about a2m. for me it's not even something i'm all that into - parents are medicos lol (mildly germophobic) - but there is for me that small part that finds the depth of submission that would be required for her to do that for me... attractive...

Thank you Matin!

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Originally Posted by Matin

but there is for me that small part that finds the depth of submission that would be required for her to do that for me... attractive...

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but what is it we find attractive about it?

Let me share this with you:

I have been after Master for as long as i can remember to let me watch him pee. Being a girl, I don't have a penis & His fascinates me! Sometimes I'll ask him to let me hold it for him when he goes. Usually he looks at me crooked, makes an 'EW!' face & says 'no'.
Last night, however, he let me hold it for him while he went. I was SOOO excited!! (it's harder than it looks you know - there's: the right amount of pressure, aim ...) of course I made a mess & he made me clean it up, but as excited as I was to help him go, I was thoroughly squicked by having to clean up his urine.

I'm still on my quest to discover the allure, but it's nice to know that I'm not alone with my thoughts & confusion. Look forward to hearing more updates!

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Originally Posted by Matin

but there is for me that small part that finds the depth of submission that would be required for her to do that for me... attractive...

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Exactly!

I think it's is such an expression of dominance over somebody. To have a sub so eager to please that she wants to be used in this way is enticing, to say the least.

When I read your post I was nodding my head and agreeing the whole time lol. I feel like that way too. I was always fascinated with a man peeing, and still am. I too got to hold my ex's while he went to the bathroom and I too was like a rookie firefighter holding the hose for the first time lol. I guess it fascinates me because, I don't have a penis and I can't go to the bathroom like that. Plus when we grow up or any time in our life, we don't get to see the other sex going to the bathroom, so its unknown and exciting.

I have not been peed on yet but it is a fantasy of mine. I guess not one that I am dying to try but I would like to one day. I like puppy play, and for me I guess it would be like my Dom/Domme marking their territory. It would be a major turn on to be kneeling and the Dom/Domme standing over me and me waiting for them to release. Another part of it would be the ordering me to use the bathroom while they watch or something like that. No one has ever before and I'm very private that way, so to be forced to, yum.*blush* Lol. :)

:)

so i'll pose you a question then. should the allure of placing yourself that depth of submission for your master ever outweigh the ick factor of dealing with another person's pee, does watersports then go in the 'definitely want to' column?

is that another way for one's limits to shift over time?

thank you for the ... different lense... on an old topic:)

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Originally Posted by Matin

:) so i'll pose you a question then. should the allure of placing yourself that depth of submission for your master ever outweigh the ick factor of dealing with another person's pee, does watersports then go in the 'definitely want to' column?
is that another way for one's limits to shift over time?
thank you for the ... different lense... on an old topic:)

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I think for me it's situational. If He was giggling & said "okay let's give this a go" ... well, it just wouldn't happen lol. I gave it some thought though & these are some instances I think I would be happy to be 'involved' with His urine (wow - some things just never sound right, do they?)

* I have told Sir that over time I "wouldn't mind" if he made it a chore for me to hold him during urination. Perhaps if he chose to do this, golden showers would be a natural progression.
(in a strange way I think performing tasks like this, because it's so personal, makes me feel connected when he shares them with me.)

* a punishment of some sort .. maybe cumming/sqiurting without permission or if my constant 'observing' finally got to him & he wanted to teach me a lesson
(I might appreciate the experience in a more negative light - good for punishments?)

* a daily routine to act as a reminder that I am his possession and will do as He says.
(I might appreciate the experience in a more positive light, because he chooses to use me for His pleasure daily? I see this as an act of servitude.)

* I love him & everything that that includes and therefore should accept everything he gives me as a gift.
(I think for me it re-iterates the dirtiness of the act my being the dirty slut that I am (for Him)).

hmmm maybe it is just this simple:
I want to learn everything about him so I can serve him better & I want Him to use me as he sees fit.
But I don't want Him to take advantage of my submission & make me do things just cuz they are 'icky'.

either way, I don't think my curiosity will wane anytime soon (sorry Sir, hehehe)

thank you for humoring my question. and for answering so thoroughly.

i am still trying to get to where i feel i've got a handle on the 'psychology' of dominance and submission, and your thread has given me a lot to think on.

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-matin

always happy to help, Matin, but i am still only one person. Maybe others will have more insight based on their needs & experience?

you know i can read and read these threads all day, and from most all of them i'll get 'something' i can take away from it...

then there are the ones that make you go 'aha! ive been thinking about that but (s)he put it in a way i can much more easily wrap my mind around'.

*shrug* :)

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Originally Posted by Matin

you know i can read and read these threads all day, and from most all of them i'll get 'something' i can take away from it...

then there are the ones that make you go 'aha! ive been thinking about that but (s)he put it in a way i can much more easily wrap my mind around'.

*shrug* :)

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I understand COMPLETELY!

my interworkings on water sports if we have a long session I will not have the option to go and they will force it out at sometime durring the session and have alot .so if your asking if I like it yes .

I have never exprenced it but I have thought about it. I think it is one of those things that if my partner went to pee on me, I would let him/her or if he/she asked me to I would try it. I don't know how actively I would seek it out though but if the situation presented itself I would try it.

I have always loved watching a man pee. My ex ( vanilla ) used to let me hold it while he went. Usually a total turn on that ended in hot sex. My new Master has said that I will be allowed to hold his penis while he pees, and he offered, I did not even have to ask < smiles> He has also said to expect that he will mark me with his pee. I had a kinky lover into watersports so have been peed on before. I found it erotic in a weird sort of way . I am excited that Master will do that to me, I want to be marked as his property, to know his scent.

OMG you like to watch him pee too??? I LOVE it. J doesn't get my obsession with his cock in general. But I don't have one, and I have like, 20 years of ignorance to make up for! haha.

I can't give insight into the watersports thing, I don't have an opinion on it one way or another, but i totally share the fascination with all things penis related. I should ask if he'll let me hold it while he pees :)

I am so glad I'm not alone with my odd penile fascination lol!

OMG sometimes lets me hold it & touch it when he pees. I like that he lets me. it's like a higher level of trust & confidence..or something...

that is so weird I was thinking this the other day...good post!

I have always thought of this as a hard limit actually, but after some thought and a task sent to me by text on Friday perhaps I may consider more in the way of watersports in the future, as I felt very very horny when I had finished the task and was very surprised. I have been asked before if I take "showers" with dominants and being a bit naive asked why? (thinking mmmm shower, soapy etc) lol, and when it was explained to me I admit to being more than a little horrified!! But after my recent experience (it felt so bad and sooooo good at the same time) it is something that, although maybe I am not quite ready for, I will certainly not refuse out of hand in the future.

in answer to this question I will say yes i have wondered on it and pondered it and found i have no ick factor for it..it fascinates me in that ..urine is pure and sterile..tho id never drink it as some do, I do appreciate the warmth and the feeling of the warm stream spilling all over my body. It makes me want to submit ultimatley to the one who does so!! It is in fact a perfect total submission to allow one to debase (for lack of a better word) me in his presence, with him urinating on me!! Although Id get a real thrill from it (and ill lie if you tell him so:) ) I also find it empowering in a fashion because i allowed it!! As to holding it whilst he pees ..well Im there with bells on! (thats a control thing too i think!!)
Moon

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Originally Posted by Bears2009

my interworkings on water sports if we have a long session I will not have the option to go and they will force it out at sometime durring the session and have alot .so if your asking if I like it yes .

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This is a good way to introduce it. And there are many gradations of using urine in play, from simply controlling the act to (insert favorite degrading piss-play act here).

Personally like others that have replied... the actual thought of tasting that which smells so acrid is kinda repugnant along with feeling it on me.... and i used to think that if i were ever to be owned by a Master water sports would be a definate hard limit, but then i met my Lord and honestly the thought of tasting it is still the same as is the thought of having it on me, but the idea begins to sound thuroughly sensual and erotic when i think of it being my Lord's and if it were to please Him so much to do so it is a massive turn on... it also is highly appealing due to the fact of how it would put me in my place.... really reinforce the fact that i am His slave, His possession and nothing more.... and to me it signifies a surrender, a submission to deep that it makes me highly aroused.... and there is my 2 cents on this topic

omg, I am so glad this thread got un-buried!!!

I was literally JUST discussing this with my Master, and came on looking for threads on defilement. (what he calls it)

A couple weeks ago, we had a weekend away, and in a spurt of playfulness, he peed on me while we were showering. Just on the hip/legs. I washed it off right away. I was... wowed. I was beyond thought and speech for a moment. And when the shock wore off, I couldn't figure out what I thought. So a couple weeks go by, and I find myself thinking of it at the oddest times and... -shocked face- ... wanting it to happen again.

So I love reading the feedback from everyone about this, especially the WHY they like it. I guess that is why I enjoy it too, but at the same time, these answers seem incomplete for my mind. I don't know what is missing... the humiliation, the ultimate submission, i love the use of the word "marking"!, the sensation... but there is something else. Some unnameable aspect that gets me hot, that makes me want it.

Now Master is planning to start pushing me when it comes to defilement. I must admit, i'm excited for it!

I only started on watersports a couple of years ago. Its not something i do often but i have done it multiple times to humilliate my sub. Its a clear sign of her submission and quite a moment of power for me.

Last i did this i had a shower session with my sub, using a dildo and the showerhead to drive her well past 10 orgasms in a row, finally squirting on my hands and collapsing on the floor. All along interogating her and making her admit to being a filthy little pervert (its her thing).

I figured now that she had admitted to me that i owned her and that she was filthy. I migt aswell do a little chain bondage (pretty much japanese rope bondage but with rather heavy steel chain). If she was indeed so perverted that she just enjoyed that (i told her) "well heres your shower slut" (cue the yellow fountain).

I left her there in her chain harness on the floor, telling her to come and have dinner in 10 minutes (she likes being left after use and i left it open to her to decide on washing or not by not telling her either)

Its not something i have to do but with this particular sub i do enjoy it because i know she reverts back to her usual fairly selfassured self, after our weekends and reminding her of her dirty degrading secrets when shes like that is a little mindgame of ours.

I always thought water sports were a hard limit for me. I still kind of do. But I got to remembering being a little kid, 6? 7?, and me and a friend of mine "shared" the toilet. Me facing the back of the toilet, her the normal way. It was oddly fascinating, and when the stream hit my private area, it felt good. Many years later, I got a similar feeling with a hand-held shower head.

Am I ever glad to see this thread. For me it is a psychological issue of control, making her ask for permission to pee, and watching her struggle to hold on through all sorts of situations. Or perhaps putting her in a public situation where she just has to stay quiet, not squirm or dance around, hold on, and not make a scene. Making her wet herself or knowing she is on the verge of doing so is humiliating for her.

i always thought urine was sterile?

when I first started BDSM, only a year ago, I put pee on the hardlimits list of something I found just "icky" and it was a resounding "Hell NO!!!" for me. I couldnt even think about it. My how things have changed for me.

I havent been peed on. but I have slowly over the past 3 months started in that direction. First having to ask to go pee, then being told to hold it. to peeing in the tub in the shower, to peeing in the tub without the shower...to peeing my panties. I still dont think I could handle drinking it though, but if anyone had told me a year ago, I would be asking to go to the loo in the tub, I would have told them "Hell No".

The more I have done with this the more I have come to think I could handle being peed on. It is a very submissive feeling that I get when I think of Him marking me in that way, it is His, and He marks me as His: I think that is what it has become for me. Another way of Him showing me He owns me.

I am enjoying my journey savoring it like I would the worlds most delicious chocolate. I look forward to learning more about this twisted lifestyle...and me.

I never thought about this until I started exploring things with a dom, but he's rather good at persuading people that they'd enjoy things they thought they wouldn't, it seems. There wasn't any actual pissing on each other, but he made me choose to either hold it or go in the sink in my room. I chose the sink, but because I was naked and him fully clothed (does it for me quite a bit), and him touching my body and making me look into his eyes, I couldn't go. He made me drink more, then fucked me. I was desperate at this point and kept trying to get away, but he fought me, bit me and twisted my arm up, all while pressing on my bladder, and that was one of the hottest experiences I've ever had. Still not sure if that's because of the watersports element or just the D/s-ness (or if watersports is hot because of its D/s connotations, which seems to be implied by a lot of the posts on here). Similar experiences, guys?

Hmmm. Well, there is the deep level of submission, which isn't required for me. There is the "golden shower" turnon, sort of a taboo disgrace. Disgraceful behavior turns me on. He almost made me pee on the side of the road today, in broad daylight. Yeah, baby!
Urine, pee, piss....it all sounds totally ewwww. So does the thought of swallowing cum to many. They would never admit to being secretly jealous of those who do it. I have heard swallowers referred to as nasty bitches and hoes. Sluts.
I have already admitted to being a slut in the past.

The way his hot piss feels as it travels through that wonderful urethra is ..powerful. I get to help sometimes, and I love it. He goes in my mouth sometimes. I don't usually swallow, and am given the choice. I even get to hold his cock as he uses me this way. He is elated that I would do this for him.

His mother is a nurse, so AtM would not be requested, we are both a bit germophobic like Matin. That cock is something that we, as women, don't get to experience. It figures that we are fascinated. Cock has ruled the world over the years. Women have had (and still do) to fight to be equal. Carlin said that war was about who has the biggest missiles
(cocks). It isn't a far reach for me, as a submissive, to want to bathe in what comes out of the cock belonging to the Man who owns me.

Due to technical difficulties, I have to add this in its own post:

It is my understanding that urine is sterile. 85 or more percent wateer, and the rest sediment.

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Originally Posted by roxi.slut

Due to technical difficulties, I have to add this in its own post:

It is my understanding that urine is sterile. 85 or more percent wateer, and the rest sediment.

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Except when the bestower has an infection of the tubes or storage areas "downstream" of the kidneys.

One other concern is drugs, whether prescribed or recreational. Some are eliminated in the same condition they were ingested (or injected) and some have unpleasant by products having been altered by the liver for removal.

Men, for example, might not want to ingest a lot of urine from a woman on estrogen, whether it be birth control or estrogen therapy... and if you're on statins, you want to avoid partaking of anyone who ingests a lot of grapefruit.

N.B. All info regarding pharmaceuticals is from a lay understanding at best.

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Originally Posted by roxi.slut

It isn't a far reach for me, as a submissive, to want to bathe in what comes out of the cock belonging to the Man who owns me.

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It certainly does have a "possessive" aspect to it...part of the appeal, I'd guess.

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That cock is something that we, as women, don't get to experience. It figures that we are fascinated.

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Hmm, never thought about it that way. I can see where it may hold a certain fascination. Almost as if you'd want to be in his shoes so to speak.

I haven't participated in water sports, at least not yet, but I imagine that the idea of "letting go" on my pet would make me feel quite dominant and her submissive.

It's one hard limit I have with my slave. No watersports.

I think my interest in WS started when visiting fem pro domme who did not permit any physical sexual contact, and when i begged for somthing intimate she blindfolded me and i could smell her so close and then i got a face full

talk about shocked! but i loved it and i think that was the start of my journey

Thanks to Ozme for adding that, I was in a huge hurry. I am glad it was clarified!

The ability for me to help my Husband when he is going is a huge honor for me as well, if that makes sense.

I never gave it much thought until my long time girl friend tied me up blind folded and made to clean my own cum out of her. I probably wouldnt have done it if not being suprised by it and now completely turned on to clean her out and do it just about every time.
After doing this for a while graduated to licking her clean after she pees. I dont think I want a full bath but is very much a turn on to me clean her up especially after a long day at work.