A few Qs about 'homemade' bondage

1) Any suggestions on safe, 'everyday' items to use as buttplugs?

2) And as lubricant?

3) Would a pingpong (table tennis) ball with holes punched in and thin rope threaded through it work as a ballgag, as long as I don't bite down really hard?

4) When you use a clit clamp, does it really clamp the clit or just the hood? I've tried with clothespegs but it always seems to slip off the clit and just pinch the hood. Is it too loose, perhaps, or is how I am attaching it wrong ('legs' parallel to my labia)

Hello? Anyone?

buttplug - spend the money, hide it, don't try to use something around the house...it can get lost, and thats an embarassing trip to the ER

lubricant - for what? some body lotions will work, but, once again, I'd suggest buying it and hiding it

ping pong balls - they would work, they are small though, it would depend on the size of the mouth...they aren't strong for any sort of passionate bite

clit clamp - I'm not sure about that, but I'd say clamping the clit isn't something you want to do anyways, it's too sensitive, and you probably want it to stay sensitive, so just clip the labia and open it up

A squash ball works OK, a ping pong ball is useless.

Okay, stupid newb question. If you get some improvised butt plug stuck up there or lost why can't you just poop it out? I mean - and excuse my crude reference - I have taken fairly large dumps, about the size of the biggest item I'd dare stick up my ass. Logic dictates that if you can poop one item out, you should be able to poop out a similar item.

Being entirely useless in sports, I have to ask this: isn't a squash ball somewhat the size of a tennis ball?! And if it's hard enough to withstand bites, how do you poke holes in it?

Lubricant.. for both nether holes, of course.

Many, and I mean many people have written about clamping clits, though.. is it really dangerous?

Ocean - no, I'm pretty sure it gets lost in the intestines, not just barely inside the rectum

kinkst3r - I thought a squash ball was more the size of a racquetball, aren't the games similar? Drills are amazing things ;)

about clit clamping - I'm sure it isn't dangerous for a short term thing, but if it happens repeatedly and for a long duration, I would imaging some of the nerve endings would die, therefore killing some of the sensitivity

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Originally Posted by th3_kinkst3r

...isn't a squash ball somewhat the size of a tennis ball?! And if it's hard enough to withstand bites, how do you poke holes in it?

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1. Same size, more resilience - a ping pong ball crushes like a paper cup.
2. It is bite-resistant, but not steel skewer-resistant. Use an awl.

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Originally Posted by Adamoverjules

Ocean - no, I'm pretty sure it gets lost in the intestines, not just barely inside the rectum

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But things generally flow out of the intestines. I can't envision an object miraculously working against the current of solid fecal matter in order to get deeper.

Ocean - I've wondered that too, but I guess depending on what gets stuck in there it could be dangerous to try to push out. A ping pong ball not as much as another toy with edges or anything. I guess we'll just have to wait to hear from someone who has pooped out a toy :)

Perhaps it would really, really hurt to have to poop past the obstacle stuck in there? I dunno.. :)

I've read in lots of places about olive oil/cooking oil as lubricant, but what I'm wondering is.. how do you -clean- it out of your orifices after using it?

I have no idea what a racquetball is either :D

Back in my sad highschool days in the parents' house, I was afraid to own anything suspicious and tried many "homemade" methods. Here's what doesn't work:
1. Vaseline Intensive Care lotion.
2. Cocoa butter
3. Baby oil (it may be fine for the moment, but your ass feels greasy and disgusting for a really long time afterwards.)
4. Cooking oil (the smell alone kills the mood, and it's an even worse oily feeling than the baby oil.)
5. Water, spit, any combination thereof
6. "Lubricated" condoms. Ouch. It's not enough.

What works:
Actual lube. You don't need to go to a sex shop; you can get KY at any drugstore for like three dollars. It's worth it, believe me, and if you get a small tube and keep it with your tampons, it's not even that suspicious.

I'm not entirely certain, but I think the fact that things get lost up your butt is due to the peristaltic action of your bowel. As the walls expand and contract the object gets caught in the updraft (so to speak) and makes it's way upwards. The harder you try to poop it out, the furthur up it will go. Or maybe it's just one of lifes mysteries :D

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Originally Posted by albear

I'm not entirely certain, but I think the fact that things get lost up your butt is due to the peristaltic action of your bowel. As the walls expand and contract the object gets caught in the updraft (so to speak) and makes it's way upwards. The harder you try to poop it out, the furthur up it will go. Or maybe it's just one of lifes mysteries :D

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Just to be argumentative. What prevents the same process from doing the same to feces?

*cries*

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Originally Posted by whippedcream

t's worth it, believe me, and if you get a small tube and keep it with your tampons, it's not even that suspicious.

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I think even that would raise a few eyebrows.

(hint: I'm male)

:D

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Originally Posted by Ocean_Soul

Just to be argumentative. What prevents the same process from doing the same to feces?

*cries*

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I'd hazard a guess that poo is made heavier and more lubricated by proper bowel hydration. It absorbs water and fibre which weighs it down, and it glides right through. If you lost a foreign object up there, it'd probably make it's way out eventually, but not until after a lot of pain, infection, possibly getting torn up inside. Just my opinion from the peanut gallery of course :p

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Originally Posted by Ocean_Soul

I think even that would raise a few eyebrows.

(hint: I'm male)

:D

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Okay, let's get creative here... perhaps God put empty Aloe Vera bottles on the earth for a reason? (Sidenote, you'd have to wash them out well; aloe is another substance that your ass will not appreciate.)

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Originally Posted by whippedcream

...Here's what doesn't work:
1. Vaseline Intensive Care lotion.
2. Cocoa butter
3. Baby oil
4. Cooking oil
5. Water, spit...
6. "Lubricated" condoms....

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Here's what does, when nothing else is available and you just must:
Vaseline (or other brand) petroleum jelly - but no good with condoms.
Silicone grease (for lubricating rubber industrial "o" rings and gaskets. DO NOT use ordinary grease.
Margarine - but slimy like cooking oil
Unperfumed liquid soap - very easy to wash off!
Unperfumed hair gel
Mouth ulcer cream (but warning! Acts as a topical anaesthetic like "Anal-ese"

I dunno, but I read somewhere that petroleum-based stuff isn't too safe.

And, er, peristalsis kinda makes food go -towards- the rectum? I'm betting more on the injury-before-coming-out hypothesis ;)

Are balls with paint on them safe to put in your mouth btw? Or should I wrap them with something first, like plastic bags? :confused:

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Originally Posted by salpecam

Here's what does, when nothing else is available and you just must:
Vaseline (or other brand) petroleum jelly - but no good with condoms.
Silicone grease (for lubricating rubber industrial "o" rings and gaskets. DO NOT use ordinary grease.
Margarine - but slimy like cooking oil
Unperfumed liquid soap - very easy to wash off!
Unperfumed hair gel
Mouth ulcer cream (but warning! Acts as a topical anaesthetic like "Anal-ese"

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But hair gel is sticky! It seems more like anti-lube. Does that really work?

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Originally Posted by th3_kinkst3r

I dunno, but I read somewhere that petroleum-based stuff isn't too safe.

And, er, peristalsis kinda makes food go -towards- the rectum? I'm betting more on the injury-before-coming-out hypothesis ;)

Are balls with paint on them safe to put in your mouth btw? Or should I wrap them with something first, like plastic bags? :confused:

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Petroleum based lubes melt latex products. Petroleum based lubes also do not dry out. Put together, this means that orifices lubricated with Vaseline will render latex condoms worthless for an unknown period of time afterwards, or until they get a good scrubbing. Actually, that's a bit of a moot point, since I can't really imagine anyone volunteering for the later. Also, since they stay moist, said orifice will feel interesting for the next few days. Other than that, petroleum jelly is in some ways safer than water-based products, since it doesn't cause stomach upset, and is thick enough to stay in place under vigorous use.

I fairly certain that the reason that insertables get stuck is that they're hard and smooth. Feces is mallable, so you're always guranteed to be able to push it in whatever direction you squeeze. A plug isn't, so squeezing it will force it in whatever direction it's tapered in, up usually.

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Originally Posted by albear

I'd hazard a guess that poo is made heavier and more lubricated by proper bowel hydration. It absorbs water and fibre which weighs it down, and it glides right through. If you lost a foreign object up there, it'd probably make it's way out eventually, but not until after a lot of pain, infection, possibly getting torn up inside. Just my opinion from the peanut gallery of course :p

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Hmm, possible.

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Originally Posted by th3_kinkst3r

And, er, peristalsis kinda makes food go -towards- the rectum? I'm betting more on the injury-before-coming-out hypothesis ;)

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Peristalsis does a whole lot of things not limited to the bowel. But if the muscles are contracting to make things move, surely when they "relax" or uncontract they'd create pressure going the other way. We had a member here have an incident with losing something up their butt, and apparantly it was just like something had sucked it up. *shrugs* My two cents anyway :p

How does lube end up causing stomach upset?

Repeating a Q: Are balls with paint on them safe to put in your mouth btw? Or should I wrap them with something first, like plastic bags?

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Originally Posted by th3_kinkst3r

How does lube end up causing stomach upset?

Repeating a Q: Are balls with paint on them safe to put in your mouth btw? Or should I wrap them with something first, like plastic bags?

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A plastic bag is not a good idea, if the bag comes loose and you have a gag of some sort in your mouth you will suck it in when you inhale.

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Originally Posted by th3_kinkst3r

How does lube end up causing stomach upset?

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Water based lubricants almost all contain glycerin. Glycerin happens to be a fairly powerful laxative. I don't think I need continue.

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Repeating a Q: Are balls with paint on them safe to put in your mouth btw? Or should I wrap them with something first, like plastic bags?

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Depends. What kind of paint are you talking about? Latex? Oil? Pastel? What kind of balls? Wood? Tennis?

Oops. When I said plastic bags, I kinda meant cutting the plastic from the bag, and wrapping it around and taping it to the rope at the side securely. I use clingwrap now.. kinda figured that if it was safe enough to wrap your food with, it's safe enough to wrap ballgags with.

What I'm wondering is how the lube you apply to your anus, can get up to your stomach?

How do I find out what kind of paint are on them? :/

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Originally Posted by albear

Peristalsis does a whole lot of things not limited to the bowel. But if the muscles are contracting to make things move, surely when they "relax" or uncontract they'd create pressure going the other way. We had a member here have an incident with losing something up their butt, and apparantly it was just like something had sucked it up. *shrugs* My two cents anyway :p

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Did the member have to go to the doctor to get it removed?

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Originally Posted by th3_kinkst3r

What I'm wondering is how the lube you apply to your anus, can get up to your stomach?

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My guess would be that the chemical is absorbed into your bloodstream (as stuff does up there) and a symptom of it is an upset stomach.

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Originally Posted by Ocean_Soul

Did the member have to go to the doctor to get it removed?

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Indeed. The emergency room, complete with anaethesiologist and humungous bill! I'm not sure if she's still around, or I'd drag up the link to it. Don't want to cause any unnecessary embarrassment :eek:

Gonna tell a lil story about the object in the butt senario. I'm repeating the words of my medic husband here.

The story begins with a person playing with the old fashioned roll-on deodorant. Its inserted in the persons butt and with a sudden clenching of muscle ... oh my, its all the way in.

Now lets look at the shape of said object ..... Its nice and round at the top but the bottom is flat [so the damn thing will stand up] and on occasions larger than the top. Note: this object is a totally different shape to fecal matter when its on its way out. The said object is now stuck and wont come out.

After a while fecal matter builds up around the said object and starts to push it down. But its still the wrong shape and starts to push it to one side. After a while the object can get pushed to a different angle and makes for a VERY uncomfortable afternoon :eek:

The sensible person at this point makes that embarrasing trip to the hospital where they meet a speculum. The not so sensible person for some reason wont go and a lil while later gets a perforated rectum as the fecal matter tries to push the object in the route of least resistance. The wall of your rectum has less resisitance the that damn sphincter muscle.
Note: For females you may also get damage to the vaginal wall if this object decides to perforate in the wrong direction.

So basicly be nice to your butt and use a butt plug. Its what they are designed for.
BTW my hubby knows about all of this cos of a call out he had to a person in a great deal of discomfort. Its better to be embarrased than spend 2 weeks or more in hospital. :)