Gorean Philosophies

[denuseri]

Thanks so much for that goldendawn.

You are very correct, we did want to discuss more than just our own way of doing bdsm and incorperating the philosophies of the books.

As with all philosophies one must be carfeful what they incorperate into thier own lives.

We believe the books and Norman are pretty clear whats acceptable on earth and what is not. One principle from the books we have chosen to emulate is a Gorean respect for the laws of a place. As such we believe one should respect the law. This means one doesnt go about abusing or fully enslaveing anyone, and by enslavement i do mean chattel slavery not the pc bdsm style one that most sane people practice. Additionally we dont believe one should be wantonly cruel or malisious with thier submissive.

TPE is allways a sticky wicket that is all too easily turned from something bueatiful into something ugly. To use somthing from another philosophy: Lets look at Aristotles golden mean. One extreme of TPE would have the submissive in dire straights lacking even the will to think for herself etc, let alone move. The other extreme would be complete and utter freedom or worse the submissive in charge whilst the dom cowers in the oposite extreme. Aristotle said its the middle ground that is best for mankind to follow ergo the "golden mean". Which is what we try to do and what we believe Norman is telling us as human beings is the best way for men and women to exist in harmony.

I am unfortunate in that my first experience with it was allmost my last as it very nearly cost me my life or worse and i am still recovering from it as it was certianly on the far end of the TPE to point of truely being criminal. (i was very lucky to have survived it and be saved by my owner from it)yet becuase my second and current TPE relationship i am in now is a very wonderful one I am very happy. I work , I go to school, I am under his will, yet i am under my own voalition in following his will while out and about. In effect I am allowed to thrive.

I am not saying it is wrong for some people, only that we dont believe the books even remotely promote such a type of total enslavment as especially for people on earth, gorean or otherwise.

One can never warn people enough to be safe and careful in thier dealings. Trust is a vital commodity, especially in bdsm. Too many would be dominants embrace a false sence of sadism to the exclusion of the responsibility that is inhierent with assuming dominion over a submissive.