Quote Originally Posted by grinner666 View Post
I do not know how long the OP has been alive or what she's experienced, but I can tell her from personal memory that Obama's so-called "radical left, socialist" policies and positions would have, only 30 or 35 years ago, been considered centrist-right.

The problem with the right is that every time in the past 50 years that its policies have failed, its excuse has always been, "well, we just never tried a TRULY conservative approach; let's move a little further right," instead of maybe adapting to reality and trying a more centrist approach.

The current policies and beliefs of the mainstream Rethuglican party today would have been, and in fact WERE, dismissed as the rantings of the lunatic fringe as recently as the 1960s. Please remember that the John Birch society, now welcomed on the right, was dismissed during the '60s as an extremist group.

I suggest the OP acquire a little perspective and sense of history before making outrageous claims (or asking outrageous questions that are, in point of fact, outrageous claims) in future.

Wow. So I'm an ignorant person?

In no way shape or form have TRUE Conservatives ever been further to the right" in our history. Progressives throughout the years have gone either further right or further left, but Conservatives have always been slightly right of center. Conservatives base their principles upon the Constitution, which is established firmly, solidly, right of center.

The '60s group that dismissed the John Birch society was also a radical group. The “right” does not welcome the John Birch society BUT the Conservative group does. There are some people who call themselves Conservative without truly knowing what that means. They just jump on the bandwagon, believing, (as you do, which I can only surmise given your reactions to my posts) that it means lower taxes yet embraces Government intervention. Re“thug”licans, as you so quaintly called them, are NOT Conservatives.

When America voted Obama into office, this country wasn't voting to change the Republic. it was voting to change Washington. America wanted the lies, corruption, and childish “but they started it” games to end. Instead most Americans now see that things have only gotten worse and that the “change” the political elite think that the country wanted was a transition to a system based on entitlements and handouts. It is insult upon injury and a testament to just how out of touch with the common man BOTH our political parties have become.

You think I am saying this seems like a sudden hostile takeover. That is NOT what I have been trying to say. This has been coming for a long time and has been moved down the field by BOTH parties–the only real question was which one would put us in the end zone first.

After the signing of the Constitution, Benjamin Franklin was asked by a woman on the street, “What have you given us, sir?”
Franklin responded, “A Republic, if you can keep it.”

A critical moment in history has come; our Republic is in jeopardy, whether everyone wants to acknowledge it or not. The question is – can we keep it?