Ok I have been on this and other sites and have been chastised(not here) when I inadvertantly refered to my self as a master even though I was never trained, nor mentored, nor had a slave. That is basicly why I refer to myself as a Dom and not a master, I have all the tendinsys and desires of what BDSM_Tourguide saids is a master tough I haven't had nor at this time have a slave (not for lack of looking) but becouse I was dresed down by others in this. And no I don't believe that thay were old guard but just ones with more knolage than I had a the time. Been studying a wile, and still learning.