Evolution: Science or Philosophy

[Rhabbi]

The only proponents of ID are the religious. What does that tell us about the theory? Seriously now. If it would be a real theory it would hold water no matter what perspective or prior faith you have. But it doesn't because it makes no claims.

Actually, the first propnents of ID were people who proposed that the Earth was seeded my aliens who are conducting a vast experiemnt. Idiots, to be sure, but not religious.

ID has flaws, the biggest of which is that we have to explain where the designer came from. As science it is acceptable to me only because it shuts up the creationist who want me to believe that the Earth was created in 7 days 5000 yeras ago.

edit: And just to be perfectly clear here. I'm not anti-christian or anti-religious. It's only the magic I question. Christianity and the Bible is and can be a great ethical and moral guide for people. I'm sure it is of the simple reason that so many are christian. I'm convinced that these are the real reasons people turn to the church. I think the hokus pokus and the rituals is just the stage show to keep the 1-minute-atention-span crowd from losing their focus.

Go jesus!

Actually Tom, I never really thought you were anti-christian, though I do appreciate you saying so. Most people who call themselves christaians have no more idea wht the Bible says than a 2 year old child. That is why churches need to use the hocus pokus to keep peoples attention, they do not want them to know the truth.

[TomOfSweden]

Actually, the first propnents of ID were people who proposed that the Earth was seeded my aliens who are conducting a vast experiemnt. Idiots, to be sure, but not religious.

I love Raëlians. They're doing what the Flying spaggheti monster never can.