A plea for guidance

[Logic1]

I hate it when good people can't find the desire to make the most important person in their life happy.

this hits the nail on the head dead on.

[jeanne]

Oh, don't be so hard on him, you guys! At least he tried. And where's the joy for me in submission if I know he's not doing it because HE wants to? For that matter, where's the submission at all in that case? And the submission is the important part for me, not the sensation in and of itself - rather, taking or doing or giving because it pleases HIM for me to do so is where my satisfaction (and orgasms ) exists.

[Rhabbi]

Oh, don't be so hard on him, you guys! At least he tried. And where's the joy for me in submission if I know he's not doing it because HE wants to? For that matter, where's the submission at all in that case? And the submission is the important part for me, not the sensation in and of itself - rather, taking or doing or giving because it pleases HIM for me to do so is where my satisfaction (and orgasms ) exists.

I am glad you see the point of all this j.