christians scare me

[Thorne]

And ironically, the seperation of church and state in England is far more pronounced now than it currently seems in America (though this is merely my personal observation from way over the pond here ). I have heard tales of laws being passed because they satisfy the beliefs of a particular faith (laws against contraception in some states, for example) whereas here that sort of thing would never be allowed to happen.

I've never heard of any states passing laws against contraception and a quick Google search didn't come up with anything about that. In fact, most state governments promote contraception (through the use of condoms, at least) as a means of protecting against the spread of STD's. It is possible that some states have banned DISCUSSION of contraception in public schools, simply because it brings up that awful specter of sex to our wondrously pure children. But I don't believe an actual ban would get past the Supreme Court. At least not as it stands now.

As an aside, I do have my own opinions on the historical imperative of countries formed by revolution...

I think you would be hard pressed to find ANY country that didn't undergo SOME form of revolution in their past. Even when those revolutions fail they tend to have a pronounced influence on the country. Yes, even England.

[John56{vg}]

I've never heard of any states passing laws against contraception and a quick Google search didn't come up with anything about that. In fact, most state governments promote contraception (through the use of condoms, at least) as a means of protecting against the spread of STD's. It is possible that some states have banned DISCUSSION of contraception in public schools, simply because it brings up that awful specter of sex to our wondrously pure children. But I don't believe an actual ban would get past the Supreme Court. At least not as it stands now.



I think you would be hard pressed to find ANY country that didn't undergo SOME form of revolution in their past. Even when those revolutions fail they tend to have a pronounced influence on the country. Yes, even England.

No probably no bans of contraception. But the Abstinence programs spread known misinformation about them. Most tell participants that condoms do not work. And, as I mentioned above, now we have a pronounced increase in STDs for young teens. SARCASM: Another major success for the administration in power and the religious right.

[Moonraker]

I've never heard of any states passing laws against contraception and a quick Google search didn't come up with anything about that.

Contraceptives were illegal in Ireland until 1978 in accordance with a Papal Encyclical, entitled "Humanae Vitae" which banned artificial contraception. “Unnatural” contraception and the promotion of such was illegal and could lead to prosecution under the 1935 Criminal Law (Amendment) Act.

[Thorne]

Contraceptives were illegal in Ireland until 1978 in accordance with a Papal Encyclical, entitled "Humanae Vitae" which banned artificial contraception. “Unnatural” contraception and the promotion of such was illegal and could lead to prosecution under the 1935 Criminal Law (Amendment) Act.

Yeah, I can believe it, but that's not part of the US, which is what I was referring to. Nations, on the other hand, HAVE, and some still DO, criminalize contraception. But I would be willing to bet that in every case there is a religious proscription behind the law, as in the Encyclical you mention.

[mkemse]

I've never heard of any states passing laws against contraception and a quick Google search didn't come up with anything about that. In fact, most state governments promote contraception (through the use of condoms, at least) as a means of protecting against the spread of STD's. It is possible that some states have banned DISCUSSION of contraception in public schools, simply because it brings up that awful specter of sex to our wondrously pure children. But I don't believe an actual ban would get past the Supreme Court. At least not as it stands now.



I think you would be hard pressed to find ANY country that didn't undergo SOME form of revolution in their past. Even when those revolutions fail they tend to have a pronounced influence on the country. Yes, even England.

Thorne,

I agree, I beleve it was a mandate by the Church and not a State Laws to prohibit Condom use, please correct me if i am wrong

[Thorne]

Thorne,

I agree, I beleve it was a mandate by the Church and not a State Laws to prohibit Condom use, please correct me if i am wrong

I haven't done much research on this, so I'm mostly doing some guesswork here, but I would venture to say that any laws restricting the use of condoms were instigated by church mandates.