No offense taken Veralynne...that's why I opened the thread, . On this, I admit, I am the odd one out, LOL, but while I do know and get rape fantasies intellectually, I never had any. Its a long story, but they hold no appeal to me. Also breath play, not my thing, I cant stand people touching, let alone choking my neck.

Why I cant see it? Its rarely talked about openly (I did a search and couldn't find a thread dealing with it here, and nothing on Google either, unless you count what fetishdy mentioned about tobacco, LOL). Much like SauvagePouline I always thought its purely fantasy, and an extreme one for the rare few.

For me there is nothing romantic about death, (again, the same long story, lol). It is a fact of life, it serves a purpose.

I do understand what Arria means about ultimate submission and what people see in breath play/choking...why they find it enjoyable physically and why mentally (placing your life into the hands of another and toying with it...). I have no fantasy nor desire for it, but I can understand it (as much as anyone who isnt into something can understand it, lol).

As for snuff...its death. As you say its permanent.

I am of the firm belief that fantasies are a healthy outlet. And there is no reason why we should not fantasize about things we have no intention to realize. So I have nothing against that, and that's why I asked what people find appealing about it.

The reason why I posted this question and what got me thinking is that in the relatively short time, I have been contacted by two different subs who both said that (it is not so much as fantasy of theirs as) they are prepared to do it if their dom/me asks for it and that they would welcome it. IMO they had a poor grasp on SSC, and it got me concerned for their safety and upset...my Dom friend said that they were most probably just messing with my head and making things up...it is certainly possible, especially for one, but the other I think, really meant it...and that got me thinking...

Big thanks to everyone for their response. I hope people continue posting, as this has turned into a rather interesting (and educational) thread.