Quote Originally Posted by MMI View Post
The only law they broke was entering your country without permission.
At least you admit that they have broken the law. That's a step in the right direction, I suppose.

Twice? I think you might find the Canadians would have something to say about that ... for us, both wars were a distraction ... a side show. The real wars were being fought elsewhere.
Perhaps you're forgetting the war of 1812? The one that ended in 1814? Shortly before the British got their butts handed to them at New Orleans? They even wrote a song about it!

But I'm interested in what you say about treason (it was treason in the colonies, by the way, not just in England).
Only until the British surrendered.

You say, while the rebellion was a criminal act in England, the cause was just. While I cannot accept a land-grab by wealthy settlers interested in trading with the enemy is ever just,
It was just because they won. If they'd lost they would have been hanged as traitors. And that would have been just, too.

it intrrigues me that Americans, by your own words, can break the law when they feel it is justifiable, yet will not accept that a bad American law can be sidestepped
So are you implying that the illegal immigrants should unite and form a rebellion? Wouldn't that be a land-grab by poor criminals? Wouldn't that make them traitors?

Or perhaps you are just saying that any 'bad' law can be ignored, sidestepped if you will. But then, who decides what's a bad law? If I believe that the laws against murder are 'bad' laws, does that mean I can ignore them? I could just head on down to the border and open fire indiscriminately. Because the law against that is a 'bad' law!

No, I don't think that would work. We must have laws, or we'll all suffer. And if we don't like a law we must change it, not ignore it. The law can be changed from within, legally, through due process, or it can be changed illegally, from without, through rebellion. But if you go that route you must be prepared to set up your own government, with your own laws. And I can guarantee that those laws will provide for some kind of defense against cross-border incursions by foreign nationals. After all, you wouldn't want some lazy johnny-come-latelys to take back all that you stole in the first place, would you?