Male discrimination?

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The point of this thread, when it started, was to discuss the possibility that there exists male discrimination. At the end of the day, our society is structured in such a way that female imperatives are valued greater than male equivalents. Feminism may have started with women’s suffrage, but it has grown to a political and societal agenda that does not seek equal treatment, but preferential treatment.

1. “Women like sports just as men” leads to Title IX, which has resulted in cutting many MENS sports program throughout the country both at the high school and college level.

Was that to make room for women? In that case, don't you think it is fair to share the time?

2. 98% of alimony payments are from men to women though 40% of women outearn men,

I am surprised about the 40 %, but if true, surely that is wrong.


90% of mothers get sole custody of the children after a divorce,

Also wrong, although in many many cases the women are the ones looking after the kids, as you have made very clear.

75% of women initiate divorce – the courts are fully stacked against men

I do not see that the fact that many more women than men initiate divorce is a sign of discrimination againts men - what do you mean here?


3. Despite men being the victim of violence three times as often as women, there is no Violence Against Men Act.


I am surprised at those numbers, unless they also contain men against men as Lucy said, in which case it can hardly be said to be a discrimination, any more than violence by women against women.

4. Despite the majority of jobs lost during the crash in 07-08, the stimulus plan was heavily skewered towards female dominated fields

If the situation was like in Europe, that would be because of the fact that women were worst hit in the first place - part time workers, you know.

5. Despite women earning the majority of college degrees and high school, yet classroom policies and federal spending favor women’s education.

How?

6. Despite women living longer, government spending on healthcare favors women.

How?

7. Women can choose to keep or abort a pregnancy, but men have no say in the matter whatsoever, despite having steep implications. Legally forfeited paternity laws have been consistently struck down.

That is indeed a complicated problem!

8. Women want equality in the workplace, yet they are also entitled to maternity leave

A country needs new generations.

9. Women want the same privileges as men, but not the responsibilities – women may serve in the military but do not register for selective service, and before a unit is deployed, there is a considerable increase in the amount of females who become pregnant and are pardoned from deployment.

What is selective service?

10. Many states have or are legislating for mandatory arrest laws which almost always result in men being jailed, despite physical abuse levels being nearly identical.


There is a problem with violence towards men, not easily solved. But you make so much of the physical difference - how can so many women beat up the much stronger men??


Think about a few situations for a minute.

1. When a girl hits a man, it’s cute or funny, excuses are made for negative behavior. When a man strikes a woman, it’s assault.

I agree with you here, absolutely.

2. A woman can say in public “women are smarter than men” and it’s empowering, a man saying the opposite is a misogynist.

You have a point here as well.

3. Men’s Right’s Groups are considered “extremists” by the Southern Poverty Law Center, while feminist movements are pandered to by politicians.

That I do not know about.

Women went from the PROTECTED SEX, that’s right, not abused,

I am sure women were protected to some extent, some classes of women anyway, but also without much influence. But do you seriously mean to say that no women are abused??


to equal, but they retain permission to switch back to defenseless at anytime they wish.


I think there is something in this, and that is not right. Equal rights, equal responsibilities.

In short, the average American woman wants to be fiercely independent, but men are still expected to be chivalrous.


Well, not here anyway, I can assure you no men in DK know the meaning of the word ;-)
Women are not so fiercely independant, it is more kind of normal.

That is all I am going to say, you see that the deck is stacked against men, or you don't.

There are definitly some areas, like with children especially, same conditions here, and it isn't right. Also the weirdly bigger tolerance towards women's behavour in some situations, frankly I do not understand it at all.
But the rest I admit I cannot see.