Quote Originally Posted by thir View Post
Complex question, I think. Maybe that depends on the person. Of course, the ethical answer is no good sadist gets pleasure from an unwilling person, but is that merely political correctness? Is the answer a little more complicated? Many people have fantasies - maybe masturbation fantasies, but nevertheless - about non-consensual sessions, which migt also include pain.
I agree with you in everything. I have masochist fantasies where i am accused in a shop with theft. Security guards torture me until i admit the crime, and after that they punish me painfully and shamefully in front of all customers. Shop assistants and customers accompany them in torturing me. It would be a crime in real life, but i love these fantasies.