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Curtis and I were discussing urine the other day - yes, really. He pointed out something interesting that I'd never given much thought to before - women tend to say pee, while men say piss.
It's interesting isn't it how subtle differences in the vernacular can change the entire tone and feel of a story.
It's like one I read the other day where the master repeatedly referred to his fellow dominant friends as 'guys' and 'you guys', for me, that just broken the whole feeling of dominance.
Alex.
Oooh, you pair of old romantics!! LOLQuote:
Originally posted by Alex Bragi
Curtis and I were discussing urine the other day
You're right though, the vernacular can change the whole tone of any piece of writing, i'm not sure i agree with that specific example though (the 'guys' thing), depends on how exactly it was used i suppose.
Oh, i personally don't say pee or piss, but then i don't have much call to (when IS there call to say it?!?!).
sl
"I gotta go take a piss"
"piss off"
just to name a couple..alright I know the second one was a different meaning..but whatever
sometimes you just gotta let people know your intentions!
Yeah, lucy, Alex and I are a couple of suave and classy fellows. Urine and Mayan are two of our favorite topics of conversation.
I would like to take this oppourtunity to thank Alex for spelling my name correctly. You go, guy!
Hmmm, ok, 'piss off' i accept...but there would be about as much chance of me saying 'i gotta go take a piss' as there would be of me saying 'i've had a change of heart, i want to be the Dom'!! (i.e. no chance at all :D)Quote:
Originally posted by fetish101
"I gotta go take a piss"
"piss off"
just to name a couple..alright I know the second one was a different meaning..but whatever
sometimes you just gotta let people know your intentions!
sl
Peeing vs. pissing ... hmmm
Well, one can always make this into a pissing contest, but that would imply one side does not have a pot to pee in ...
I can't say that I agree with Curtis' different usage by sex ... I have male friends who have used both terms, I'm more inclined to agree with slavelucy (and not just because she is a soccer fan) ....
Real men don't say they have to take a pee or a piss.
They just do it.
:D
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..., i'm not sure i agree with that specific example though (the 'guys' thing), depends on how exactly it was used i suppose.
Yes, I think too it depends on the person reading it. I have a friend – he’s English – he gets totally turned off by the word ‘knickers’. He says when he reads or hears the word he conjures up ugly thoughts of big baggy bloomers. Now, when I think of knickers, I think of sexy lace that barley covers your ass.
fetish101 – Yep here in Australia it’s used in heaps of slang, although again usually by men only. E.g. Piss up – drink a lot of beer. Get pissed – to get really drunk. A pisser – something in poor taste (like this thread *gg* ).
Oh yea. Well, ha ha, I would just like to take this opportunity to say – sticks and stones will break my bones but chains will always excite me! *gg*Quote:
I would like to take this opportunity to thank Alex for spelling my name correctly. You go, guy!
And Fox, you're posts always put a smile on my face.
Geez!
If I have to tell someone for whatever reason, I say, "I have to use the bathroom."
I don't go into detail.
Calls himself an Englishman, but he get turned OFF by the word 'knickers'? Pah!!!;)Quote:
I have a friend – he’s English – he gets totally turned off by the word ‘knickers’.
I am an Englishman and the word 'knickers', to me, is more of a mild colloquial curse; not really an erotic word. Why, do you find it erotic?
knickers 1. loosely fitting short breeches gathered in at the knee. 2. a bloomerlike undergarment worn by women
There is no third definition in Webster's. The first definition should sound familiar, because they're also known as golfing pants (and were part of the first baseball uniforms; you knew that was coming). The second is one of the least sexy articles of underclothing ever invented.
'knickers' is short for 'knickerbockers', who were the descendants of the original Dutch settlers of New York. I can only presume that the Dutch wore pants like that in the 1600s.
Yeah, "pee" vs "piss" does have a big impact on tone now that you mention it. Pee just makes it sound like good dirty fun, while piss is better for making it sound flat-out nasty.
I say both. It depends on my mood really.
However, I remember telling TG that I was "pissed" and he thought angry...but I really meant drunk. He had never heard that term used in that sense before.
Isn't there a British slang term, "taking the piss"? (Making fun of someone.)Quote:
Originally Posted by Alex Bragi
hmm..I gotta say I disagree with ya there. Whenever I've been out to the bar with the guys it's always been the norm to just say something like "gotta take a piss" when you get up and leave for the washroom. If ladies were around, you don't say anything..but when it's just the guys, well, it's just being guys.Quote:
Originally Posted by Fox
And as for a guy using "pee"........I don't know about that. That sounds pretty feminine to me. If one of my friends got up from the table and suddenly said "gotta go pee" I'm pretty sure we'd beat him up.
:eek: That's amazing! Where is he from? It's pretty common usage here in Australia.Quote:
Originally Posted by Finding_Fantasy
Knickers is pronounced would be pronounced with a K, k-nickers in Dutch. However I speak Dutch and have never heard knickers in contemprary use and my wife (ex- sort of) who is Dutch and only heard the word when she moved to England and thought it a comical sounding. I used to have old soccer programmes from the fifties and soccer shorts were described as knicker in them.Quote:
Originally Posted by Curtis
And in the category of "If it's good enough for God..." :D
This scripture from the King James Version of the Bible is interesting (I don't have one in front of me, so I can't for sure say where it is at, the Book of Ecclesiastes comes to mind, but it may be elsewhere):
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They shall drink their own piss and eat their own dung.
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Originally Posted by azraelle
Well, I never knew that. I mean I never learnt that verse in Sunday school, let me tell you!
I think there are references to masturbation in the bible somewhere also. Abraham, I think, 'spilling his seed on the ground', and I have a feeling he that also 'knew his daughters' at some stage too.
Come to think of it, the bible contains all kinds of stories about incest rape, sex, and murder. Little wonder it's the world most read book.
;)
I personally like: Go to the restroom.
BUT
Here are a couple of others :)
bleed the liver; burn the grass; do number one; drain; drain the lizard; drain the radiator; drain the snake; drain the suds; kill a snake; kill a tree; lag; lant; leak; let fly; make; make water; nature stop; pass water; pee; pee-pee; pick a daisy; piddle; piss; point percy at the porcelain; pump ship; rack off; run off; shake a sock; shake hands with an old friend; shake the dew off the lily; slack; splash; spring a leak; squeeze the lemon; squirt; strain one's taters; syphon the python; take a leak; take a piss; take your snake for a gallop; tinkle; toy-toy; train terrence on the terra cotta; visit miss murphy; void; water the dragon; water the horses; wee; wee-wee; wet; whiz; wring out a kidney; wring the dew off the branch; wring your sock out
Not to mention
going to the necessary room.
Yeah, there is, we say 'piss off' quite a lot...it's stronger than sod off but weaker than fuck off.Quote:
Originally Posted by rlsk
As for the whole toilet issue, personally i'd just say i was going to the loo...how very British of me! :D
sl
Don't know about the Brits but the expression is very frequently used in Australia as is "Pissed off" and "Pissed" means drunk here not angry as it seems to mean in the USA.Quote:
Originally Posted by rlsk
What about "Point Percy at the Porcelain"
that's go and have a wee :D porcelain being the loo and percy being... well... do i need to spell it out :rolleyes:
We have to agree with that. We would never use "piss" in a story of ours, we would always use "pee".Quote:
Originally Posted by Alex Bragi
This is a really interesting and informative thread for me. :)
In my own story, I've been rather sloppy so far in my use of different words for urine so far, but now that I think about it, my female characters usually say 'pee' and my male characters say 'piss' (I use a variety of words for both the substance and the activity in the non-dialogue parts). I should probably be a bit more rigorous about that in the future installments.
The collection of slang for urinating will also be helpful (though not as much, since that list is pretty male-oriented :)).