I saw a video clip and was wondering what the temperature under the mousse would be. Anyone know of a way to test it before I apply it to skin?
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I saw a video clip and was wondering what the temperature under the mousse would be. Anyone know of a way to test it before I apply it to skin?
I would bet that it is burning under it too the only way to find out is to repeat this on say something curved the way a body is and once the test is over scrap off the mousse and see if it has left a burn.
no idea how you would test it ID, but what a cool idea, just think of the fun!! *s*
Put some on plastic food wrap and see if it shrivels under the heat. If it does it would probably burn the skin. I would make sure the wrap was over an open space like a cup or bowl so there is nothing acting like a heat sink under it and the true heat would be shown by the wrap itself.
did you get round to trying this?
we have actually used mousse a few times in fireplay and its pretty good, it doesnt get as hot as when using flash sticks or cups (playing with fire is NOT for pain) and most people would recommend beginning with mousse, the good thing about it is you can leave it burning as it generally dies itsself out in seconds before it has chance to really heat up and leaves more of a chilling sensation than heat.
the best mousse we found was actually boots superstores own brand its not got too much water in ,(make sure you use a water based mousse) if the mousse you have is of a pretty tacky/sticky texture then bin it or just stick it on your head lol its loaded with dodgy chemicals and doesnt even burn half the time anyway.
the best area to try it is on the back or the stomach,unless you have hair free hands arms or thighs ,you need somewhere thats hairfree for obvious reasons and make sure you're not wearing any scent, hairsprays and any long hair is tied back or kept well clear etc
A fireplay expert on MDS has been doing experiments, I was awaiting her results before trying it.
You say you've tried it? Would you mind posting a clip somewhere on the net for us to view?
awesome information icey hun and as usual your experience has given some valuable insight into another queryQuote:
Originally Posted by icey
ID - I think she's done a very concise job of explaining and wonder what you hope a clip would do that her explanation hasn't? Wouldn't all that show is a bare back or belly, spraying on the mousse and lighting it?? I would think further 'technical' questions might serve a better purpose such as:
Do you put it in an open circle like the original video or can you put it in a completely filled in circle? How long do you estimate that it actual burns for? Is there any sensation at all to the wearer or is it just more for a cool 'looking' effect? How many times have you tried it and have you had any bad experiences with it?
Just a thought
all i have is 1 pic left with a small round flame, which you can barely see cause of the flash but i can post it if you like...does it need to be in the erotic pics section or can i post it in here?Quote:
Originally Posted by IDCrewDawg
we had hundreds of pics which are now lost on Icehawks dead pc which is bloody frustrating and there are a few members here who i think can vouch for me if you're unsure of anything i might have to say.
i hope i havnt given the wrong impression,i certainly dont consider myself an expert but i would NEVER EVER suggest or share (which is all i was doing) anything regarding any form of play particularly something that can be potentially dangerous if i hadnt practiced it and researched enough to have some idea of what im talking about.
A small clip would answer many of the questions you asked, as well as add details someone may forget to add. How high is the foam circle, how large/small, how long does the flame burn....Quote:
Originally Posted by mastersgem
Icey, I don't doubt you, thats why I asked if you would mind posting something. It's really something I want to do, and hearing from people that have done it reassures me that I won't be hurting my submissive in a bad way.Quote:
Originally Posted by icey
Normally I wouldn't ask for someone to post a video or picture, but this is something unusual that I haven't seen anywhere else, and was just wanting to see any different techniques than what may have been in the video as a college experiment.
i think sometimes i tend to come across as a bit of a know all eeks and i really dont mean to i just like to share things and am nosey and like to know what others get up to and think lolQuote:
Originally Posted by mastersgem
as im a bit of a worrier it makes me nervous so i am a bit hesitant now lol but here goes i'll try and answer carefully.
you can put the mousse in any pattern you want in just about any area , if you use a 'blob' then just a small amout about the amount you would squirt in your hand to use on your hair is generally fine,
if you are creating a pattern then you use a lesser amount,enough to burn the mousse out but not too thinly spread that it will burn right down to the skin immediatley its lit.
not internally or on the face,under arms or neck or anywhere moist my personal preference is the back and stomach....again as i said dont wear scent,make up,hairsparay,keep all areas hair free and clean,no jewellery... metal burns and plastic melts!!
dont use on any open wounds,reddened,bruised areas.
no ropes,chains etc.keep the sub/bottom totally naked
it sounds pretty clinical and a hell of a lot of do's and dont's but if its going to be clinical then much better in the dungeon than A&E ;)
just all the common sense stuff,have a damp towel and water close to hand.
make sure any area you are playing in is not flammable..eg the bed is not a good idea.nor is a metal table of any description it may overheat if anything were to go wrong.
we've done it on a good few occasions using various methods,cups,flash sticks, indoor sparklers one thing i would say,is i noticed the video said use one with alcohol which is correct BUT never whatever the method of fireplay use anything with an alcohol content over 70/%. and look out for chemicals and water content compare different brands to get an idea you want one thats sort of inbetween,its mostly trial and error as to which mousses are suitable unfortunately theres no exact science to it all brands and contents are different and dont opt for coloured/tinted mousses
that is way too flammable will certainly overheat and could end up with some nasty burns.
fire play isnt for pain play its mostly used for sensation play,the aeshthetics and sometimes fear ...you can get some amazing and pretty startling effects.
the sensations are of some mild heat followed by a tingly chilling feeling as it dies out.
the flame will travel upwards following the pattern and will slowly burn itsself out as it moves along, its usually recommended that top should keep his hand close by (not too close) following the pattern/flame,.
feeling some warmth/heat is good but as with the minute you feel any actual burning however slight STOP using the damp towel,the skin as with waxing although not to quite the same degre will continue to heat for a few seconds longer.
mostly you will find that the mousse will burn ittself out within seconds which is how it should work unless you want to take real risks!,if it doesnt and you need to extinguish it then you know next time to use a little less....trial and error'
let the top test it in a very small area before testing on the bottom,then start off very slowly concentrating on small areas and try to avoid using elaborate patterns or covering large areas no matter how tempting it may seem,as with anything build it up slowly there's no rush and the more experience you can gain the better.
then the fun really begins ...use your imagination and get creative :P
clean the areas and apply anteseptic or soothing creams afterwards.
again i want to say im NOT an expert and am certainly not 'instructing' the only thing i am going by is from speaking and learning from someone we were very lucky to meet who gave us her time and gives some very good demo classes and who is what you might even call an expert in this area ,(ive forgotten her name :rolleyes:)and from our own experiences.
the only bad experience we've had with it is that pictures never seem to turn out lol
if you go ahead with it i hope you both enjoy it,we always have done :)
Great post!! Thanks for the detail! I plan on attempting it soon, just have to get some supplies, and an evening that I don't need to worry about interruptions.