Metal Whips

Tonight F. and I were passing by the friendly neighborhood sex shop and we saw a gorgeous flogger made of 20-24 very light aluminum chains, about 18 inches long. I asked the store clerk if it was for real and she said that yes, some people actually use them on their slaves.

I looked at F. begging him with my eyes to ask the saleslady if he could take a couple of practice swings at me there in the store just to try it but he wussed out.

I had never seen anything like that and I think it would be a great birthday gift (mine or his, it does not matter, I am the one who is going to get a birthday flogging), but I am very curious to find out if anyone in this forum had ever experienced giving or receiving a whipping with such an implement.

It looks pretty innocent but even light metal is not very forgiving. I am a bit of a painslut and can take some harsh beatings but I still would like to know what I am getting into, so your feedback would be appreciated.

The one we had wasn't made of metal, but it had heavy, pointed metal weights on the ends of each of the leather straps that made up the flogger.

I tell you what, FF invented new ways to avoid floggings from that thing.

Too bad it's stuck in Texas with the rest of my fun stuff.

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Originally Posted by BDSM_Tourguide

The one we had wasn't made of metal, but it had heavy, pointed metal weights on the ends of each of the leather straps that made up the flogger.

I tell you what, FF invented new ways to avoid floggings from that thing.

Too bad it's stuck in Texas with the rest of my fun stuff.

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What's with all this "stuck in texas stuff"? Can't you just have it sent up?

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Originally Posted by fetish101

What's with all this "stuck in texas stuff"? Can't you just have it sent up?

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Because you can't import sex toys into Canada. Customs tends to keep them.

Yeah the kinky sick bastards! I don't even want to know what they do with them when they snatch them! ;)

As for that flogger. I hated that thing!

huh..who knew.

So I guess they all confiscate the excess booze, the illegal drugs, sex toys and have a huge kinky custom officer's party after hours. And to think they come off as the dead serious stiffs on duty...

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Originally Posted by fetish101

huh..who knew.

So I guess they all confiscate the excess booze, the illegal drugs, sex toys and have a huge kinky custom officer's party after hours. And to think they come off as the dead serious stiffs on duty...

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:D LOL

Very much off topic: has anyone seen Ali G Inthahouse? There's a scene where he 'inspects' some of the things confiscated by English customs, namely weed and German harcore pornography... Very funny.

Tourguide, can you buy toys in Canada?
Barton.

We can buy them in Canada, Barton, but the problem is that nearest store is about 3 hours from here (one that we know of anyway). Plus, there is about $2,000 worth of stuff in those boxes in Texas...which is what really gets us and some of it we never even had the opportunity to use.

That flogger that you mentioned, sounds pretty nasty, Jone, Nikka. Not something that I would want to be used on me if I could avoid it.

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Originally Posted by Finding_Fantasy

That flogger that you mentioned, sounds pretty nasty, Jone, Nikka. Not something that I would want to be used on me if I could avoid it.

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I know, F_F, the more I think about it the more scared -and excited I get.

My only previous experience with anything metallic was when I read "The Prussian Girls" and decided I wanted to try a whipping with a birch switch wrapped in copper wire like the one in the book.
I do not know if it hurt so badly because of the wire, (there were a few very thin cuts), but I was glad I had been very well tied to the bed and had a very thick gag in my mouth. Still, it was the kind of fun we now reserve for very special occasions.

Knowing F, I say he is going to make me try that metal flogger sooner or later.

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Originally Posted by Finding_Fantasy

We can buy them in Canada, Barton, but the problem is that nearest store is about 3 hours from here (one that we know of anyway). Plus, there is about $2,000 worth of stuff in those boxes in Texas...which is what really gets us and some of it we never even had the opportunity to use.

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Finding Fantasy, I don't know if you have thought of it , but would'nt you be able to ship your stuff to yourself via a private carrier. Perhaps UPS, Airborne, or even FedEx. Maybe customs does not check for those kind of items. Just a thought.
Barton.

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Originally Posted by Barton

Finding Fantasy, I don't know if you have thought of it , but would'nt you be able to ship your stuff to yourself via a private carrier. Perhaps UPS, Airborne, or even FedEx. Maybe customs does not check for those kind of items. Just a thought.
Barton.

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Actually, customs does. They're require the contents of the boxes being shipped to have a manifest label as well, meaning that legal compliance would require them to declare boldly on the shipping label that they're shyipping whips and dildos...

Not sure how your customs works, but perhaps you could find something innocuous to declare it as? Like, say it's a box of tree-branches and sausages? The X-Rays won't be able to tell the difference! :D

On, and that Ali G thing is gold! I love the one where he has all the confiscated weapons, and he's asking the police guy how much they cost... ;)
LD

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Originally Posted by fetish101

So I guess they all confiscate the excess booze, the illegal drugs, sex toys and have a huge kinky custom officer's party after hours....

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Um..i'm in the wrong job!!

To get back to the original point, no Nikka, i have never used a metal whip, i'd concur with FF, it sounds evil!! i would be really interested to know what it was like tho, so please please let us know how it goes, when F uses it. :D

sl

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Originally Posted by Lord Douche

Not sure how your customs works, but perhaps you could find something innocuous to declare it as? Like, say it's a box of tree-branches and sausages? The X-Rays won't be able to tell the difference! :D

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It's not just X rays, LD. They acrually open the boxes at customs. I have received a few boxes of other stuff from TG's mom and they always have this tape used to reclose the box that says "opened by customs"

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Originally Posted by GaryWilcox

Actually, customs does. They're require the contents of the boxes being shipped to have a manifest label as well, meaning that legal compliance would require them to declare boldly on the shipping label that they're shyipping whips and dildos...

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You are right Gary. They do make you list everything that is in the box. And if they are ever in slightest bit of doubt that what you say on the label is in there. They will open it and ispect every inch of it.

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Originally Posted by Jones, Nikka

I know, F_F, the more I think about it the more scared -and excited I get.

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See I'd just be scared LOL. That is not the type of pain that I am into. Though I like leather floggers and the rubber kind. Though that flogger might be a bit heavy for me to handle. I am not much into pain. I will stick to hot candle wax thank you. ;)

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Originally Posted by Jones, Nikka

and decided I wanted to try a whipping with a birch switch wrapped in copper wire

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See...ouch! Though the majority of the pain was probably from the copper wire. At least in my experience. I have been whipped with a birch branch when I was a kid. Not in an SM way but in a bully of an older brother sort of way across the back of my thighs in the summer time. It stung and left a few welts, but the sting went away after a few minutes. Kind of like being snapped with a towel.

Since you don't seem to be getting much guidance, I'll just put my uneducated two cents in.

It's my belief that as long as he doesn't break the skin, all you have to worry about is the pain, BUT if you get cut, it's likely to be jagged and uneven and more likely to get infected than a more simple cut.

Just a guess, though.

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Originally Posted by BDSM_Tourguide

Because you can't import sex toys into Canada. Customs tends to keep them.

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Hello there -- out of curiosity, have you (or anyone else) had any experience with Customs seizing items?

There have been a number of books I've considered having shipped up here (i.e. from retailers as innocuous as the American version of Amazon, if the .ca version doesn't carry it) but I'm a little hesitant. Will Customs return the goods to the shipper if they disallow it (i.e. for a refund)? Or does it fall into this black hole? And at that, one that you're paying for... :)

I do know that Canadian Customs had a thing for gay and lesbian content -- especially gay and lesbian S&M -- for a while (i.e. until the Little Sisters book shop in B.C. took them to court) and they've had to relax it a bit since then. Anyway... I was just curious if anyone has experience with seized goods and what happened...
g.

at the border and an hotty walks up to your both:

"Do you have anything to declare?"

"Why no, I do not declare anything.

"Well we will see"

And the guard opens her suitcase only to find a vibrating Dildo. :eek:

"We need to see if this is a vibrator or an explosive device"
"Please turn it one and show me how it works"

She says "In my hands it is an explosive device but I am the one to explode"

She goes on to demonstrate the vibrator...

Any one care to finish ? I have to go to work.

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Originally Posted by Mobius

at the border and an hotty walks up to your both:

"Do you have anything to declare?"

"Why no, I do not declare anything.

"Well we will see"

And the guard opens her suitcase only to find a vibrating Dildo. :eek:

"We need to see if this is a vibrator or an explosive device"
"Please turn it one and show me how it works"

She says "In my hands it is an explosive device but I am the one to explode"

She goes on to demonstrate the vibrator...

Any one care to finish ? I have to go to work.

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lol...oh man. That sounded like the perfect porno flick storyboard. Where the hottie walks up to the guy, there's a few cheesy lines thrown back and forth and 30 seconds later they're doing the nasty in 15 different positions.

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Originally Posted by Curtis

Since you don't seem to be getting much guidance, I'll just put my uneducated two cents in.

It's my belief that as long as he doesn't break the skin, all you have to worry about is the pain, BUT if you get cut, it's likely to be jagged and uneven and more likely to get infected than a more simple cut.

Just a guess, though.

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If the strands are braided or even if they are like strands of wire it should leave a fairly clean cut in the skin. More than likely it will cause a split in the skin if used too vigorously. The danger of infection is very real however, metal is notorious for its ability to cause infection when it causes a cut. Also be aware that all metal corrodes, even aluminum ( it oxidizes), this can cause much stinging and will greatly increase the chance of infection. If you do use this toy you might want to sterilize it before use.
I do not cite medical expertise as I am not a doctor. However I have been a carpenter most of my life and have seen on many job sites what can happen when a cut is caused by any metal. Careful Nikka.
Barton.

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Originally Posted by Curtis

It's my belief that as long as he doesn't break the skin, all you have to worry about is the pain, BUT if you get cut, it's likely to be jagged and uneven and more likely to get infected than a more simple cut.

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Originally Posted by Barton

If the strands are braided or even if they are like strands of wire it should leave a fairly clean cut in the skin. More than likely it will cause a split in the skin if used too vigorously. The danger of infection is very real however, metal is notorious for its ability to cause infection when it causes a cut. Also be aware that all metal corrodes, even aluminum ( it oxidizes), this can cause much stinging and will greatly increase the chance of infection. If you do use this toy you might want to sterilize it before use. Careful Nikka.
Barton.

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Thanks for your imput, Curtis and Barton. The flogger in question is made of very small, round chainlinks so I am hoping there will be more bruises than cuts and F. is smart enough not to use it on unpadded body parts. He told me last night that it would be my birthday present, so I know what is comming. He loves the idea of making me wait for severe sessions like that. Knowing me, I will be so hot by then I will not feel a thing... or so I like to think.

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Originally Posted by gerund

Hello there -- out of curiosity, have you (or anyone else) had any experience with Customs seizing items?

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I haven't had any adult items seized, but my mother in law tried to ship up some food and some of it was siezed at customs.

I don't think that you should have a problem with books, unless they are expressly pornographic. I mean if you try to bring a book like say, The Story of O or something like that across the border, I don't think that they would seize something like that.

Nikka, if the chain is what I am thinking, I don't think that it should cut your skin. Maybe bruise it a little, but I think you should be safe from cuts.

Hello all;
I am rather new to this forum (well, new to online actually) but thought I should like to offer some comments/questions.

Firstly, I wanted to ask of exactly what sort of chain the floggger was made? Is it actual round chain? or the ball-chain links? I have seen both in the scene, but really can only speak from experience with regards to the latter.

We purchased a chain flogger of the ball-chain variety almost 4 years ago and it is still in regular use. It gives a pretty hard pounding and the tips of those balls can really sting but in all honesty, a braided flogger or one with those sharp metal tips is more painful. The chain is more of a heavy "thuddy" sort of pain. It actually feels pretty good.

Care and maintenance has not been an issue. We just keep it wiped down and away from damp. It has seen heavy usage and has not broken skin. In all honesty, it rather looks meaner than it is, although I wouldn't advice it for the "novice" as the flails can be slightly awkward sometimes (you definitely don't want to take it over bone or kidneys) and the sensation a bit intense.

I think you'll probably love it!

Respectfully,
kiya

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Originally Posted by kiya

Firstly, I wanted to ask of exactly what sort of chain the floggger was made? Is it actual round chain? or the ball-chain links? I have seen both in the scene, but really can only speak from experience with regards to the latter.

We purchased a chain flogger of the ball-chain variety almost 4 years ago and it is still in regular use. It gives a pretty hard pounding and the tips of those balls can really sting but in all honesty, a braided flogger or one with those sharp metal tips is more painful. The chain is more of a heavy "thuddy" sort of pain. It actually feels pretty good.

I think you'll probably love it!

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Thank you for your imput kiya!

The flogger we are discussing is of the round chain variety, unlike the one you have. However each link is quite small, so I am hoping it will have the effect that you have described.

By the way, Welcome to the forums!

Well, after having been through the experience I will have to agree with kiya, this stuff is definitely not for beginners.

Last night was pretty busy, as I had failed to complete my subbie task from Thursday and I had already accepted anotherone for Friday. So I had lots to get through as it was. I guess the idea of breaking in our new metal flogger gave me the motivation to go through the more psychological trials that were imposed on me at the ST dungeon.

F. made me wait for it though. In fact he made me beg for it. It was so deliciously humiliating to beg to be tormented in a way I had never experienced. He had already taken me every way possible without allowing me release and I was so hot I felt very close to spontaneous combustion. The warm-up whipping with a leather strap that I recieved after being bound face down on the bed only served to make me moan with desire and frustration. Then he left the room for a few seconds and came back from the washroom carrying a wet towel, which he used to cover my already glowing posterior. The cooling sensation vanished instantly when the first stroke of the metal flogger punched my whole body into the pillows that F had placed beneath my hips. Oh god! I bit into my shoulder and tried to suppress a scream. What a wallop did that flogger carry! I could feel my butt swelling with each stroke. I was screaming by the third one and I must have gotten a good two dozen. The wet towel was good protection agains any potential cuts, but it did not lessen the sensation one bit. By the time F. dropped the whip to take me from behind I was at thermonuclear heat levels, and the ensuing orgasm, after all the previous denial was of olympic proportions.

In conclusion: This metal flogger has to be used after thorough warm-up and, used over that wet towel, it did not leave any cuts. Bruising was limited to the few strokes that "wrapped" around my hips. I guess it takes a bit of practice to get used to the heavier swing, and F. says next time we will try it on bare skin. For those following the whips and floggers thread I would rate it a 7-8 on the pain scale. Very nice indeed. :) OUCH!

*groan / drool*
Kats bows down low to the Queen of pain, her idol, Nikka!

Wow! Nikka that was one great post.
Barton.

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*groan / drool*
Kats bows down low to the Queen of pain, her idol, Nikka!

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Queen of pain? I only wish!
Earlier that day I had stubbed my toe against the coffee table. Let me tell you I was whimpering like a three year old and had tears in my eyes. I can only take pain if it comes from F. and especially if he looks like he wants to take me later and make me his.

HaHa
Pain, my dear, as it only pertains to what we (mostly) discuss at this site....BDSM! :p

Katmandu, you sound like you want a metal whip also. :p
Barton.