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I love being an education student, there are sooooooo many times that D/s and education basics cross paths. I was reading in my book tonight, and I read a quote from a report on education. "Control and caring are not opposing terms; but the form of control is transformed by the presence of caring."
Don't you think the rest of the world would be more like 'us' if they took that statement to heart?
There's a reason that so many BDSM stories start out in the professor's office.Quote:
Originally Posted by Adamoverjules
---dr.M.
It all depends what you mean by control and what you mean by caring and who decides. There is so much controling in society that is sold as, for my/our benefit, when it is really for someone elses benefit.Quote:
Originally Posted by Adamoverjules
For whose benefit is education, for you or the state? The modern state needs an educated population to generate wealth, mainly for the elite few. 3% of the USA's population control something like 90% of the wealth. However with an education you can look down on the less fortunate and feel you are doing well.
Transfer those ideas to a D/s relationship and you could chew the fat all night. If the dominant party choose how to control and how to care then there really isn't any care at all, it's domination.
When you study, unless it's the hard sciences where you can provide proof your mentor might be wrong, you have little choice, you have to accept the wisdom and the knowledge of your mentors even if they spout a load of baloney. You want your degree, you perform and do what is necessary to get it. Then you can blow a raspberry back.
You have left me unconvinced we are better as a group than any other group in society. We enter a consesus for mutual benefit. That to me is what we all do in society, with some getting more benefits than others.
I wasn't trying to convince you that we are better as a group than others in society, I simply meant to say that wouldn't our beliefs and lifestyle be more accepted if others listened to that quote? Granted they would have to just listen to it, and not read too far into it...like some people ;)Quote:
Originally Posted by ProjectEuropa
Hmm perhaps I came across a little peeved but I wasn't. Just throwing my two penneth in the ring.Quote:
Originally Posted by Adamoverjules
The basic quote is fine but it's a bone without meat. I think the fact that the life style is not completely understood adds to the spice. What would happen to the social gatherings at fetish fairs if one could by one's accoutrements at the corner shop? Hmm When I go to the London Fetish Fair no one seems to take any notice of the black clad pervs walking down the street. Maybe we are not so misunderstood? :-)
well...I noticed you live on the other side of the pond...I've heard from close sources that things are different over there. A friend told me she came out of a store in London, and almost walked into a pony parade. The hard part was she was there with a school group for classes, and had to play dumb along with the rest of them haha. So yeah, things are different over there...try walking down the street leading someone on a leash here...you'll both be wearing cuffs in a few minutes.
Maybe that makes it all a little spicier!Quote:
Originally Posted by Adamoverjules
I'm going off at a tangent here but it is something that amused me about the differences between here and there. There was a chat on the radio (A programme called Woman's Hour) about the differences in attitudes when out shopping. One woman said she hated the way American shop assistants always tell you to 'Have a nice day." An other woman commented 'Well, I'd rather be told to "Have a nice day." by someone who doesn't mean it than be told to "Fuck off!" by someone who does mean it.'
I think, although we have the name for being polite and reserved, I don't think we are and that Americans are probably more polite and reserved in many respects.