A new princess for playtime

So, for anyone who read my other post "New sub to the lifestyle", you already know that my princess was a little aprehensive about gags. I questioned her about it and it was jsut that the ring gag I was using was hurting her tongue. >shrug< C'est la vie.
And now the update to that post:
"She loved the paddle and I made her wear a gag most of the time... though, I did leave her alone for a couple minutes all tied up and she managed to take the gag out (I haven't purchased a buckling gag yet). Anyways, the gag thing wasn't so hard set.
I guess the best part is that I made her strip and prepare the bedroom. It was a kinda spur of the moment and not something I had thought out, but giving her 3 minutes to fold all her clothes, the blankets and pull the bed to the center of the room got her all sorts of excited... this is, of course, after I had her pull her punishment card (I've made a set of 10 punishments and placed them in envelopes for her to select when it's time cash in on her infractions).
So, I tied her up and left the room for a few minutes to go prepare the ginger root... at this point you might be a little confused as to what that's for. If you know what figging is, you know where it's going (if not, here www.figging.com ). After a couple minutes of being gone, which she thought was like 10 minutes >chuckle< I came back and warmed her ass up a bit with my incense paddle and a piece of leather I had laying around. THEN I placed the root in her ass. She said it took a couple minutes, but... yeah, it was nice to hear her little whimpers when I touched it. I'm impressed though that she didn't ask me to remove it. WOW, it made her wet, though.
It took roughly an 40 minutes or so to get the paddling done. No I didn't paddle her that long, I took breaks cause I was "tired" and to help her forget what number we were on."
Anyways, she learned her lesson and I've decided to produce more rules for her to follow. Can anyone help? These are what I have so far:


1) You are not to use the words "at all" ever (she liked to use it alot, but I fixed that)
2) You are to be on time to everything (she's bound to be late for something... it impossible to be perfect)
3) Orgasm restrictions. You have to ask to cum.
4) You are to speak French for the first 20 mintues of arriving. (we both speak french... since we met in our 2nd year french class earlier this year)

So, when thinking about these rules for her, realize she's not a lifestyle sub, but I like to include the rules in r/l for two reasons: 1) it makes her think about me 2) when I mention that she broke a rule and there's someone around, the look at us funny.
I appreciate any new input on this.

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So, when thinking about these rules for her, realize she's not a lifestyle sub, but I like to include the rules in r/l for two reasons: 1) it makes her think about me 2) when I mention that she broke a rule and there's someone around, the look at us funny.
I appreciate any new input on this.

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And...what kind of input do you want? Is it ok? You have to ask her if she is willing to do it. If not, giving her a task that lasts about 3 days over the week will have her think about you more...

When she breaks a rule or doesn't do the task, such as write when she starts the task, describe what she did, how it made her feel, etc. That is how you know she's complying...no report...then there are consequences.

Too many standing rules/task make it stressful and resentment takes the place of thinking of you. Give her something she can live with but make her accountable to perform them. DOM her when she needs it...right?

Good idea. I hadn't thought of writing part of it.
No, I don't need input as to whether this is alright; every relationship is different. However, I do like to think that I am following the already set pattern in the communities. Structure is the frame that builds an empire.
What kind of tasks? They can't be that long, she's already a busy girl... and when I say busy, I mean busy. However, that is a good idea. Maybe some sort of routine everynight before she goes to bed or something. I was just interested in input on tasks and/or rules that might be interesting to implement. As I've come to realize, Doming is a busy job, but one that I'm enjoying. I was just desiring some input from others... the mind might be limitless, but my mind has many things on it
BTW, are those pics on your profile all of you, Nikita? I imagine so, but, since I'm new here...

Thanks

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Originally Posted by Primus_Pilus

What kind of tasks? I was just interested in input on tasks and/or rules that might be interesting to implement. As I've come to realize, Doming is a busy job, but one that I'm enjoying.

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You are right on that. It is a busy job. You might be able to pick up a few tips on this site on tasks by searching on the word. There are many varieties of tasks and you can tailor them to suit your style. :hubba:

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Originally Posted by Primus_Pilus

BTW, are those pics on your profile all of you, Nikita? I imagine so, but, since I'm new here...Thanks

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I have a couple of standing tasks to do for my Dom/top, such as, send morning emails, dressed as if I were in front of him, and include all sorts of information, be available for nightly chats, and, other things. :bondage:

Here's something I had already put together for another person. Perhaps you can use some of the ideas.

These tasks that can be modified for real scening. I've worded them as a dom would giving a directive to the sub. You can do whatever you want to suit your desires.

They are mostly control and humiliation. The real pleasure in this type of D/s is the sharing of feeling from the bottom to the top, how much effort they put into pleasing you. The top should feel proud of the sub if he performed as required.

The intense part comes in when the sub has not performed the task as you wanted. That is when you can go into your DOM mode, and discipline as you please.

Task One: I want that floor clean enough to eat off, because you will need to. This task will be performed in my presence. You will need, a bowl of food, your nude body and thoughts of submission. After, you will tell me all about it.

TaskTwo: Masturbation control. This one is to be performed somewhere relatively public that I will choose, a bathroom at work, a store, or a cafe. You will cum into your hand but you need to lick your hand spotless. no-no

Task Three: This one must also be done in my presence. You'll just need your nude body and some nipple clamps. Again you will cum into your hand but you need to lick it spotless. You may remove the nipple clamps once your hand has been licked clean.

Task Four: I want to see you squirm. Get one large or two ice cubes. Strip and insert them into your ass. Masturbate to orgasm and lick your cum clean from your hands.

Task Five: Insert your butt plug and get dressed to go out with me. We will find a nice cozy public restroom and get to work, this means masturbation. I will supervise and enjoy your humiliation. When we get home, you may remove the plug and tell me all about how it felt. If I am satisfied with the depth of your humiliation, you may service me.

As you might expect, you can let your sub choose the scene if you want. Having an alternate scene is necessary should it be a hard limit for her. These scenes/tasks sound simple and wussy, but let me tell you, they are intense and you control the intensity.

Mind you, I'm mostly a bottom, but, I can be a sadistic top, too. When I'm in a topping mode, I call myself Pissed off Mistress Evil

Well, you sound definately creative. I know that masturbating in public is already difficult (what if someone should hear?!) for a guy, but for a woman... that must be intense. Although, my subbie doesn't seem to be very in to her own personal fluids... everytime I spend any time licking her, and come up, she avoids kissing or any of the sort for a good while. Though, I think that might just be an embarassment issue. I would be embarassed about it, but if I were told to do it for a Mistress, I would do it. Is there a choice?


I think I'm going to use some Ice cubes on her. I just exposed her to figging, which she absolutely loved... so maybe some ice in her pussy with a good figging might be in order?


As for the rest of those tasks. They are great and I'll use them, but she's gonna need some time to get used to all of this. Maybe I'll have her do it in the living room while I watch? The real key is feeling out how much she's in to humiliation. I mean, how can one tell? I'll query her about it.

I gave her directions the other day to shave her pussy bald, but I hadn't thought of having her email me first... so I told her this morning to write me and she was all confused about it. I'll have to elaborate for her, but it took me most of the day to think about what I wanted her to write.

Nikita, mademoiselle, Je suis remercie pour ton aide! you are great, and I look forward to seeing more of your sadistic ideas ;) If you'ld like, I can keep you posted... but I'm sure you're busy. It's always nice to have someone to share ideas with

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Originally Posted by Primus_Pilus

Well, you sound definately creative. I know that masturbating in public is already difficult (what if someone should hear?!) for a guy, but for a woman... that must be intense. Although, my subbie doesn't seem to be very in to her own personal fluids... everytime I spend any time licking her, and come up, she avoids kissing or any of the sort for a good while. Though, I think that might just be an embarassment issue. I would be embarassed about it, but if I were told to do it for a Mistress, I would do it. Is there a choice?

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Yes, there is a choice, but, if it is the wrong choice, there is no playing. That is your card.

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As for the rest of those tasks. They are great and I'll use them, but she's gonna need some time to get used to all of this. Maybe I'll have her do it in the living room while I watch? The real key is feeling out how much she's in to humiliation. I mean, how can one tell? I'll query her about it.

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Humilitation test.

The first time, tell her to keep the door open when she pees. Stand near so she sees you watching her. She should feel like a hand is clutching her gut. Ask her to tell you how it feels while you gauge her appearance; is she flushed, goosebumps on her skin?

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I gave her directions the other day to shave her pussy bald, but I hadn't thought of having her email me first... so I told her this morning to write me and she was all confused about it. I'll have to elaborate for her, but it took me most of the day to think about what I wanted her to write.

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Just ask her to write when she started the task, what she felt like when she was shaving, did she play with herself, all those things. She will figure out how to write a report in her own way once she understands what you want to read.

Although writing can be the hardest part of the task, it is also the most satisfying part.

I set the bar very high when I wrote my first report and now realize it doesn't have to be an essay. I will post my first task and report. It is not a starting point, but it is the report of a complete newbie.

Why do I write the reports? That was a sticking point with me. But after several months, it hit me. He is re-living the task with me because he cannot be there. So when I write, I know that he will enjoy it, drink it in, and wank to it. And I didn't know how much of an effort the Dom puts in until the tables were turned and I experienced switching. Now THAT'S a mind fuck.

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Nikita, mademoiselle, Je suis remercie pour ton aide! you are great, and I look forward to seeing more of your sadistic ideas ;) If you'ld like, I can keep you posted... but I'm sure you're busy. It's always nice to have someone to share ideas with.

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C'&#233;tait mon plaisir. I'd like that. This is your thread on Princess and I will look forward to any journal entries you make regarding her progress.

This is embarassing, but, I am the engineer of my own humiliation. Most of the time, I go commando, by choice, unless circumstances dictate otherwise. I'm sure there are many women here that do the same.

For my first task, I was to purchase some panties, the frillier the better, and let him choose which ones I was to wear that evening. I had to wear them from the time the trick or treaters started to come until 11:00 or so. After that, I was to put my panties in my mouth and play with myself or taste my juices and cum. (I had an aversion to tasting it, too.)

Below is the my report along with his comments. My nom de guerre is Ponytail. :rolleyes:

Report for Mr. Wolff:

How I spent Halloween Night Wearing a Pair of Scratchy Panties by Ponytail


The panties were scratchy from the word 'go.' They were pretty, oh so pretty, hanging just below the curve of my buttocks. Unfortunately, they would get wrinkled once my tight jeans covered them up.

The whole time I was thinking why the fxxk was I doing this. Then I knew, the strings...

W: You wanted the jeans. A|O I know that 'why the f******* am I doing this' but it is not just the strings...

*Mr. Wolff, you didn't tell me what to wear with the panties. I couldn't go to the door wearing black panties...how am I to know what you were thinking.


Candies were waiting for the revelers by the door and the bell rang, like it was on repeat...over and over. The characters that came to the door were adorable, little angel, cat, witch, fireman, goblin, and one or two Dr. Seuss. Evey time I bent down to put a piece of candy in their tote, that lace went up the crack of my ass, like little pin pricks. Damn...why??? The strings...

W: yes the strings

* (sotto vocce) They're not strings, they're fucking rubberbands! If they were strings that could break, I'd be outta here.


Drinking beer helped divert attention from the nagging presence of the panties on my bald pussy. I would laugh at some of the reveller's rhymes and jokes, waving to the parents, our neighbors. If only they knew what I was wearing, why, and most importantly, for whom...The strings....


W:"if only they knew" strange feeling - noting (or nothing much) is going on yet - SO much is going on.

*You're not kidding...(she says sarcastically)

W:'for whom' - I said I was honored - I am ... you have fed the power in the strings believe it or not.

*(sotto vocce) Dang! I knew I shouldn't have done that! Now he's going to make me wear girdles!

Why did I wear those blasted panties. They bother me. I've thrown almost all of mine away. Then, today I bought 2 panties for ...the strings...and wore them thinking the person who holds the strings...

W: When a person is told that someone precious is wearing panties just for him, he is much - he gets a ragging mind-hard on (and not only mind lol)

*(sotto vocce) This ponytail would like to see the effects...Mr. Wolff

At the end of the candy convention, I ran to the computer for readings telling me where to drive next. It wasn't too difficult to drive, just a bump and a detour, but I made it. I tasted a warm gently briny slippery juice. It wasn't bad, not at all.

* (Actually, I lied. It tasted terrible...but, I'm a honey and peanut butter girl)

Now I know why someone would not be averse to tasting this type of beverage.* (NOT) It takes a lot of effort to collect this kind of juice but ultimately worth the effort. *Did I say that?

So the strings pulled...

W: One of the precious beverages of the world ... Of course - the more effort, the more precious - but even if it comes easy, still precious ... I hope there will be more of it - much more.

*(sotto vocce) Hopefully, it's not going into MY mouth...

As I'm writing this essay in an effort to describe the effects of the strings, I struggle with a deep, cloud-like, buffeted state of consciousness akin to being half awake and half asleep, not in need of climax or desiring one, because the whole trip was one. It has left me drained, but maybe not sated, the string still pull.

*I really wasn't high, just stressed out from the anxiety of wearing those fucking panties.

W: Drained and maybe not sated. Like a meal that is nourishing but just a little smaller that you wanted?

*Butt, I never got to see the menu!

W: And you know there are more where it came from?

*Will I get to see the menu then?

W: Great description of performer-space (for lack of better word)

What are the strings? They are invisible controls, manipulated by a clever puppeteer. He designed the game, the parameters, and the level of play, beginner, intermediate, and beyond. He challenged me, not overtly, but through suggestion, to stick my toe outside the box...while he held on to the string.

*Ouch...let go! Ouch...

Naughty and veryexplicit! But I like it. A little confusing, though, mainly because I'm not sure if "W" is short for Wolff and wether you're thinking these thoughts or he's there with you. I'm assuming these are inside thoughts cause you're writing for him.

Princess had a rough day, so I was a little hesitant about bringing up anything. She gets stressed out with all the things she's doing, but today was pretty bad. I could tell she was almost in tears. However, after a little cooing for her and some lovins, she relaxed a bit and we were able to get to tomorrow night.

I'm expecting a decent letter from her, though, she's nervous about what to write. I can't wait for her to come over tomorrow night... >sigh< though, I haven't planned out a scene yet. I'll probably work on her humiliation and se how hard of a limit there is there. Besides, she might be late and that's an auto spanking for each minute. The bad part is that she didn't set her watch to mine... so she doesn't know exactly how far off her watch is to mine. >Big Evil Grin<

Anyways, the story was great, and I look forward to posting more here about Princess. (that, btw, is the name I arbitrarily gave her. we have yet to decide on a name for her) 'Course, I look forward to seeing those cute hips of hers gyrate in the air as well, but good things cum for those who wait.

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Naughty and veryexplicit! But I like it. A little confusing, though, mainly because I'm not sure if "W" is short for Wolff and wether you're thinking these thoughts or he's there with you. I'm assuming these are inside thoughts cause you're writing for him.

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Just to clarify; the task report below is the actual report from me to him, W or Mr. Wolff. He responded by inserting his remarks in between mine. My inner dialogue was part of the report. Since it was my first task, he didn't punish me for my remarks. That has changed. :bondage:

Hi Pilus


Some ideas for you …

Writing is important. It will make her relive it (and give you delightful insights) and she should explain her feelings about it. If she did not like it she should tell you (and no punishment for that).

I see you stared some Behavior Modification. Maybe you should give her simple asigments that she can do during her busy day or part of it Like… she is not to cross her legs, or use certain words like *No* or *At All*, maybe wear particular piece of dress ore jewelry just for you. Those things should not be done every day, IMO. Of course she should take note of her infractions and report them.

Did you try choices game? *Taste yourself or stand in the corner for five minutes?*… maybe use a game of chance that will determine what kind of play it will be and how it will go on. Let her throw the dice without knowing what will happen

Is she willing to play with herself for you? If not it very worth working on… powerful means of humiliation and orgasm control,

Have her buy ordinary items herself (like ginger roots or cucumbers or clothespins or rope or locks ….) then use them… or have her use them herself. Basic bondage? Rope g string?

All the best and have fun

Wolffie

Actaully, this evening was rather eventful, if I do say so myself. no only did she shave and email me (which, while she did email me, it wasn't all that full... more coaxing I think and maybe a punishment for not elaborating) but I did manage to get her to stay in revealing positions for extend periods of time and I did manage to get her to play with herself for a bit. However, she isn't fond of doing it so I'll probably put my thumb on her about it.

We also talked about making the situation a little more official... perhaps her staying over and sleeping at the foot of my bed chained to it or soemthing of that nature. We also decided that her name for play is "slave" which is definately an improvement over princess. While I liked the previous name, it doesn't carry the same amout of weight as "slave". On top of all of this, I did manage to get her to clean my fingers after playing with her pussy for awhile. Turns out she's thrilled by not having an option, which I can help her out with. OH! Before I forget (I'm editing now), I also drug her out to the living room crawling.

I guess at this point, I just need to find an end objective and work towards that end. What kind of slave is she to be? Where can I see her going? How can I help her get there? Hrmm... might be something worth asking her and seeing her response.

Also, should I tally her infractions and count them as swats or should I tally them and subcategorize them, i.e. 5 infractions is 20 swats and 10 infractions is 30 swats or something to that effect. Plus, how delineated should punishements be from scene time? If, for instance, she is to arrive at a specific time and she doesn't, should I discipline immediately or take care o the discipline when I take care of all of it? :marvin:

>sigh< it's late (4am), she just left, I'm tired and I still have to practice some more music 'fore I sleep... I need to catch up and make sure things are all good. So if some of this doesn't make sense, it's cause I'm beat from working all day. Thanks for all the input so far. I'll cultivate some new guidlines for her.;whip

I haven't seen any updates to this thread. http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v3...smiley-054.gif
Since a few of us have invested time and effort toward your endeavor and we were wondering what, if anything, has transpired. http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v3...ileys/hmm5.gif

You did state exams were coming up, so, I guess it was training interruptus.

Well, I didn't know that you were waiting with abated breath... but, since you asked, I'll go ahead and post an update.

Yes, finals are coming up and I'm starting to stress a bit. With all the extra things in my life, it's been rough finding time to play with her. However, we have come to a comprise on her shaving her pussy... the comprise being my way >chuckle<

It seems that things are progressing rather well in our relationship. She's enjoying our playtimes as much as I and she's really gotten in to cockworship. I'm getting a gag so that we can work on stretching out her mouth and getting her used to having something in it for awhile at a time. Plus, we've decided that when she arrives, we're going to check her shave as well as her stripping down. For this last part, I'm prolly going to have to put my thumb on her like I did with her shaving, but it shouldn't take much.

I still haven't watched her pee yet. Half because I keep forgetting to tell her and half because I'm not sure is shes entirely comfortable witht aht just yet. Maybe a little longer. All I know is that we're going to get her a buttplug and she's going to wear it for an entire day as soon as she gets it.

I think that once I get some time to myself (spring break) I'm going to get a good set of rules written up for her, but lately I haven't had time to even clean my apartment, let alone commit time to typing up some rules for her. It's fine, though. I shouldn't have to place things in writing for her to remember what I told her. It's all a matter of desire. If she desires to not be punished, she'll desire to remember what I said.

Anyways, if you have some ideas or input, please, feel free! ~Primus

I need help deciding on a punishment for lying. Here's the situation:

I told her two days ago that she was to shave her pussy everyday. This morning while walking around campus with her, I happened to think about this and so I asked if she had shaved. She replied that she had, but her eyes veered off to the left and not to the right, meaning that she was creating a statement instead of searching for the correct one.

Anyways, since I knew she was lying I pressed her a bit and found that she was (of course) lying to me using the excuse that, "She didn't have time." So, I told her that I was going to consider a punishment for her and get back to her on it.

Here's my thought on it. Since a lie is spoken, I figure that spending sometime in solitude with a gag in her mouth and kneeling in a corner would be perfect. However, having spent numerous hours in the corner as a child, I know that doesn't really deter the behavior (never did for me, anyways). So, with this in mind, what might you all suggest for her?

Use your imagination ;~P

~Primus

It is a minor infraction, so, you need to discipline accordingly. So as a dom, figure out what she hates and dispense them with or without glee. http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v3...ys/confuse.gif

First thing that comes to mind is CD.

Sub in a corner can be a good punishment for her, especially if you continue with playtime while she watches you but cannot play with herself or cum.http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v3...ileys/1346.gif

I'm sure you have the spanking thing down, but, if it is something she likes, don't give it to her.

Drink from a dogbowl on the floor.

Shave you

I hate having to write reports about why I didn't do a task or why I am doing a certain task.http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v3...s/blahblah.gif

Let us know what you came up with.

First, what's CD?

I'll think of something, but I figured that I would ask and see how it's handled by others. I don't think that it's a minor infraction, however. I think it's a more serious infraction and here's why: can I trust soemone who I know will lie to me in order to avoid punishment? If I ask her a question, I should never doubt the integrity of the responder, which is what lying undermines. Granted, we have all lied, strecthed the truth or otherwise falsefied some statement with someone at sometime or another, but that's not the point. If I were to ask here about something else (I can't think of any good examples off the top of my head... mainly cause it's 12:30), then I expect the truth. Tamp out the small grassfire before it turns in to a forest inferno... know what I mean?

Anyways, I dont' think that spanking is how I'm going to handle this. That's half discipline and half for her pleasure. She hates that I spank, but likes that I spank.

Dogbowl is good, but maybe not really an effective disciplinary tool... we'll see.

~Primus

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First, what's CD?

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Cum deprivation. Not being allowed to cum for a period of time. Honesty on this and in general to the dom is paramount. You are quite correct in this.

For some reason, she would rather cockworship than have sex or an orgasm. I'm not quite sure why that is... cause I'm a guy. Any ideas.

~Primus

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For some reason, she would rather cockworship than have sex or an orgasm. I'm not quite sure why that is... cause I'm a guy. Any ideas.
~Primus

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Yes. I have some idea, but only anecdotal information.

First, there is such a thing as a cum deprivation whore, someone who likes to prolong being on the edge of an orgasm for a longer time than average, sometimes to the point that the desire to cum goes away. You should know if this is the case. If that is so, a disciplinary action, per Wolffie, is to train her to cum on your command.

Secondly, are you sure, she's not into humiliation to some degree? Cock worship falls under the humiliation category. :bondage: She may not be aware that it is a self inflicted mental humiliation.

*subwife, more explanation on cum deprivation.

Yes, she's actually really in to humiliation. I've made her crawl around on the floor holding her by the hair (cause I haven't made her a collar yet) as well as a multitude of time cock worshipping.

If you would, could you ask wolffie to forward some information on that training. I've seen some information on it, but I dont' remember where I saw it located.
thanks Nikita

~Primus

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Yes, she's actually really in to humiliation, acutally. I've made her crawl around on the floor holding her by the hair (cause I haven't made her a collar yet) as well as a multitude of time cock worshipping.

If you would, could you ask wolffie to forward some information on that training. I've seen some information on it, but I dont' remember where I saw it located.
thanks Nikita

~Primus

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I would suggest you ask him directly through PM or email. I've only experienced it at his hands. I'm sure he would be happy to share.

Nikita,
I emailed Wolffie, but I sent it through this site. Should I be expecting his response in here?

Also, she lied to me once more lastnight. I really need to take care of this before it gets severely out of hand and I have to let her go. Quite frankly, I'm kind of upset about it and have been all day. I am saddened that she doesn't understand how henious an offence this is. How can I convey such a huge message with out being mean?

Anyways, I'm blabbering.

~Primus

Why don't you tell her what you're telling us? Sit her down for a serious conversation, as in "you lie again and you're out." But don't make any threats you're not willing to carry out.

Mainly because I haven't had the opportunity yet. School isn't the place for discussing anything of this nature, and I haven't seen her outside of school yet this week. AND it's always good to have a plan of action ready before commencing the attack.

~Primus