I've been playing around with various ties on myself lately (being single) and I'm having problems with a frogtie. Although the ropes do not feel over tight (at least compared with other ties), I seem to be tieing my self too tightly as I'm either cutting off circulation or hitting nerve endings (feelings of numbness in my legs, red marks (not rope marks, probably bruising) and slight pain the day after). I am following the advice of tieing losely then cinching to tighten things up. Should I be taking betting care of rope placement when tieing rope round the upper thigh? Or am I just being too tight? Can a frogtie be made at all comfortable, or is it inherently painful?

(Before I get told off for self-bondage, I shall point out I'm not securing my wrists!)

Thanks