A Modest Proposal

[lex ludite]

In light of the utter chaos that now seems to reign supreme on the site; a huge and ever growing back log of stories, many of which are probably going to be taken down almost as soon as they are posted, computer glitches that lurk around every corner, and the overriding issue of underage stories now on the site, to name but a few, I would like to suggest to our new and currently struggling Administrator that he consider taking the site down for at least a week until he has a better command over this fractious beast. What is going on right now reminds me of someone trying to repair a race car that is out on the track running at around 200 mph and going into the third turn at Indy.

[Ruby]

Lex, that's a very witty analogy.

I had no idea the sight was in utter chaos.

As opposed to a race car, we are dealing with various components of code within an overarching environment.
It may not be necessary to take everything down at one time to perform fixes.

For example, the forum can stay up and running, while the stories section is repaired and vice versa.

However, if Tiger decides it all needs to come down for a short period of time, then I'll support that decision.

[lex ludite]

Guess you don't follow the promises that Tiger has been making and unable to keep in light of the fact that the SITE is a bit more complex than he thought it was. First he promised to start posting on a regular basis and delivered a mouse, for one day only. Do you have any idea how many postings are hung up in this mess? Try close to a hundred based on data from the past six months! At the current rate of progress, the back log should be up to two hundred by mid December. Meanwhile no one is capable of reviewing the new postings, 5 in all, due to another glitch in the programming. This one has been in existence for the better part of a week for your information. Then we have the minor issue of cleaning up the little mess involving what is now being called the "underage" stories, which for your information are only underage based on the latest witch hunt. Jinn's guidelines clearly stated that 13 was the lower limit of a character's age. Most of the authors honored that guideline. Now we and the site readers in many cases are caught in a giant mess that I'm very interested in seeing how it finally is resolved. Jinn's approach is monumentally flawed based on my knowledge and what I've read posted on the Library itself. I'd be willing to put up some serious money that by the time the dust has settled, upwards of one fourth of the Library will have disappeared, gone into the black hole of those who now have the power over the rest of us. From your fat, dumb and happy perspective that's not a problem, it's not your ox that is being gored. People like you really make me angry; it's ME ME ME, and the hell with you jack, I've got mine. Hope you enjoy what's about to happen to this little orphan in the storm, I'm not!

[Ruby]

From your fat, dumb and happy perspective that's not a problem, it's not your ox that is being gored. People like you really make me angry; it's ME ME ME, and the hell with you jack, I've got mine. Hope you enjoy what's about to happen to this little orphan in the storm, I'm not!

Feeling better? If not, then please rant some more. Rant again, then do something constructive with that anger. Because no matter what "I, I, I," think, at the end of the day, I do not run or own this site. Nor is my opinion any more valuable than yours. They are, after all, only opinions.

If you think its your right to read or write stories about minors having sex and are worried that those stories are going away, then do your homework and check the facts.

http://encyclopedia.thefreedictionar...ld+pornography

The above link provides a working definition of "child pornography" in many countries.

In some countries textual material describing sexual activities involving children is legally classified as child pornography. In other countries, most significantly the United States, it is legal; written child pornography is legally protected by the US Constitution as long as it is not judged obscene. As a result of its general legality in the United States, written child pornography is easily available on the Internet.

Yes, it's legal to write about minors having sex in the U.S. if it's not judged obscene. What is obscene?

http://encyclopedia.thefreedictionary.com/obscenity

The US courts use the Miller test to determine what is obscene.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Miller_test
see also...
http://www.bdsmlibrary.com/forums/sh...ghlight=miller

The Miller test is the United States Supreme Court's test for determining whether speech or expression can be labeled obscene, in which case it is not protected by the First Amendment to the United States Constitution and can be prohibited.

The Miller test was developed in the 1973 case Miller v. California. It has three parts:

• Whether the average person, applying contemporary community standards, would find that the work, taken as a whole, appeals to the prurient interest,

• Whether the work depicts/describes, in a patently offensive way, sexual conduct specifically defined by applicable state law,

• Whether the work, taken as a whole, lacks serious literary, artistic, political, or scientific value.

The third condition is also known as the SLAPS test. The work is considered obscene only if all three conditions are satisfied.

Based on that list, it may be in the best interest for whomever owns this site, to carefully check the stories before reposting them.

Just because we have freedom of speach, doesn't mean we can run into a theater and yell fire.

How can you help keep this website and its library going?
Are you helping fund it?
Writing stories that pass the Miller test?
Supporting legal organizations that back your rights?

If not, then please consider those or other constructive actions. If yes, then keep up the great work.

All that is necessary for the triumph of evil is that good men do nothing. Edmund Burke

[Sam'sJasmine]

I love the way you handled lex ludite's comments. I read the post and could do nothing but grumble. You came back with information, links, and concrete material to someone's pointless rant.

You go girl, my smilies won't work but you are the woman.


:woman: :woman: :woman: :woman: :woman: :woman:

Got my smilies back yahoo. good reason to edit

[Ruby]

Thank you, Jasmine. :-)

(Using the old fashioned smile.)

[lex ludite]

Guess you don't follow the promises that Tiger has been making and unable to keep in light of the fact that the SITE is a bit more complex than he thought it was. First he promised to start posting on a regular basis and delivered a mouse, for one day only. Do you have any idea how many postings are hung up in this mess? Try close to a hundred based on data from the past six months! At the current rate of progress, the back log should be up to two hundred by mid December. Meanwhile no one is capable of reviewing the new postings, 5 in all, due to another glitch in the programming. This one has been in existence for the better part of a week for your information. Then we have the minor issue of cleaning up the little mess involving what is now being called the "underage" stories, which for your information are only underage based on the latest witch hunt. Jinn's guidelines clearly stated that 13 was the lower limit of a character's age. Most of the authors honored that guideline. Now we and the site readers in many cases are caught in a giant mess that I'm very interested in seeing how it finally is resolved. Jinn's approach is monumentally flawed based on my knowledge and what I've read posted on the Library itself. I'd be willing to put up some serious money that by the time the dust has settled, upwards of one fourth of the Library will have disappeared, gone into the black hole of those who now have the power over the rest of us. From your fat, dumb and happy perspective that's not a problem, it's not your ox that is being gored. People like you really make me angry; it's ME ME ME, and the hell with you jack, I've got mine. Hope you enjoy what's about to happen to this little orphan in the storm, I'm not!

[Nikita]

At the risk of ticking you off, (I know I've said that somewhere before.) I want to point out something you didn't consider in your previous post.

The second post I won't comment on. Someone else must have been inhabiting your body while it was being written.

I would like to suggest to our new and currently struggling Administrator that he consider taking the site down for at least a week until he has a better command over this fractious beast.

Not to stick my nose into the webmaster's business, but I have a BIG issue with your suggestion. I'm not calling it stupid at all.

However, the perception that many of our readers have is that the library is on the verge of shutting down. That perception was initiated by outside forces, the anti-obscenity wave.

Everytime the site's down, readers cringe, 'Another one bites the dust.' Correspondence between writers and their fans indicate as much. (Oh. You don't have any corresponders? Sorry.)

So, logic dictates that if the site is shut down for a few days, we will have lost quite a few readers, right? Lex, you wanna lose readers?

What is going on right now reminds me of someone trying to repair a race car that is out on the track running at around 200 mph and going into the third turn at Indy.

And why do you have a problem with that?You drive race cars?

And yes, you can call me

Nik the XXXXX

[Gallardo]

I didn't think the transfer would cause so much problems. I like to take this opportunity to thank the people involved and wait patiently for my suggestion in another post.

I speculate they are reluctant to take the site down since the revenue stream lost from any downtime would be anything but modest.