Quote Originally Posted by cadence View Post
A slave may in fact "surrender all" to thier Master, however I don't believe that they give up all control.
Even the most experienced BDSM'r has limits. There is of course a negotiation process, and there will always be limits. A submissive(slave) without limits is a scary thing to me.


I am in agreement with badlyguidedlittlemiss, and I think that labeling is in fact what it is.

Not that the above post is unreasonable, I have scoured the net for the definition of slave vs. submissive and come up with basically the same stuff.
I still am confused as to what the difference really is.

For me a slave is just a term that someone prefers to use over the word submissive.
To a large extent, I agree. There can be no "defining line" where sub stops and slave begins. Everyone will place it at a different spot along the "submissive" continuum.

I think the arguement here, would be that all the negotiations, conversations, and discussions of limits of the submissive versus the needs of the dominant will have been worked out and if they agree, only then does the dominant take on the slave... and going forward the slave no longer has any say, trusting that the dominant will be 99% consistant, only pushing boundaries that new circumstances create.

Regardless, I don't think one type of submissive ranks above or below another... and unfortunately these types of posts or articles always seem to give off that impression.

I will say it would be nice if someone learned how to include the online world into the picture rather than dismiss it as diluting the meaning and blurring the lines.

You all know I totally prefer real life and use online for making acquaintances and future real life friends... but online is very real to those who prefer it, or need D/s to be totally online... I wish people who view themselves as traditional or old school or even just "real life is better" school, would stop trying to run the online school down.