haha..
yes let's stick to the 'fiction' is fiction debate, it's concrete.
Im so happy for you that you masturbated over Shaun Cassidy,
but that's 'you', I used to masturbate over Simon Le Bon of Duran Duran..
and ?
Does that mean that 'every single' my age at that time masturbates?
No it doesn't.
So who am I to sit there and make that generalisation 'just because I did' therefore everyone does,
therefore 'why not'. So just because I might have had a sexual awakening, hey I might as well write
'fiction' relating to it. Great argument right there, it justfies everything.

You know something?
If your so called 'argument' was valid and had valid points, then every mainstream publisher from Random House
to Viking would publish 'child-minor' erotica.

But Kallie, get this, they don't.. oh my God!! What a travesty of freedom of speech right there huh?

That's the reality of publishing, that's the reality of the majority view on the matter of child 'erotica' for you
and you will always be in the minority, that's a fact, whether or not some people masturbate at 13 or not, whether
people don['t a problem with 'erotica' relating to someone '13 or 3' yrs of age, whether or not people 'get intellectually' aroused by it doesn't matter.

I'd like to reply to each and 'every' one of your 'comebacks', but the fact that your being faceteous in many, I can't be bothered.Why? It gets tiresome dancing around the mulberry bush all the time when people 'pretend' to not 'comprehend'.
But I'll simplify the crime reportage and crime fiction for you further 'so you do 'understand it better'' (oh wow now I'm being faceteous).. crime reportage as in real life crime documented in newspapers say.. and crime fiction ie Patricia Cornwell, Minette Walters and the like. Is that more clarified for you now?

Great.

I like debates, but as in real life I'm not into 'running around in circles' physically or mentally especially when something as 'basic' as the sub categories of fiction is confused. The way you bang the fiction is fiction drum, then we might as well shove children's fiction together in the same category as erotica!