first off, moptop; that was awesome, thanks for posting.

secondly, thank you psynymph for posting! glad to see this topic here, it's been one of my most difficult fantasies. by far. Even inside BDSM, it's hard to suggest to people that you like this, because there's always such a huge chance that they'll reject you. And when you're in a BDSM relationship, you don't want to take that chance, because it's hard enough to establish it in the first place. Especially if you're a male sub.

But the topic of bestiality always gets me a little hot. Even though I normally don't have very gay tendencies, I get turned on a lot by the thought of a male dog taking me. I suppose it might have something to do with my submissiveness. But, I'm thinking that it has more to do with my love for anal play. The idea of doing that with another man is only exciting (for me) in the context of BDSM, whereas bestiality is is hot no matter what. The fact that I've never had a dog myself makes it much worse for me. When I was younger, my father was pretty much scared shitless of anything moving that wasn't human, so I wasn't allowed to get a dog. And now, my life is too chaotic...I want an Alaskan Malamute, but those can be expensive, and at this point in my life, I don't think I would be able to properly take care of him. It's so frustrating to want something, to almost be able to get it, but be denied because of little practicalities.

As for the question of abuse when there's a male human and a female dog...there's really a couple of things to consider. Someone said earlier that the canine vaginal tract is too small for a human penis. If this is true, then it certainly is abuse. But I would thing that this varies from dog to dog, and should be practiced with common sense. Also, someone mentioned that you can easily read a dog's body language to gauge consent, and I'd have to agree with that. Even though I've never had one for a prolonged amount of time, I've lived with friends that had dogs and some of my relatives/close friends have them as well. I do think that it's pretty easy to read their body language. So I think when combined with common sense and caution, it should be an okay fantasy to pursue.

Personally, to me it seems a little "dirty" and I don't mean this offensively in any form of the word. In fact, it goes to show the oddity of perception. I'm fine with being fucked senseless by a male dog, even sucking him off, but I find a man having sex with a female dog is dirty? It's preposterous! I don't discriminate though, and don't mind people doing it as long as it's safe for all parties involved. I also kind of hope I get over my little prejudices.

I know I've rambled on a LOT, but one last thing; as a psychology student, it's really interesting, and *very stimulating* to discover little taboos and prejudices. I swear, this posting will keep me up all night because I'll be thinking about a million different things. so thanks again, psynymph. and it was very brave of you to post, moptop, even if a lot of people didn't post back. Everyone that posted in the earlier threads, those stories were hot too

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