Well i am just getting into the lifestyle and i would not even bother trying with none of my vanilla ex-girlfriends. But a couple of years ago when i was working at Dunkin Donuts in highschool there was this older girl i worked with who i was friendly with but she always had an attitude. i think she knew i was submissive before i did because she would always yell at me or insult me. Even sometimes calling me a fagot or insulting me in front of customers or other employees. I never really understood why i liked it so much but now that i do i wish i still had her number....