Quote Originally Posted by Wolverine
O/l can be wonderful, but I find that it takes an enormous amount of trust on both sides. ...

So I was compelled to try again, and I am.
While I want to submit, I find it hard to do so, and now I'm not even sure if I can anymore.
Nothing seems tangible, if that's the correct english I'm using.

How do you do it?

This thread seemed like the right place for this pointles ramble. Didn't feel like it warranted it's own thread
Wolverine,

Your post is far from "pointless". You're completely justified to feel the way you do right now. Regardless of online or off, D/s or vanilla, it's hard to allow yourself to be vulnerable and trust a new partner so soon after being hurt. Since trust is such an essential part of being able to submit, it makes sense that doing so right now is difficult for you. My Master and I have had our ups and downs lately and I'm finding myself feeling the same way (wanting to submit but not being sure I even can anymore). Sorry I can't offer more helpful suggestions but please know you're not alone in feeling the way you do. All I've found so far is that it takes lots of discussion, time, patience, and compassion from both partners to work through the issues that make trust difficult. As they resolve, hopefully the trust and submission will feel more natural and less forced again. Take care and good luck,

eb