Chastity devices ...

[Jane SC]

Hi Pandemonium

A hobble or hobbles (not sure if they should be singular or plural) is a way of controlling and shortening the wearer's stride length. Normally they are two locked bands about her ankles joine by a short rigid steel bar, or an articulated one, or a chain. Even loosely tying her ankles together will serve the same purpose with enough slack to let her take small strides.

I've also got a set that fit above the knees and which can be worn with normal length skirts (NOT Minis!). They are along the same principle as ankle hobbles - the pair I have are joined by a rigid bar a few inches long which can make walking very dfficult.

Obviously the shorter the link beteen the bands or cuffs, the harder it is to walk and the shorter the steps I can take. Hope that explains them !

Love Jane

[vinsint]

That looks delicious.

[pandemonium]

Thanks.

The other day I was reading this story and it said something about being attached a D ring. Put D ring into google and came up with a gazillion sites. A good portion were about folders. I was looking at the folders and thinking,"But...I don't get it. Why would anyone want to be attached to a notebook?" Finally, I asked. So when I saw the word hobbles, I briefly considered putting that in google. Then I thought I would have a gazillion hits on literature and opted just to ask. Charles Dickens nightmare of sorts. Anyways, thank you very much, Red Eva and Jane.

[AndrewBlack]

I moved this after request from the high heels thread

With respect to infibulation, there are references in the literature of the the ancient Greek period to "chastity chains" being used on female slaves; there is, however, no description or illustration of how this was achieved. There are also many references stating that female slaves were infibulated, but again, no description or illustration of how this was done. There are two exhibits in the British Museum in London, which may well be an example of such a chastity chain or infibulation chain. They are labeled as "unknown, possibly horse harness ornaments". There is a diagram of the site where they were found showing that the pieces were found near the crotch positions of two skeletons, identified on the diagram as "females, probably slaves". Nothing else of horse origin was noted in this diagram.
Each exhibit consists of a small portion of what looks like poor quality chain maile. The rings are of bronze, rather larger and thinner than one would want for effective armour. Each ring is about 3/4 inch diameter and about 1/16 inch thick. They are welded shut rather untidily, some have large blobs at the point of union, some rings are off-set at the join: they are not ornaments. Each exhibit is symmetrical with about twelve rings along the centre-line. There is a row of ten rings on either side, each ring interlocking with two in the centre-line. There is a further row of eight either side of this, again each ring interlocks with two in the adjacent row. The whole thing is about six inches long and about two and a half inches wide. Roughly at the centre of the group, two of the rings are heavily corroded, and in one of the exhibits, one ring has a short gap.

It is possible to imagine that these might be infibulation or chastity chains. Each ring in the centre-line pierces both of the large lips along the whole line of the vulva, holding the two sides in close proximity. The rows either side would penetrate deep into the flesh of each of the large lips. The whole of the sensitive area of the vulva would be impossible to touch or stimulate. It is possible that some of the links would deliberately pass through the crura of the clitoris so as to give pain on arousal and thus discourage any interest in sex. Certainly, if fitted before puberty, the growing of the parts would apply tension to the rings so that any attempt to masturbate would be painful

If these are, indeed, infibulation chains covering the vulva of a female slave, the positions of the corroded and damaged links would exactly correspond to that of the urine flow.

From the owner's point of view, infibulation of the female slaves has all the advantages of the infibulation of male slaves. They are there to work and nothing else, and so any possibility of distraction is removed without impairing their health in any way.

From the slave's point of view, I just wonder what it felt like as the 48 rings were put into position and then welded shut!

I don't think, however, that the Ancient Greeks were known to utilise 6" locking stilettos on their slave-girls.

A fave pic of mine


(Andrew, I had to delete your picture as it is most definitely copyrighted which is against the CoC to post. Sorry)

[norton]

In medaevil times a lord was going away on crusades and told his wife to put on a chastity belt. She did and he tucked the key away but got to thinking what would happen to her if he were killed in battle He summoned the chief servant and told him to keep the key to his wife's chastity belt in a safe place so she could be freed if he did not return.

The lord rode away and was almost out of sight of the castle when the chief servant raced up to him and cried:"M'Lord you gave me the wrong key!"

[Kallie Thomas]

But a good place to look for information on hobbles is your basic feed/livestock supply site. Both breeding (isn't that a delicious name?) and cribbing hobbles are commonly available at such places. Many also have grazing and pawing hobbles, which can be loads of fun.

Check these sites:

http://www.applesaddlery.com/cat_pdf/92_76.pdf

http://www.countrysupply.com/subdept...19&maindept=18

http://www.nationalbridle.com/prodDe...atalog_ID=0044

http://www.chicksaddlery.com/Merchan...duct_Code=3277

Honestly, it's been my experience that the hobbles available on BDSM sites are rarely of as good quality, and are most certainly more expensive in most instances.

Have fun

Kallie

[Jane SC]

Hi All

I'd like to thank Andrew Black for re-posting his piece on infibulation on this thread. VERY interesting and very scarey too. As a subbie whose owner loves to stress just who owns my body, I have to be very careful about what I do or say, or else I'll find his 'interest' in my chastity comes surging out again, and that means a period locked in my chastity belt at the very least.

So, when I read Andrew's posting, I had to shudder as I can imagine only too well what those poor female slaves must have felt like all those centuries ago. This is specially relevant to me as, a few months ago, when my big 'sammy' mouth ran away with me and I made some foolish comment about showing off in front of other guys, I was not only locked in my chastity belt for what seemed like an inordinately long period of time, but I also came back to find I had a new screen saver installed by my owner onto my computer so that I wouldn't forget about what could happen...............

(I'll attempt to add it as an attachment to this posting)

Also stuck to my computer monitor was a PostIt note that read
"In your case, NO pretty ribbons. Locked rings instead for you, Jane. So you had better behave."

As my owner does NOT bluff about things like my chastity and my behaviour in public, since then I have kept my mouth tighly closed on the subject (except posting here with his express permission), and Andrew's posting was a salutory reminder for me to make sure I don't 'flaunt it around' while my owner is elsewhere.

Love, Jane.

[Jane SC]

Wth his permission, I am attaching another 'warning' picture that my owner recently gave me to consider.

Definitely eeeeeek! again
Love Jane

[AndrewBlack]

He runs a tight ship this Master of yours ( no less than you deserve I'm sure! ).

You may well have seen this one before but she ain't going nowhere either!

(Again, sorry I had to delete your picture as it contained part of a copyright notice.)

[Jane SC]

You are too right, Andrew; he does run a very tight ship. Just as long as I am not as tight as that, I'll be happy...............

Love, Jane.

[tehya]

This is so right up my alley. I have been enamored with the thought of wearing a chastity device for a long while now. Although just being told by my Master that I not to touch myself in any way has always worked, I think a device would further the submissive act to the tenth degree!

Here in is my dilema. I would wish to wear it 24/7, including the plugs if possible. What i am wondering is how do you deal with cleanliness, and bodily functions? I am assuming in my ignorance that the device would have to be removed daily, and even several times a day. This would diminish the affects of the device for me.

I am looking for any advice regarding these issues...

Master's tehya

[Jane SC]

Hi Tehya,

I assume you are talking about wearing a chastity belt and not something like one of the 'ideas' put forward by my owner which are illustrated earlier in this thread. My owner is VERY possessive and my chastity is something that rates as extremely important in his eyes. I have worn a chastity belt on and off for about three years now - thankfully not on all the time!! - and I am fairly used to it now, including how to be VERY careful in public so as not to give away just what lies inder my skirt - I could easily write book called "100 Things NOT To Do When Wearing A Chastity Belt".............

If I can give advice, I would recommend that, if you are buying a CB, you buy the very best you can afford. The net has a whole gamut of belts available from various suppliers (Google or Yahoo search will help find them) but you should always get one where the manufacturer needs a comprehensive list of your measurements so that you actually get a belt that fits. Unfortunately I live in UK and I see you're in the States, so I can't help much about USA suppliers, but GO FOR THE BEST specially if you intend to wear it for long periods.

You asked about wearing plugs; my belt has removable plugs back and front and the idea of wearing them all the time might seem exciting but I think you'd get pretty sore after a while (and I am speaking from experience..........) Also, as you point out, there is the matter of going to the loo and general hygene. What my owner did (still does) is tie my hands out of the way - to my collar or high up my back - when the belt comes off. And it only comes off when it is convenient for him............... Certain things he won't do and so, if I have to wipe myself or whatever, I get a hand freed but I'm observed to make sure that I don't get any pleasure from my 'moment of access', so as to speak.

If you buy a decent steel belt you can (rather messily) pee with it on, but my belt has a lockable plate over the front grill so it is NOT advisable and I'd be in trouble if I did do so. But mainly the whole thing is common sense. Unfortunately real life catches up on the basic theory of wearing a CB and it's a matter of arranging things so you don't get any chance to 'misbehave' when it is off.

If you have any other questions, please ask. As I say, I am used to wearing mine and, like you, I see it as an important aspect of my submission to my owner. Best of luck !

Love Jane.

[tehya]

Jane,

Thank you so much for your input. Especially the part about keeping plugs in all the time. Yes it does sound very appealing but as you said, for long periods of time, it probably won't be best. I'll be sure to tell my Master! *giggles* He would hate to think of me uncomfortable... (right Master?).

Anyway, i kind of figured that I would have to remove the device for showers and trips to the loo. But i have to wonder, what did they do way back in the day.

It so good to know i have a place and especially someone as kind as you to come and ask my questions. *wink*

Master's tehya

[Jane SC]

Hi Tehya,

If your master is anything like my owner, I very much doubt if your comfort comes into the equation at all. LOL Anyway, have fun and don't be too Sammy when your belt is locked on you; it will be easy for him just to walk off with the key(s) and then you are in TROUBLE !!

As for what they did in the 'good old days', there is a feeling that chastity belts weren't around at all back in the days of the Crusades, and that the scenario of the knight locking up his wife before he rode off is just a lovely but fictional idea. Certainly the Musee in Paris which used to have a display of CBs apparently admitted that it was impossible to verify any of them as actually dating back to the Middle Ages.

For one, I would NOT like to have a hunk of rapidly rusting iron locked round my loins for any length of time; at least today's belts (at least the best ones) are made to measure and don't rust, but even so wearing one (sans plugs) all the time would be an unpleasant experience. Okay if it comes off now and then, but on all the time ???? Not my idea of a party !

Anyway, Sis, have fun, and let us know how you get on if and when your Master locks one of you..................

Love, Jane.

[allalone46]

Aww, tell us all!

Personally I love them, especially the one in that picture. Mmmmm. However you couldn't wear it for long unfortunately. Nice to wear for a day at work by a poor sub, I'd guess. Nice for whom?

Red and the belt in that picture... mmmmmm. What an exciting concept

And now to tease:

the warring of the bakini bottom is something that isn't needed and taks away from everything else.

[allalone46]

hmmm ...
okay so one is blonde, not red, but you get My drift ...

And this is the way I would wwant all slaves that ware my collar

[BDSM_Tourguide]

... 75 replies and 22,000 views is probably worth a second look.

Besides, it was a pretty good discussion.

[AndrewBlack]

Just having a quick scoot through this thread and found the radio controlled belts apparently from House of Gord. I had a look there and couldn't see them, anybody know where else they can be got?

[Mobius]

I suppose one could take a shocking dog collar and modifie it to a chastity belt. The 2 shocking probes could be set up in such a way that they could deliver a zap when moisture accurs.

[redEva]

Thank you TG for reviving the thread, sorry, I don’t know where to look AndrewBlack, and you are thoroughly cruel Mobi! The idea is to keep her wet and aroused – but not to allow for completion! Not to keep poor pussy all dry!

[Dngnkeeper]

Just having a quick scoot through this thread and found the radio controlled belts apparently from House of Gord. I had a look there and couldn't see them, anybody know where else they can be got?

Andrew one is available from Neosteel. And for all things chastity related check out the fine site from Altairboy.

Chastity belts etc is a favorite of mine. Having worn one in my subby days has taught me that this seemingly primitive and barbaric looking devise is highly sadistic. For me the loss of sexual freedom and choice, at first, was a horrible experience. For the first few weeks I rebelled against it, testing its strength and my Domme's strength. But quickly I found that I was becoming more devoted to her, I listened more carefully to her needs than ever before and then reacted to them. Amazingly I found her doing the same thing with me. While I still resented, to some extent, her control of my sexuality I found the rewards far out weighed the price of lost masturbation and the occasional public humiliation. What it did for us was to cause us to focus on each other. I was reminded 24/7 by its presence just what our relationship was and my place in it. She, while not having the physical presence, was now constantly aware of the responsibility as a key holder. And with that the fact she was now more than ever responsible for our relationship and sex life. In short that small piece of metal and key brought us extremely close in our relationship, was the impetus for increased communication, honesty and trust. While at the same time enforced and displayed the roles we had chosen.

Later I have also been the key holder. This, while brining responsibility, brings with it an enormous sense of power and trust. It provides opportunities in a relationship that no other thing I have found yet.

For anyone who has an interest in adding this to their relationship it is a big step. But, as Jane reminds us, with todays modern products a very doable and rewarding adventure.

[Dngnkeeper]

I suppose one could take a shocking dog collar and modifie it to a chastity belt. The 2 shocking probes could be set up in such a way that they could deliver a zap when moisture accurs.

Mobius take a brownie point for your Sadists card for the thought and add two if you can pull it off. :goldcup: :thewave:

[AndrewBlack]

Is that how those dog collars work, two electrodes?

I don't suppose you know what kind of shock is given, voltage, waveform, duration, current..etc...? ( REALLY nerdy question I know but most things like this are very easy to make, or ask an electrical guy who's even more of a nerd to make )

How much does one cost just out of interest and has anyone apart from the guy off Jackass actually used one?

A bit off topic I know but I think it's an interesting question.

[Chuckdom19]

Regarding electric collars and chastity belts.

The nicest and most helpful people I've talked to on the 'toy' end of things is "www.stockroom.com". If they don't carry it, they'll know who does and will put you in contact with them.

SandM.com might also assist.

[spike]

most things like this are very easy to make
...
has anyone apart from the guy off Jackass actually used one?

Here might be a good place to look for some info on the subject. I found the reference in a thread at Gromet's which gives more than enough info about how this works.

Spike

[AndrewBlack]

Thanks a lot for the tip. That guys collar sounds pretty intense but raises all sorts of amazing posibilities, building it into your wireless network or being phone activated could allow ludicrous levels of control. I find the idea extremely delicious:vampbat:

[slavedriver]

try looking here they have some listed in their catalogue (both male and female electroplay devices)


http://www.erosboutique.org/

[azraelle]

I saw a photo of this once, and have seen quite recently at least one story describing its use, but have never been able to find a source for buying one:

A chain mail "bag" of sorts that is pulled tightly around the base of the penis and scrotum, and then locked. The bag is just large enough to stuff it when limp. Even partial arousal would be excruciating, as there is only so much space inside, ya know?

Has anyone else seen, or know of a source, for such a device?

[Curtis]

Not really, but have you tried searching for the "Dressing For Pleasure" website? The only two times I've seen photos of that were in magazines showing pictures taken at the DFP balls in New Jersey. They have a sponsor who makes corsets and chastity stuff, so they might make something like that, or know of someone who does. Good luck.

[socyologyst]

Any way… I still think they are hot, I think they are sexy and I’m soooo sure they are really uncomfortable no matter what anyone says lol

it saddens me that you still have not experienced the torment first hand, red. you seem so interested in chastity control. you should have been locked up by now. perhaps I could help you rectify this discrepancy