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but whether i could be quiet for numerous strokes of the cane, i literally don't know.

Well, there's only one way to find out, I guess.

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Oooh, yikes, i don't agree with that! Probably because i don't switch. Fear of retribution isn't trust. i don't trust my Dom because he knows we'll switch in the next scene and i could whip shit out of him, i trust him because i trust him, full stop. Although perhaps you meant that a bit tongue in cheek. *grins*

You idealistic thing you! But, yes, a cheek is one place to put a tongue, I suppose. And if we can't have a laugh - or anyway a smile - what's it all about.

There is a serious point, though. Trust and mistrust go together. There is an excellent piece by James Hillman somewhere on the subject. I don't feel that trust is really alive without mistrust, just as love isn't really alive without hate. And Verdi did become a millionaire.

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Eh? *confused* What about love? Crossed wires here, i think, when i said remove power, i meant MINE, not power exchange from the whole situation. You're right, unfairness wouldn't work without an imbalance of power, but the list was about my pleasures and not his.

Gottme! I was being both dull and careless. I have skipped some of the threads, so I am not as au fait with your desires as I should be. :-(
Is it all over between us? I shall try to pay better attention in future. In what sort of ways are you unfair to your partner.

I think Andromeda has had very good value for her original enquiry -- though I suspect that she has moved on long ago.

As for canes. Do you need to jump in the deep end? Why not start with a flogger? That is if you want a taste of submitting to delicious punishment.