So, your submission is about what you want, is it? Sounds like you are the dominant one in your relationship. If you have to manipulate your dominant just to get some reaction out of himm, then I think you and your dominant might need to reassess who really is dominant and who really is submissve.

Manipulation is not submission. It also has no place in any kind of relationship. I had a girlfriend once that liked to keep me wrapped around her little finger and do everything she could to get her way. She's an ex now, too. I learned not to put up with that shit.

Your dominant should not have to be placed in a position of power. He should just be the one with the power. It's really that simple. If that's not how it is, then you likely do not have as much of a d/s relationship as you might believe you do.



Originally posted by pam
For me, it does, if the Dom knows me well enough to know what pushes my buttons and I'm in tune enough with him to know what pushes his buttons, too.

Force is my turn on. It also puts him in a position of power, so we're both happy.

If I say "make me" and expect him to do A and he does B, it's a
surprise for me, but a welcome one just the same.

He can also NOT do what I expect, or want, and that in itself is cruel. But, I love it