Quote Originally Posted by Bald_J_and_F
For us it is a combination of all of these aspects (bondage, discipline, domination/obedience and humiliation), whereby pain, as we explained in another post, should be used only as punishment, in combination with sexual stimulation or as unavoidable by-product of certain kinds of humiliation, but not just for pain's sake alone.
Yours
Jean and Friede
Interesting, I know from there you two are comming from, as my last slave was the same, she enjoyed pleasuring me, and where I used pain as a means of punishment and sexual stimulation.

but on a personel note. I have never incounted slaves with no hair at tall.. which I found very erotica.