For me personally, I couldn't care less about the slogans. I'm not sure that they are necessary for bdsm participants to think about - surely we each negotiate our limits and so on from our own tolerance, desire and trust, not against a snappy 3 or 4 word phrase? And as for 'outsiders', I don't think we should be apologetic or try to sanitise what we do. It seems a little bit like the gay community trying to reassure those who disapprove by saying something like 'Don't worry, we hardly ever have anal sex, we mostly just kiss'.

Having given my own jaundiced view, maybe I can contribute something of value: I've posted this link before, but I don't know if anyone visited it. It's an interesting interview with the guy who actually coined the term 'safe, sane and consensual'.

http://www.sensuoussadie.com/intervi...ninterview.htm

One quote:

"...it wasn’t until a couple of years ago that i realized what a monster we had created. The only reason i ever tell anyone that i was the author is so i’ll have some authority when i explain what we meant by it back then — and what we didn’t mean by it. Above all, we weren’t trying to establish a ****ing credo! The idea that ‘safe sane consensual’ is used to define something like articles of faith s/m newbies are expected to absorb turns my stomach, especially when the people doing the defining are the kind who do s/m at a very tame, low level of intensity and think that’s where the boundaries should be set for everyone."